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Coronavirus in Poland


johnny reb 23 | 4,497
1 Apr 2020 #1,141
I guess you guys have never eaten China's delicacies like uncooked monkey brains or raw dogs testicles.
Vesko Vukovic 1 | 245
1 Apr 2020 #1,142
funny! I would had thought Trump's US is heading directly into the abyss...being the worst spot after China by now!

The Mexicans will start building the wall

and they will pay for it themselves

Trump is a visionary

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656

Coronavirus: Mexicans demand crackdown on Americans crossing the border

Mexican protesters have shut a US southern border crossing amid fears that untested American travellers will spread coronavirus.

Residents in Sonora, south of the US state of Arizona, have promised to block traffic into Mexico for a second day after closing a checkpoint for hours on Wednesday.

They wore face masks and held signs telling Americans to "stay at home".

PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
1 Apr 2020 #1,143
China is no better than a mass murderer who walks free on a technicality. The technicality being that they make cheap toys and clothes. Exactly why people should seriously boycott everything from China. If countries dont take a stand on this now, they will never stand for anything.
johnny reb 23 | 4,497
1 Apr 2020 #1,144
Trump is a visionary

Is there nothing happening in Serbia that you have to rely on the American virus news to post about biasedly ?
PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
1 Apr 2020 #1,145
@Vesko Vukovic

And Mexico will become a fourth world nation in about 90 days if they stop Americans from coming in. They cant even feed themselves. Thats actually commical.
Torq 32 | 2,999
1 Apr 2020 #1,146
The virologists have only been given one problem to solve and their simple solution of stay at home might end up causing more premature deaths.

I doubt it.

At the moment in Italy there are 105,792 infected, which is only 0.17% of Italian population. If we gave up all the safety measures and let 70% (according to German estimates) of their population to get infected, then we would be looking not at 12,428 deaths in Italy, but at over 5.1 million deaths! These are world-war-like losses!

And these are very conservative estimates, because if you look at worldometers info, the current death rate in Italy at the moment is 44% (!!!) - 12,428 deaths out of all 28,157 closed cases (and eventually all the cases will be closed, with patients either recovering or dying). If this rate in closed cases continues then the number of deaths can be as high as 19 million.

That's why the scientists are telling you: stay home.
I don't have to be as polite as the scientists, so I say: stay the f**k home.

P.S. And of course no health service in the world can deal with such numbers of patients. It would mean dead people at homes, in the streets, everywhere.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
1 Apr 2020 #1,147
If we gave up all the safety measures

It's a nice way of saying: But for the iron fist of the autocratic...
One day, the survivors will look at "democracies" as a mental disorder that almost wiped us out.
Cargo pants 2 | 472
1 Apr 2020 #1,148
I wonder what does this tell about China
mb.ntd.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_447579.html
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
1 Apr 2020 #1,149
I wonder what does this tell about China

Nothing, because you're clearly not able to identify genuine news from fiction.

The original source is the Epoch Times, which is a hotbed of disinformation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times
pawian 170 | 11,329
1 Apr 2020 #1,150
Coming back to the value of PiS` statistics:
the latest news - they have run out of tests in Lesser Poland region, especially in Krakow.

krakow.wyborcza.pl/krakow/7,44425,25837342,szpital-uniwersytecki-wstrzymuje-testy-na-koronawirusa-dla-osob.html

PolAmKrakow, when you get a virus, they won`t be able to test you.

No tests, no virus deaths. How simple!
PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
1 Apr 2020 #1,151
@pawian

True no test equal no results. I wonder how it is they keep reporting results in then? I don't believe everything in the press, anyone who does is doomed to be confused.
Vesko Vukovic 1 | 245
1 Apr 2020 #1,152
1

2

ft.com/coronavirus-latest

f**k ... how the tactic of the immunity of the herd will turn out to be bad in the UK

Severe progression of deaths in the UK

180 - 380 - 560 in the last three days

The Italians had on that number of infected (30k) ~ 350 deaths per day

The death toll in New York has exceeded 1,000, and officials warn that the situation is expected to worsen.

City health authorities say nearly 1,100 people have died of COVID 19 in New York City and more than 1,500 in New York State.

I don't know if anyone mentioned it.
If there's anyone from NY here, I hope they're ok.
Crow 139 | 8,583
1 Apr 2020 #1,153
THEY just needed something to be able to explain things. To explain how Poland, Hungary, Czeska, Serbia, etc countries becoming better for living then Italy that is in debt for €2.4 trillion ($2.7 trillion). Can you even imagine some Slavic country trillion eur in debt? How did Italy managed to cope with it. As parasite of course. As parasite on Slavic world, Central and Eastern Europe, on Africa. Parasitic Italians just same as damned Romans. They managed that with support of Papacy and western Europe that are parasites on its own and bail out their parasitic Greek apprentices. And why not say, all that with consent of USA. But things changed. Thank God China and Russia moved things and then came venerable Trump to finish this madness. Just I hope in time.

