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Ziemowit 13 | 4,038
30 Jul 2020 #2,791
So, we've crossed the 600 line in Poland yesterday (615 precisely). An upward trend from now on?
pawian 171 | 12,080
30 Jul 2020 #2,792
So, we've crossed the 600 line in Poland yesterday

2,3 weeks ago PiS assured Poles the virus was under control and there was no need to fear going to the elections. It was directed especially to elderly people, traditional PiS voters. How many of them will die after catching the virus??

Thank you, PiS, Poland`s rightwing rulers.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
30 Jul 2020 #2,793
Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 15, age range 59-91, average age 74

Hospitalizations (running total) up 7 to 1694

Ventilators in use down 3 to 63

Cured (daily total) just 453, which is more than 150 less than new cases found

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 30 times more cured cases than fatalities.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
31 Jul 2020 #2,794
Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 7, age range 59-91, average age 74

Hospitalizations (running total) up 84 to 1788

Ventilators in use up 9 to 72

Cured (daily total) just 344, which is 313 less than new cases found

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 49 times more cured cases than fatalities.

Daily average fatalities for the last week: 8.7, up a bit from the last two weeks
Atch 17 | 3,234
31 Jul 2020 #2,795
657 new cases today, 615 new cases yesterday, those figures are the highest since the epidemic began and as the chart shows, it's not really related to increased testing levels. Testing levels have been about the same in terms of daily number of tests being carried out, since the beginning of June. The graph below is interesting because you can see when they've obviously discovered clusters over the last two months and upped the testing for a few days then dropped it back down. Nonetheless one can see that the new cases being confirmed are related less to increased testing and more to a continually high rate of community transmission.


  • Number of daily tests carried out in Poland since testing began.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 456
1 Aug 2020 #2,796
Lets continue to have those big wedding parties! Makes perfect sense. Duda getting advice from Trump on the virus these days? LMAO Social distancing and mask wearing when in close quarters is the only thing that works.
cms neuf - | 1,667
1 Aug 2020 #2,797
I'm really unsure about what you doom merchants want ?

More testing ? You have it already
Mask ? They are mandatory in malls, cinemas, trams etc
No weddings ? If you don't feel safe at a wedding stay at home
More ventilators ? We don't use the ones we already bought
More lockdown ? Why - do we know if the first one worked ?

Can't we continue with the current sensible restrictions and accept them for a few more months ? Any further lockdown should be old and nunhealthy people only.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
1 Aug 2020 #2,798
More lockdown ? Why - do we know if the first one worked ?

Lockdowns have failed everywhere (beyond being a way to buy a couple of weeks time to get prepared) there's no point now. The sanest strategy is to create some structure for high risk people who want to self-isolate and let everybody else get on with it.

Either we're starting the second wave now (premature but nothing else has gone according to schedule, so.....) or it's a temporary spike. If the number of hospitalizations crosses 2000 for three days within a 5 day period it's the second wave. If it does the same with 1800 then maybe a spike.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
1 Aug 2020 #2,799
Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 5, age range 55-94, average age 77

Hospitalizations (running total) up 53 to 1841

Ventilators in use up 2 to 74

Cured (daily total) just 387, which is 271 less than new cases found

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 77 times more cured cases than fatalities.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
1 Aug 2020 #2,800
Russia will be doing mass vaccinations in October with doctors and teachers being the first ones getting booted up.
I wonder if Putin himself will be getting one in October ?
msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-preparing-mass-vaccination-against-coronavirus-for-october/ar-BB17rDiy?li=BBnb7Kz
mafketis 23 | 8,543
1 Aug 2020 #2,801
Express vaccines? Color me skeptical....
mafketis 23 | 8,543
2 Aug 2020 #2,802
Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 10, age range 55-95, average age 77

Hospitalizations (running total) down 6 to 1835

Ventilators in use up 2 to 76

Cured (daily total) 387, which is 213 less than new cases found

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 33 times more cured cases than fatalities.
OP Braveheart16 18 | 200
3 Aug 2020 #2,803
Now that infections are increasing and the government is considering re-imposing self quarantine for those people who return to Poland, does anyone know what new steps the government will take to deal with the spread.....I still see people without masks and some who half heartedly wear them.....I also believe that weddings and large gatherings of people should be targeted...not sure what is being done at present concerning large groups of people meeting.....
Atch 17 | 3,234
3 Aug 2020 #2,804
does anyone know what new steps the government will take to deal with the spread

Well, a sensible option might have been to cancel the gathering two days ago to mark the anniversary of the Warsaw Uprising, instead of proceeding with an event that caused literally thousands of people to congegrate in the city centre, at a time when the government already knew that the infection rate was climbing higher than ever.

