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Coronavirus in Poland

mafketis 24 | 9,352
9 Apr 2020 #1,351
If it was so simple then why is every hospital on earth short of masks ?

There's a difference between a simple mask meant to prevent other people from being infected by you (and which can be reused) and what hospitals need which is meant to protect the wearer and which is single use.... The first can be very basic, the second not so much....

I'm seeing lots of masks already outside, probably over 66 per cent of the people I see from my window are wearing masks....
johnny reb 28 | 5,255
9 Apr 2020 #1,352
Sounds like a good home business to get into right now during quarantine.
Get off the damn computer and do something constructive.
Make them and give them away for a small donation of 12z each.
Joker 2 | 1,717
9 Apr 2020 #1,353
Trump is threatening to hold back our funding for the W.H.O. They dont deserve another dime from us for helping the Chinks cover up the virus. They are to blame for helping it spread it around the world and caused all these deaths.

Trump Says at Briefing US Putting Hold on Money to WHO, Then Hedges: We're 'Looking' at Ending Funding

What a corrupt organization. They are just as bad as those crooks that run the Olympics!
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
10 Apr 2020 #1,354
HEalth Minister said it just has to be a face covering, Mask not required. Scarf will work. So why not immediate then?
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
10 Apr 2020 #1,355
Because it needs a proper law and people need a chance to prepare for that. Plus all the reasons above

I don't know if they passed the law yet ?

Lockdown extremism is becoming tiresome for most of the population - they are already complaining about the effects of the pooorky thought out shopping rules. My wife went to Biedronka today at 4an (at least that's where she said she was going )
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
10 Apr 2020 #1,356
More and more people out and about as the weather gets nicer. I don't see the government being able to maintain control beyond the end of the month. Already young people talking about running out of savings by the end of the month.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
10 Apr 2020 #1,357
Yes precisely - the crunch time is end of April early May when businesses will have no cash to pay people.

Testing is increasing but not nearly enough to take advantage of the lockdown.
Atch 17 | 3,415
10 Apr 2020 #1,358
I imagine the reason for the masks is so that the restrictions can be lifted to some extent at the end of April. It'll be a compromise. Shops and businesses will be allowed to reopen but parks etc will probably remain closed, no concerts or big gatherings but what about restaurants........obviously people can't eat while wearing masks! Maybe removing your mask in a restaurant will be allowed but there will be restrictions on number of tables that can be occupied and distances will have to be maintained between customers.
Roibeard79 2 | 42
10 Apr 2020 #1,359
i think for years to come people wearing masks will be so common now even when we're back to normality. Believe it was similar in countries that were most effected by SARS breakout few years back.

I know I feel more comfortable with one now, when I pop out to shops etc
mafketis 24 | 9,352
10 Apr 2020 #1,360
I imagine the reason for the masks is so that the restrictions can be lifted to some extent at the end of April

I'm not sure how education is supposed to work, Polish classrooms tend to be crowded and participating wearing a mask.... don't. think. so.

Another idea is that the numbers outside a few places (esp Italy and Spain in Europe) haven't been that drastic and so some measures are put in place to make it seem like they're needed but there won't be any muscle behind them...
Spike31 2 | 2,099
10 Apr 2020 #1,361
Andrzej Adamiak, a leader of a Polish rock group Rezerwat has died of appendicitis. He had abdominal pain but didn't want to visit a doctor because "social distancing" and "epidemic".

In Silesia a truck driver has died because of heart attack. No one has helped him because "coronavirus" "social distancing"

Another victims of a coronavirus hysteria. How many people has died so far of heart attacks and circulatory diseases because health service is overwhelmed by dealing with chinese flu? Maybe should put a counter for them because it doesn't really count if you die for any other reason than "coronavirus"

There's no cure for fools.
Joker 2 | 1,717
10 Apr 2020 #1,362
Another victims of a coronavirus hysteria

I imagine the odds would be very low for someone giving a chink mouth to mouth resuscitation these days.

I know a Polish guy who caught the ChinaVirus, he`s ok now, but said it was the worst fever he ever had and thought he was going to suffocate and die.

Poles around Chicago aren't obeying the social distancing rules, they scoff and think its no big deal. Typical polock mentality, he's hanging out at an equestrian club with 15 other Poles riding horses and having a good old time..Until these idiots wind up getting sick!
Spike31 2 | 2,099
10 Apr 2020 #1,363
Poles around Chicago aren't obeying the social distancing rules, they scoff and think its no big deal.

That's exactly what Londoners do. We didn't put our lives on stop because there's a mass media pandemia with mortality rate of 2%-4% among 70+
Joker 2 | 1,717
10 Apr 2020 #1,364
That's exactly what Londoners do

Same with the dumb college kids on spring break in Florida. They feel embolden because they are young and dont think about returning home and getting their grandparents sick and watching them die either.

There was a lady in Ohio that make her son sleep in a tent in the backyard after he returned from the

I still blame the Chinks for everything and lying about it....
johnny reb 28 | 5,255
10 Apr 2020 #1,365
I still haven't decided where to go for Easter............... The Living Room or The Bedroom
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
10 Apr 2020 #1,366
where to go for Easter

I'm going to the forest to hone my bug out skills, oh and to give the wife a break from me.
Cargo pants 2 | 831
10 Apr 2020 #1,367
This is 2020
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
10 Apr 2020 #1,368
He he - camouflage required as that is also banned by some senseless law. Went there myself for a cycle ride today though
Joker 2 | 1,717
10 Apr 2020 #1,369
oh and to give the wife a break from me.

