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pawian 176 | 14,299
17 Jul 2020 #2,671
Today we went to the simming pool. There were 3 people in water initially, later only us. The receptionist checked our temp. One curious fact - people who don`t go into the water can`t stay on the premises - they have to leave. Silly regulation coz it means that many grandparents won`t come with kids.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,279
17 Jul 2020 #2,672
people who don`t go into the water can`t stay on the premises

Maybe water kills the virus?
pawian 176 | 14,299
17 Jul 2020 #2,673
Don`t know. But that emptiness looked strange, knowing that local kids have free 2 -hour pass every day.
Atch 17 | 3,427
17 Jul 2020 #2,674
people who don`t go into the water can`t stay on the premises

It's possibly to keep the number of people down and to avoid having crowds hanging around and 'gathering'.
pawian 176 | 14,299
17 Jul 2020 #2,675
Wow, you must be right, so simple but I didn`t think of it.
mafketis 24 | 9,372
18 Jul 2020 #2,676
Numbers..

Fatalities (daily total) 6, average age 77

Hospitalizations (running total) down 53 to 1551

Ventilators in use (new number) down 5 to 66

Cured (daily total) 419, just 80 more than new cases (and 4th day of more cured than newly found cases in this new streak)

Ratio of cured cases to fatalities: There were 69 times as many cases cured than fatalities.
Poloniusz 4 | 603
18 Jul 2020 #2,677
Are the British doing this...

British ambassador wears defiant rainbow face mask in Poland, where a third of the country has been declared 'LGBT-free'



...to ultimately undermine the internal moral, social, and immigration policies of the democratically elected government in Poland?



Note too that even routinely anti-Poland Amnesty International has posed the following question to erode public sentiment and challenge government policies against face coverings in public for religious reasons:

Is a face mask used to fight COVID-19 really that different from a niqab?

Link to Headline: amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/05/face-masks-and-niqabs/
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
18 Jul 2020 #2,678
He's probably doing it because he likes the colors and to make a statement about what British values are - he is an ambassador.

Would a few cm of colored cloth really undermine democracy?

Why are you so upset by this ? Doesn't make your life as a pathetic nternet troll any better or worse so why does it bother you ?
mafketis 24 | 9,372
18 Jul 2020 #2,679
Poland, where a third of the country has been declared 'LGBT-free'

Or.... where a third of the country embarrassed hillbillies....

really that different from a niqab?

Dumb... there are two obvious differences

face masks are about preserving civil order and niqabs are about replacing civic order with theocratic order

a person wearing a face mask has no problem unmasking if asked by a police officer or border control official... niqab wearers routinely refuse
pawian 176 | 14,299
18 Jul 2020 #2,680
Why are you so upset by this ?

Well, our old friend ShitonyaBrits is still suspicious of British intentions. Here and everywhere.
Ironside 50 | 10,939
18 Jul 2020 #2,681
British ambassador wears defiant rainbow face mask in Poland,

I think that leftie moron defeat a purpose of an ambassador.
pawian 176 | 14,299
18 Jul 2020 #2,682
I am afraid you are not aware of a role of an ambassador:
An ambassador is an official envoy, especially a high-ranking diplomat who represents a state

By wearing a rainbow mask, he shows what values are currently a norm in the UK. Simple.
Ironside 50 | 10,939
18 Jul 2020 #2,683
I am afraid you are not aware of a role of an ambassador:

hmm I talk from the point of view of a citizen of a country. A one that doesn't appreciate an outside foreign influence or interference into internal Polish affairs.

---- You are talking from the point of view of an alien or a plebe! As such you might see role of an ambassador as that that had been played by Repin.
pawian 176 | 14,299
18 Jul 2020 #2,684
hmm I talk from the point of view of a citizen of a country.

That`s wrong coz we are discussing the ambassador`s point of view.

A one that doesn't appreciate an outside foreign influence or interference into internal Polish affairs.

and isn`t forbidden to reveal what values are a norm in the UK which he represents. Simple.

alien or a plebe! by Repin.

oops, you must be tired a little. hahaha
Poloniusz 4 | 603
18 Jul 2020 #2,685
one that doesn't appreciate an outside foreign influence or interference into internal Polish affairs.

Agreed. This British "ambassador" is sending a clear signal to Poland that gay politics is not only a deeply cherished British value but that it will certainly be upfront and on the table when negotiating any matter between Poland and Britain. The UK will seek heavy concessions. They always do. For example, if a British pharmaceutical company develops a COVID-19 vaccine then the British government will offer to give it to Poland with a miserly discount or allow it to be manufactured in Poland with a hefty licensing fee. But before all this can happen Britain will insist that Poland mirrors British degeneracy and put gay politics high above traditional Polish family values. Britain's entire existence is one of interference in other countries. Sure the British repeatedly abandoned Poland with WWII and the Cold War being the most recent salient examples. Don't forget they have been seething with vengeance against Poland since Kościuszko played a pivotal role in their defeat in the American Revolutionary War. And if the British are willing to try to undermine a superpower like the United States (as far back as the Revolutionary War and as recently as with the Steele dossier to interfere in an American presidential election) then they will arrogantly and foolishly think nothing of trying to get Poland to genuflect before Britain's globohomo agenda.
johnny reb 28 | 5,306
18 Jul 2020 #2,686
if a British pharmaceutical company develops a COVID-19 vaccine

My understanding is there is an agreement that whoever develops the vaccine will offer it to the world for non profit.
Poloniusz 4 | 603
19 Jul 2020 #2,687
No, that's just a PR push in a world where there is great public skepticism and reluctance to take any vaccine.