The health minister is now making lame sounds about possibly checking to see if people are wearing masks in shops - fat lot of use that will be. Maybe getting the military and police out on the trams, buses and trains to see that the supposed resrictions on numbers and social distancing are being observed might be an idea but it won't happen.

The lifting of lockdown has been hopelessly mismanaged and there is no reason to suppose that it will improve. I don't know who is advising the government but they're either completely incompetent or their advice is being ignored.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
3 Aug 2020 #2,805
The Daily Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 1, age range 76, average age 76

Hospitalizations (running total) up 6 to 1841

Ventilators in use down 2 to 74

Cured (daily total) just 172, less than a third of newly discoverd cases

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 172 times more cured cases than fatalities.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
3 Aug 2020 #2,806
The health minister is now making lame sounds about possibly checking to see if people are wearing masks

Same here in the U.S.A., Atch.
The governor of our State even sign an executive order to wear masks which is still being ignored.
Social distancing is a total joke.
So my idea is that if the government refuse to enforce restrictions then we as a Nation should do it ourselves and here is how.

Anyone seen in public without a mask snap a picture of them with your cell phone.
Send it to a centralized data base for all hospitals in the country.
When one of these disrespectful moron maskholes shows up infected and dying refuse them treatment and spend the resources on the innocent people they spread it to.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,536
3 Aug 2020 #2,807
The governor of our State even sign an executive order to wear masks which is still being ignored.

Good. It's about time the citizenry stop following these mask muzzle mandates.

When one of these disrespectful moron maskholes shows up infected and dying refuse them treatment

Not gonna happen. Hospitals MUST treat you in the USA regardless of your ability to pay, whether you have insurance or not, etc. That's why imo it's pointless for a person especially a young one to have health insurance when they'll get treated for emergencies for free anyway. The most the hospital can do is send you a bill, and if you don't pay it after a while (which the vast majority won't as who's going to pay a $10, $20k bill for a broken arm or whatever) the government will eventually.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
3 Aug 2020 #2,808
they'll get treated for emergencies for free anyway.

Ya Ya Ya Dirk, how many times have we heard this from you.
Problem is that when you want to have an elective surgery for say a shoulder replacement, back pain, hip replacement they can deny you because of your past non pay record.

THEY DO NOT have to treat you for an elective surgery and will require pay BEFORE the elective non life threatening surgery.
Besides, aren't you the one always talking about how the low life's scam the system to make the rest of us White folk pay ? :-o

We're all in this together so show some respect and wear your damn mask for the other guys sake and quit being so damn self centered.
pawian 171 | 12,080
3 Aug 2020 #2,809
if you don't pay it after a while (which the vast majority won't as who's going to pay a $10, $20k bill for broken arm

Won`t they go to court which will rule the unpaid sum will be deducted from your payroll? Or from your bank account? That is why so many immigrant Poles fear of having medical treatment in the USA.
Cargo pants 2 | 419
3 Aug 2020 #2,810
Won`t they go to court which will rule the unpaid sum will be deducted from your payroll

No,they have to first get a judgement from the court and then with that judgement they can ask another judge to sign for wage garnishment.Only the scums who have no stable job or work on cash usually do it.I have couple of judgements and most are penniless and change job so quick that it is hard to collect or work on cash and some have kids,imagine collecting 46k with 7% judgement from a woman with 3 underage kids?getting 25$ a week,if you get her,how long will it take to get?Not worth the effort,I rather sell that judgement for 2000$ and recover my attorney fee and expenses.
pawian 171 | 12,080
3 Aug 2020 #2,811
I have couple of judgements and most are penniless and change job

Aaaa, you mean tenants in your properties?

46k

in dollars or zlotys?
Cargo pants 2 | 419
3 Aug 2020 #2,812
Same goes with hospital bills.

Ofcourse $ in the Great USA.
if you have nothing you are good here so why work,freaking Dems.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,536
3 Aug 2020 #2,813
Problem is that when you want to have an elective surgery fo.... they can deny you because of your past non pay record.

Those kind of issues are mostly for seniors who get medicare anyway. I was talking about younger healthy people who typically don't experience such things and emergency situations in which case the hospital whether public or private has to treat you under law.