And virus and death rate are biggest in Lombardy and Padania, regions that wants to secede from Italy. Expect soon to read how Catalans died out. That`s how Popes deal with things and with those who refuse to be part of the soup.
pawian 170 | 11,329
1 Apr 2020 #1,154
Did you hear the Chinese "Wet Markets" are back open?

Yes, that`s outrageous. Unfortunately, sanctions against them are out of question. Pity.

Yep, lock the scaremongering fukker up!

Dolno? No, let him go. He doesn` t know what he is doing.

Can you provide evidence that the death rate is 5 times than what is officially reported in Poland ?

I will when you provide well-grounded evidence that the official death rate caused by the Chinavirus is a true one. :)

For someone who passed his matura and is supposedly a teacher

One needs to have higher education to become a teacher, matura is not enough. But it has been changing recently,due to PiS` policy towards education, I heard about cases when senior students were asked to teach their younger peers in a high school. In this way we are coming back to communist times` methods. You love communism, don`t you? hahaha So now you can thank PiS for that.
Joker 1 | 1,574
1 Apr 2020 #1,155
Yes, that`s outrageous. Unfortunately, sanctions against them are out of question.

If nothing is done about the Chinese, they will just keep doing it over and over. The already have!

Exactly why people should seriously boycott everything from China.

Im all for that. Im done buying any of their poorly made products. Its all cheap junk, knock offs, copies and stolen ideas.

China is no better than a mass murdere

Its more like an attack because its not the first time and they keep right on doing it.

I think NATO should get involved, we've been attacked!
pawian 170 | 11,329
1 Apr 2020 #1,156
Yes, but we need to run a social campaign among millions in each country. I am in.
Cargo pants 2 | 472
1 Apr 2020 #1,157
243 infected and 10 deaths so far today in whole Poland
wiadomosci.wp.pl/koronawirus-mapa
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
1 Apr 2020 #1,158
I think NATO should get involved, we've been attacked!

Now THAT was funny! Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Vesko Vukovic 1 | 245
1 Apr 2020 #1,159
And virus and death rate are biggest in Lombardy and Padania, regions

The highest concentration of the Chinese and their garment production halls is in Tuscany, in Prato and there they are from various parts of China. And behold a miracle, themselves the Chinese community in Italy, everywhere in Italy, started implementing isolation measures on its own, locking down all those companies where things were sewn, and started practically two weeks before the Government's official measures to sit at home, wearing masks, and you could practically see no Chinese anywhere on the street.

What is really the reason why Italy so infamously crashed is that due to the pressure of eternally money hungry big businessmen, especially in Lombardy, for which the whole world may die if they from that can make a buck, in the Lombardy region, they decided to deafen to the experts' recommendations that they should introduce restrictive measures immediately, even in the first half of February, they were already waiting for the Fashion Week in Milan to pass, fashion fairs where huge money is made, and only then, when they had a sea of ​​positive cases, did they start to introduce restrictive measures. The same thing happened to a lesser extent in Veneto (the region with the highest number of tax evaders). The result was a catastrophe for Emilia-Romagna, as a crowd of people attended these events in Milan and took home the virus because Emilia-Romagna is a huge production basin. The government looked at all this and did nothing because they had political calculations to deal with. Even when measures were introduced, there was almost a rebellion not to shut down the factories and continue production, because for their sake they were losing money, and they had strikes in the meantime, because they were forcing people to work without masks, gloves and without any security measures.

And now the whole country will descend, ie. it has already descended into an unseen channel because of a small group of $hits for whom there has never been enough of money.

38 days after declaring a state of emergency in the country, you cannot find masks, nor buy hand disinfectant anywhere. There are not enough masks neither for doctors and medical staff. In addition, you have 5-6 factories only in Lombardy that just manufacture masks, but no one has organized them so far to mass produce, so that you can enable the population to at least buy them (if you are not able to distribute them masks). 51 doctors are dead from the corona virus, and 4,000 medical workers are infected. If this lasts, they will no longer have anyone to treat the sick. Meanwhile, almost all "regular" patients with chronic pathologies requiring a variety of therapies are left to themselves. General practitioners (family doctors) refuse to go for home visits because they do not have protective equipment (masks, gloves). So one day they will also have to count the dead who died because they were abandoned by the health care system. Children with autism, handicapped persons, psychiatric patients, people and children with rare diseases, all are practically left to themselves.

Of the economic measures, nothing has been put in place yet. The only two things that have been expressly decided and implemented are:

Publication of account numbers so that the citizens pay voluntary contributions to the health system - hence the shaking down of citizens (which you already tax with one of the highest tax rates in the world)

To distribute 400 million euros to Football Clubs, as a help, because what the heck poor them, they are suffering a great deal of damage. Hey football clubs..............

