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Coronavirus in Poland


PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
8 Apr 2020 #1,321
I was holding out hope because I have a business meeting, but I cancelled it. Now I am thinking July looks best. Give everyone time to calm down. Good luck on rent if they extend quarantine. Come May, there will be a whole lot of companies that cant make it back. This ZUS non payment plan for 90 days for business owners requires the payments be made up later, so its not really a savings, just a delayed payment.
Cargo pants 2 | 476
8 Apr 2020 #1,322
Wuhan was opened after 76 days of lock down,I wonder how long will it be here.I also cancelled a closing there and will not for another year or so.I guess the guys into stocks will make money.

They should use teachers to help the medical staff,in case of shortage of workers.
Atch 17 | 3,224
8 Apr 2020 #1,323
They should use teachers to help the medical staff

Teachers who are not engaged in any structured online teaching with their pupils, or any other public servants who are without something useful to do, could perhaps be redeployed in some way, but not helping medical staff as they have no appropriate training and would be not only a hindrance but an actual danger.

Even some of the actual medical staff are not adequately trained, for example in the use of PPE. One doctor commented that gowns had become contaminated because doctors had not been trained in how to remove them correctly. Adding thousands of untrained people into the mix is a recipe for mayhem and disaster.
Cargo pants 2 | 476
8 Apr 2020 #1,324
but not helping medical staff

Well,they can by cleaning,moping,cooking,getting the medical staff laundry done.There are plenty of ways they can be useful in this crazy time,rather sitting on there computers.
Atch 17 | 3,224
8 Apr 2020 #1,325
Well,they can by cleaning,moping,cooking

Is there a shortage of cleaners and cooks in hospitals at the moment?? Anyway, again, not trained for the job. Hospital cleaning during an epidemic is best left to people who know what they're doing, and commercial catering is not the same as domestic cooking.

Incidentally, what are you doing yourself to help out during this crisis? Lots of volunteering going on in Ireland - what about Poland?
Cargo pants 2 | 476
8 Apr 2020 #1,326
what are you doing yourself to help out during this crisis?

I am sending out emails and texts to everyone I know to boost there morale.Yesterday donated 50 pln to a guy on Marzalkowska beating sticks on a crate(Busking),but he was not a English teacher.

Honestly I would do something if they ever needed me,in a hospital or a morgue.
Atch 17 | 3,224
8 Apr 2020 #1,327
I am sending out emails and texts to everyone I know to boost there morale.

That's good. Now what else can you think of?

or a morgue.

Don't worry, you'll end up there one day for sure :-D
Cargo pants 2 | 476
8 Apr 2020 #1,328
Hell is full ,no place for me there not to mention I go directly to graveyard.I am too cheap to pay for stay there.May be a funeral home in a cozy casket:))

Now what else can you think of?

I can supervise the English teachers cleaning the streets:)Would you like to participate?
johnny reb 23 | 4,519
8 Apr 2020 #1,329
because it was still possible for Chinese to enter the USA if they took a stop in a different country first.

Most of the virus that came into the U.S.A. came from Europe.

If they knew and sold, and the public didn't know, they are guilty of insder trading!

Do ya think !
Of course they are guilty
We are back to ......follow the money.
This intentional virus was well planned and orchestrate to establish a New World Order.
EU countries unilaterally shut borders and hoarded vital medical gear, leaving people stranded far from home, grocery stores struggling to stock shelves and hospitals desperate to save critically ill patients.

When Italy and Spain, reeling from some of the world's most deadly outbreaks, urged their richer and healthier Northern neighbors to help, Dutch politicians brushed off the appeals as new signs of southerners' mismanagement.

Last week, the EU's Court of Justice ruled that Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic broke EU law by refusing to relocate refugees during the migrant crisis in 2015. The three nations offered no apologies.

townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2020/04/07/kissingers-call-for-a-new-world-order-n2566446

What a better way to speed up the process and force countries to comply.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,871
8 Apr 2020 #1,330
Germany (Saxony) Are going to do 200 corona tests a day for lower Silesia all due to close ties and links, that's nice of Germany
Crow 139 | 8,609
8 Apr 2020 #1,331
Corona promote hijab.

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Did you people note how world and Europe responded on Corona virus? It responded with hijab. I mean, what is served to us are half-masks that cover half of the face. In the middle age during epidemic plagues or something, people used to use masks that covered entire face. Its in European tradition. But respond on Corona of our time is hijab.
Crow 139 | 8,609
8 Apr 2020 #1,333
No, I am Serbian and we Serbs are informed. Only good can come from Serbs to Poles. Warn the rest of your contacts what says Sarmatian connection. Entire face must be covered. Its proper protection. Half-face coverage is hijab and its not even medically valid.

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mafketis 23 | 8,404
8 Apr 2020 #1,334
we Serbs are informed

How is turning your country into a Chinese vassal state "informed"?
Crow 139 | 8,609
8 Apr 2020 #1,335
This is how is equipped Corona doctor in Serbia. Proper approach, entire face covered >

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Regular approach in Italy. Half-mask. Hijab >

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Hijab isn`t protection from COVID-19.

How is turning your country into a Chinese vassal state "informed"?

Ridiculous. We Serbs are open for cooperation with partners from all meridians but we maintain our way of life. Why would we refuse Chines help when even USA accepts. When China was in need we sent help to them. We sending help to all countries in the region. We helping to African countries. We help to all who are in need and when we are in situation to help.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,590
9 Apr 2020 #1,336
Some good news, an interesting list:

Coronavirus: European Solidarity in action

ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/health/coronavirus-response/coronavirus-european-solidarity-action_en

Between others:

"The Polish Centre for International Aid is sending a dedicated team of 15 Polish doctors and paramedics, certified by the WHO, to a field hospital in Brescia, Lombardy, one of the most affected areas in Italy.