And yes, you can get an elective surgery without insurance if you say and do the right things. In some hospitals you'll have more luck than others. Just depends on a variety of factors.

Also, I'm not aware of different hospitals sharing patient records. That would be a huge HIPAA violation.

THEY DO NOT have to treat you for an elective surgery and will require pay BEFORE the elective non life threatening surgery.

I've never heard of a USA hospital requiring a payment that clears up front. If you don't have insurance they will ask you for payment, in which case you can just say bill me and give them an address.

Plus, in the absolute worst case you can either get a job for like 2-3 months or incorporate and get health insurance under the business.

one always talking about how the low life's scam the system to make the rest of us White folk pay ? :-o

I was talking about your statement with people sending pics of those not wearing a mask how it wouldn't work, not how to scam a hospital. However, I don't have a problem with whites ******* the system and I wish they did it more often. I view it as getting some of those tax dollars back.

Won`t they go to court which will rule the unpaid sum will be deducted from your payroll?

Not that I've ever heard of. Most healthcare providers don't report unpaid medical debt since eventually the government will pay a big chunk of it. Even if they do, medical debt is given the lowest priority o

They theoretically can go to state court and get a judgment against you. Even after they've received that judgment though you can still get out out of paying quite easily.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
3 Aug 2020 #2,814
Baloney Dirk, they will garnish your bank account if all other fails.
And yes it has happened to my friends.
Cargo pants 2 | 419
3 Aug 2020 #2,815
Bank accounts,wages(depending on your liability like kids etc because the Govt dont want to be paying for them) and inheritance(I once garnished inheritance) or put a lien on your property which is on your personal name.One can get around it by establishing a estate though:)but that dont imply to bank loans until some stupid banks dont ask for personal guarantee(now most do).Ha Ha I cant even count how many times I heard judges lecture for bounced check that court is not a collection agency,but he still helped to get me my moola.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
4 Aug 2020 #2,816
I know the media is trying to drive people into a panic and semi-permanent lockdowns, but before freaking out about the number of new cases in Poland, consider Italy where there are probably 6 times as many cases than officially recorded

businessinsider.com/italy-survey-finds-covid-far-more-widespread-than-official-numbers-2020-8?IR=T
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
4 Aug 2020 #2,817
the media is trying to drive people into a panic and semi-permanent lockdowns,

Pay attention my friend as that is the only thing that seems to be working to eradicate it ie: How New Zeeland got down to a 0% rate.

consider Italy where there are probably 6 times as many cases than officially recorded

As the U.S. maf.
The U.S. was very aware that everyone had been exposed to it because of their neglect so they dragged their feet officially testing people knowing that the cases out there would be astronomical, which now has been confirmed, as since the mass official testing started thousands of cases per day are being reported.

Go back in this thread where I posted this to be true months ago.
Trump was hoping for herd immunity and flat out blew the call.
He now is blowing it again by not enforcing people to social distance or wear a masks.
He is even opening up the schools before the vaccine comes out in the next few weeks.
Now there are false positive tests coming back so we as citizens are left to "every man for himself" as no one knows what the hell is going on.

Add that to the rude self centered mannerless Americans and it just compounds the mess.
My nightmare is that Trumps magic vaccine will give us side effects that will be worse then the virus without creating an immunity to the virus.........just like the b.s. flu shots that are ineffective. (what's really in them, Bill Gates ?)

You in Poland are very fortunate to have such a low rate as we have more cases and deaths in ONE little county in Michigan as you do in all of the country of Poland.

We have made it this far so a little more patience until the magic vaccine is available, please.
Atch 17 | 3,234
4 Aug 2020 #2,818
the media

If people just read sensationalist headlines, I suppose they might panic, but you can simply use media sources to read what the epidemiologists have to say and draw sensible, rational conclusions.

the number of new cases in Poland,

And just like Italy, there are probably many more than officially recorded.

New cases today - 680.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
4 Aug 2020 #2,819
Poland is blessed.

60,000 new a day testing in the U.S.A.
4,800,000 confirmed cases
158,000 deaths
2,335,000 recovered
mafketis 23 | 8,543
4 Aug 2020 #2,820
The Daily Numbers...

Fatalities (daily total) 6, age range 60-91, average age 81

Hospitalizations (running total) up 18 to 1859

Ventilators in use down 9 to 65

Cured (daily total) just 175, about a quarter the number of newly found cases

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 29 times more cured cases than fatalities.


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