I need to escape as well....... Maybe, Ill go buy a bottle of spirytus rektyfikowany to make some homemade hand sanitizer, and keep a little extra for tonight:)
johnny reb 28 | 5,255
10 Apr 2020 #1,370
I need to escape as well.......

I am taking a cruse up along Lake Michigan and taking some pictures of the huge beautiful ice chunks pushed up on the beaches from the strong winds.

Nine weeks now and our governments still has us in chaos and fear.
New York has a different measure: Any patient who has had a positive coronavirus test and then later dies whether at home or in a hospital, weather from a heart attack or natural causes, is being counted as a coronavirus death, said Dr. Oxiris Barbot, the commissioner of the city's Department of Health.

That makes the death rates from the virus much much higher then they actually are/were.
Excellent lie/ploy by New York Governor Cuomo to receive and hoard precious medical equipment and supplies for his State of New York small hats.

Now, the project deaths have dropped 75% of what they were first projected.
Things like this are starting to make the honest citizens mistrust our government even more then we already do.
My personal guess is that more people then not have contracted this virus with most not even knowing they had it.
WHY are the one drop blood tests (to see if you have had it) NOT being given to EVERYONE with a job, that are now immune to the virus, and given an o.k. passport to go back to work ????? WHY ?

And one of obama's cohorts wants to keep the quarantine on for another 18 months to destroy America !
Thank God we have Trump at the helm.
johnny reb 28 | 5,255
10 Apr 2020 #1,371
Actually it is the sought after ventilators that have caused so many of the corona virus deaths.
Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators.
Ventilators push oxygen into patients whose lungs are failing.
Using the machines involves sedating a patient and pushing a tube down your throat.
Deaths in such sick patients are common, no matter the reason they need the breathing help.
Generally speaking, 40% to 50% of patients with severe respiratory distress die while on ventilators.
But 80% or more of coronavirus patients placed on the machines in New York City have died when put on a ventilator.
Higher than normal death rates also have been reported elsewhere in the U.S.
Similar reports have emerged from China and the United Kingdom.
One U.K. report put the figure at 66%.
A study in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the disease first emerged, said 86% died.
I would prefer to take the drug Hydroxychloroquine that costs $1 dollar and take my chances.
If this virus is not intentional to collect world wide biometrical data on EVERYONE, for control, I will happily say I was wrong.
Weimarer 8 | 415
10 Apr 2020 #1,372
@johnny reb

How you explain the fact that a country like Germany with such an oversized healthsystem has such low mortality on COVID-19, while it skyrockets evrywhere else?

That said, you are right. Hydroxychloroquine is the best option we have. And btw its not 1$. Bayer said it will give it away for free.

As for side effects, we know Hydroxychloroquine since almost 70 years. Its hard stuff but still better than be on a breathing machine
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
10 Apr 2020 #1,373
Anybody else see the commemoration ion of Smolensk today ? Could easily have been postponed. No social distancing. Just shows the total contempt the PiS old guard have for the population. To be fair the younger guys have generally followed the rules in front of the camera
mafketis 24 | 9,352
10 Apr 2020 #1,374
the total contempt the PiS old guard have for the populatio

They're PRL.... they jsut use a different set of slogans to justify their corruption...
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
10 Apr 2020 #1,375
Absolutely - they looked like Brezhnev and the politburo
Spike31 2 | 2,099
11 Apr 2020 #1,376
I'm not the biggest fan of Bill Clinton but he said one smart thing during his presidency: "The economy, stupid!"

Those countries who wake up first from this chinese flu nonsense will benefit greatly in the new economic order. The rest will become more or less a subservient economies
Weimarer 8 | 415
11 Apr 2020 #1,377

Economy is nothing to biology.

USA has lost 2000 people on COVID 19 in just one day and its in its initial stage. Doctors and nurses die and with a collapsed healthcare system you also have no economy.

Simple fact, if you dont stop the pandemic, there simply is no economy.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
11 Apr 2020 #1,378
Maybe now USA will stop looking at healthcare as a business and more as a necessity. This has always been the problem. Starting with Universities who charge so much for physicians to get their education, to insurance companies, to pharma, and medical supply companies. This is one area where Europe has the USA beat. Europe see's healthcare as a critical need for society, USA treats it like a business.

While I dont like giving Germany much credit for things other than cars, they clearly know how to manage healthcare. So few dying with so many infected. Really a model for the rest of the world.
Spike31 2 | 2,099
11 Apr 2020 #1,379
So few dying with so many infected. Really a model for the rest of the world

Not so much of a healhcare system efficiency as of methodology of counting. They're not counting old people who died because of age related organ failures and happened to have chinese flu antibodies as a victims of coronavirus like they did in Italy or Spain.
Atch 17 | 3,415
11 Apr 2020 #1,380
dont think about returning home and getting their grandparents sick and watching them die

Exactly. Apart from the practicalities of the health services of various countries being overwhelmed, what kind of a society would be so lacking in human compassion and decency that they would say 'oh it's only killing old people, they don't matter'.

So few dying with so many infected. Really a model for the rest of the world.

The percentage of deaths today 11 April, extrapolated from the official stats regarding confirmed cases and deaths is:

Germany 2.5%
Poland 3%
USA 3.7%

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