Polish LOT airlines has helped repatriating citizens from 18 EU countries.

Poland offered citizens of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania ferries and dedicated trains to ensure their safe journey home. Poland also organised 18 convoys of over 800 vehicles, escorted by the Polish Police, to help more than 2.000 citizens of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to return home safely."

PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
9 Apr 2020 #1,337
Face masks to be required in public. BUT NOT UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY!!! Who is making these decisions? It is too hard to say they are required tomorrow or we haven't had enough Poles die yet to meet out goals? WOW
cms neuf - | 1,589
9 Apr 2020 #1,338
The shops will be shut for 3 days. Where are people going to get their masks ? Even the ones that are open have long queues outside them.

If everyone had a mask then you could start tomorrow. But they don't
PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
9 Apr 2020 #1,339
@cms neuf

Not to difficult to make one. Instructions on the internet everywhere. They are not requiring surgical masks, just coverings.
mafketis 23 | 8,404
9 Apr 2020 #1,340
Where are people going to get their masks ?

Is there any standard for these things or is any cloth-like thing over the nose and mouth enough?

Czech did something similar early on and it worked pretty well... prominent idiots early on telling everybody that there was no point to wearing masks have outed themselves as idiots who no one should listen to...
cms neuf - | 1,589
9 Apr 2020 #1,341
You can make them easily enough but you need a sewing machine and some elastic.

You can buy dust scarves or snoods in cycling shops and they work well (that's what I use). But the cycling and clothes shops are all shut.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
9 Apr 2020 #1,342
A needle, thread, some cloth and a waistband from some shorts or underwear. Pretty easy fix.
johnny reb 23 | 4,519
9 Apr 2020 #1,343
The dots and numbers still aren't connecting with this virus.
This virus was no accident in my opinion.
Something is just kittywampus about this whole thing.
I have been thinking and reading, what a perfect cover for a mandatory biometric ID.
ID2020 is a project initiated by the Rockefeller Foundation, Bill Gates and Microsoft, transnational pharmaceutical corporations, and technology firms.
It is pushing the concept that every human on the planet needs biometric verification because "to prove who you are is a fundamental and universal human right," according to the ID2020 website.

"What they really want is a fully standardized data collection and retrieval format, and cross border sharing of identities of the entire population of the planet, in order for the stand alone AI-powered command center to work without a hitch, and for purposes of calculating everyone's potential contribution, and threat to the system," explains OffGrid Healthcare.

If you believe this is dangerously close to China's "social credit" system, you're probably not far off the mark.

and a waistband from some shorts or underwear. Pretty easy fix.

Or shoe strings and some staples.
cms neuf - | 1,589
9 Apr 2020 #1,344
Pretty easy fix if you are on your own. A lot of work if you are doing it for a five or six person family while trying to educate them and cook Easter food and stand in line. 10 masks is 10 bits of old underwear. Needle and thread - really you tried to do that ?

You can't just pull laws out of your ass and expect people to comply on the first day (which is also a holiday )
Atch 17 | 3,224
9 Apr 2020 #1,345
Czech did something similar early on and it worked pretty well.

Really??

Czech Republic 5,467 known cases out of a population of 10.5 million
Poland 5,575 known cases, population 38 million.

The actual number of cases in both countries of course would be much higher than the known cases but even so, comparing like with like, wearing masks appears to have made little difference and they have a higher rate of infection than Poland.

I can see the point of masks in enclosed spaces and crowded settings but wearing a home-made, ill-fitting or improvised mask when going for a walk seems utterly pointless and downright unhealthy. It's far healthier to get a good blast of fresh spring air in your lungs. With the reduced volume of traffic and boilers switched off, the air quality is pretty good at the moment. In most cases, you can avoid walking near other people as you can see them coming and give them a wide berth.
johnny reb 23 | 4,519
9 Apr 2020 #1,346
Maybe some of these idea's will help you constructing masks.

huffpost.com/entry/how-to-make-face-mask-bandana_l_5e876472c5b63e06281d87d9
huffpost.com/entry/how-to-make-face-mask-from-fabric-covid-19_l_5e834a20c5b62dd9f5d628e8
PolAmKrakow 1 | 434
9 Apr 2020 #1,347
@Atch

Well said. Masks in a week wont do anything. They could have easily done this on Monday effective Friday or something. This is like throwing a snowball at a freight train that has already passed.
cms neuf - | 1,589
9 Apr 2020 #1,348
If it was so simple then why is every hospital on earth short of masks ?

Are there enough shoelaces in the world to make all the masks needed ?

It depends what the fine is - if it is 50 zloty people won't bother. If it is 500, a weeks wages for a Pole, then you have to give people time to get sorted. It does not become law when some dude stands up and says it.

We made our own but you know what ? We went to a relatives house to borrow their sewing machine, which is also forbidden.
Atch 17 | 3,224
9 Apr 2020 #1,349
if it is 50 zloty people won't bother.

I'm not sure about that. They may not be allowed into the shops without a mask. They'll probably just wear a scarf and pull it up around their face.
johnny reb 23 | 4,519
9 Apr 2020 #1,350
A scarf over your nose, mouth and under your chin tight with no gaps on the sides is just as effective.

This is like throwing a snowball at a freight train that has already passed.

Keeps people busy and gives them something to b!tch about to take their minds off the news.


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