All research, development, manufacturing and distribution comes at a cost and no business can stay in business with feel-good messaging alone.

Vaccine-makers' 'no profit' pledge stirs doubts

Link to Headline: politico.com/news/2020/07/13/vaccine-makers-profit-congress-360135

So either companies are going to charge the public directly for any vaccine or governments are going to buy any vaccine from the companies with money raised either through borrowing or taxation which gets passed on to the public one way or another.
Joker 2 | 1,770
19 Jul 2020 #2,688
Britain will insist that Poland mirrors British degeneracy and put gay politics hig

Poland clearly doesn't want this gay invasion from the UK as proven by the recent election. This British ambassador should have been shown the door and told to stop meddling in Polish politics. Just because the UK has been destroyed by PCness doesnt mean it has to spread like locusts to Poland.

I know many Poles who are sick and tired of all these expat Brits moving to Poland and complaining about everything. Go back home limeys!!
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
19 Jul 2020 #2,689
If it bothers you so much then why not wait for the Russian vaccine ? The rest of the world can use whatever vaccines are available and then get back to work doing something more useful than internet trolling.
Joker 2 | 1,770
19 Jul 2020 #2,690
Typical libtard! when someone disagrees with you, its called trolling! LOL

The citizens of Poland have just voted against these perverts and It not upon the limeys to make political decisions in Poland. Go back to England if you don't like the results of the election.
mafketis 24 | 9,372
19 Jul 2020 #2,691
Numbers..

Fatalities (daily total) 6, age range 55-91, average age 76

Hospitalizations (running total) up 9 to 1560

Ventilators in use (new number) up 1 to 67

Cured (daily total) 368, just 10 more than new cases (and 5th day of more cured than newly found cases in this new streak)

Ratio of cured cases to fatalities: There were 61 times as many cases cured than fatalities.

When you cut through the media hysteria.... slowing winding down....
johnny reb 28 | 5,306
19 Jul 2020 #2,692
What is the web link that you copy these statistic off from and post here day in and day out ?
mafketis 24 | 9,372
19 Jul 2020 #2,693
the raw numbers come from daily updates at:

medonet.pl

and

politykazdrowotna.com
johnny reb 28 | 5,306
19 Jul 2020 #2,694
Thank you for converting those Polish sites into English for us.
Another question for you, Has or Will Poland make it mandatory to get booted up with a new vaccine, that is experimental at its best, that could have unknown side effects down the road in a few years ?
mafketis 24 | 9,372
19 Jul 2020 #2,695
Has or Will Poland make it mandatory to get booted up with a new vaccine

That's all very theoretical since no vaccine is on realistically on the horizon (and nothing any politician has said can be relied on until there is a vaccine). Personally I'd be skeptical of any vaccine form China but also any vaccine created in a hurry...

When people look at the numbers (as opposed to the media hysteria) it's just not that scary anymore...

Oxford epidemiologists discuss things:

youtube.com/watch?v=Z3plSbCbkSA

written summary/high points

unherd.com/thepost/oxford-epidemiologists-suppression-strategy-is-not-viable/
johnny reb 28 | 5,306
19 Jul 2020 #2,696
That's all very theoretical since no vaccine is on realistically on the horizon

Several experimental vaccines are being tested on people here in the U.S. who have volunteered to receive them.
So theoretically, in your opinion, how do you think Poland would re act to a mandatory vaccine even if Poland created it.

When people look at the numbers it's just not that scary anymore...

That would depend on which country's numbers you are basing your opinion on.
Here in Florida or Texas people may disagree with you.
mafketis 24 | 9,372
19 Jul 2020 #2,697
Here in Florida or Texas people may disagree with you.

It's my understanding that while numbers of cases have increased there has not been a significant increase in hospitalizations (a better metric to follow and why I always publicize it here - if it starts increasing (past 2000) then things might be getting worse...

twitter.com/AlexBerenson

Poland doesn't have so many people that get worked up about vaccines one way or another, it's just not that big an issue (and the tuberculosis vaccine might be partially responsible for Poland's low numbers...)
pawian 176 | 14,299
19 Jul 2020 #2,698
The UK will seek heavy concessions.

Of course. I hope they will.

since Kościuszko played a pivotal role in their defeat i

If Kosciuszko lived today, he would opt for LGBT, of course. He was very sensitive about human rights.

The citizens of Poland have just voted against these perverts

The 2 % margin shows the victory of full rights to LGBT is very near. The fight goes on!!!

hahaha
OP Braveheart16 18 | 253
20 Jul 2020 #2,699
Poloniusz - Britain will insist that Poland mirrors British degeneracy and put gay politics high above traditional Polish family values...

I don't think that any country would insist that LGBT rights should be put 'high above traditional Polish family values', just that they are recognised and their rights treated equally and not treated like second class citizens......just think maybe you have friends who could be gay but haven't declared their position for fear of idiots with pea brains believing they may catch some sort of horrendous disease....I am sure there are lots of LGBT people who are afraid of coming out because of the narrow minded and simplistic ideas of a few....the same people who throw stones at cars which have come from Silesia.....
kondzior 12 | 1,200
20 Jul 2020 #2,700
The 2 % margin shows the victory of full rights to LGBT is very near.

:-D
It's like with that old Radio Yerevan joke about handing out cars for free in the red square.


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