The politicians in Parliament are already preparing for the confrontations and attacks that will follow when there is no longer such a nasty situation, they are already spitting on each other on the television, no one even thinks about the citizens, just how to seize a better starting position for the later confrontation.

So, in a live broadcast, the complete defeat and a crash of one country.

Ah yes, at the end of the day, you are being helped by, sending help and doctors are those who you spit on and upon whom you have been crapping on the worst for a long time, that they are savages and practically enemies (Cuba, China, and now Russia).

And friends - nowhere no one.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
1 Apr 2020 #1,160
Thanks for that post, Vesko.
The real problem in not that some people died. It's that the idiots here and there think that the so-called Western "democracies" are morally superior.
Velund 1 | 398
1 Apr 2020 #1,161
And friends - nowhere no one.

And what Italians now think about their Czech EU partners and NATO allies, after they confiscated a load of medical supplies, sent as a help to Italy from China?
Crow 139 | 8,583
2 Apr 2020 #1,162
Italians? They now replace EU and NATO flags with Chinese and Russian flags.

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PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
2 Apr 2020 #1,163
Italians were playing the Italian cup football with packed stadiums a month into this pandemic. I have no sympathy for stupidity. There is simple ignorance based on lack of education and then there is outright idiocy. The upside is vacations to pizzatopia will be on sale this summer.
Crow 139 | 8,583
2 Apr 2020 #1,164
Italians are as people generally famous as people without a backbone. When see that are outplayed, they goes to highest bidder. Sure, in secret, they always have hidden knife. Its in Roman tradition.
Weimarer 10 | 620
2 Apr 2020 #1,165
Ah Italy, cutting their healthcare system down for profit, selling out to Mafia. Holding football cups during rising pandemic amd import cheap chinese workers...but when Germany doesnt pay their debt they suck chimese and russkie dick. They are what they are, always switching sides.

That said, Italy has gargantuan state debt, even before pandemic. They now want eurobonds, that eans they want leech off the renomee of financial stable nations like Germany. Countries much poorer than Italy but with much better financial standing would suffer too, like the baltics or poland.

Germany is against that, there wont be eurobonds and what you see there is simply typical italian bullshit.
johnny reb 23 | 4,497
2 Apr 2020 #1,166
All I saw there was simple German bullshit.
Poland will be much more sympathetic towards Germany when Germany falls again.
Over 1000 die in a single day here in the U.S. from the virus.
I can only imagine how many by the end of next week.
Crow 139 | 8,583
2 Apr 2020 #1,167
Ah Italy

Ah its an old game.

They are what they are, always switching sides.

Just now things changed for good. Scythians arrived and finally arrived properly in political sense not to disrupt fine balance within their Sarmatian kin. And Sarmatians themselves strengthened and aren`t naive anymore. So, Sarmatians neither have reason for symbiotic relationship to Rome, neither have reason to serve Roman masters. I think Sarmats take back their throne- throne of Europe and West. Scythinas takes their share.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,583
2 Apr 2020 #1,168
Germany starts hoarding "Avigan" (Favipiravir) from Japan, even as it is not yet approved in Germany, also Kaletra and Foipan. The US does too...so do the Czech Republic, China and Indonesia...

focus.de/finanzen/boerse/aktien/pandemie-deutschland-deckt-sich-mit-wundermittel-avigan-ein_id_11840952.html

fiercepharma.com/pharma/white-house-asks-fda-to-approve-fujifilm-s-avigan-for-covid-19-should-agency-follow

It's meant against the Flu but it seems to work also for worse Covid-19 cases...possible the first ray of light at the end of the tunnel, something that helps till a vaccine and a cure is developed.

Poland should take note!
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
2 Apr 2020 #1,169
I wonder how it is they keep reporting results in then?

They're only testing about 4000-4500 per day in Poland. It's nowhere near enough when compared to the ease of getting tested in Germany. There are countless first-hand reports from people about how difficult it is to actually get tested, and people are dying without ever getting tested. To give an idea of how far behind Poland is, Germany is testing about 50,000 per day.

Interestingly, with Mazowsze suffering the worst so far, it's very clear that the #lotdodomu programme was completely irresponsible. We're also seeing blatant Stalinism in the health service - anyone that publicly speaks about poor working conditions is getting sacked on the spot.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 433
2 Apr 2020 #1,170
@delphiandomine

Ok, I agree. They reported 5000 tests a day this morning with more to come. Sure its not enough. People with mild symptoms though simply dont need to be tested, they need to stay home. Only 20% of cases are serious. So if you are sick, flu or COVID, stay in your house unless its serious. How hard is that?

If and when people get tired of the people making the rules and enforcing them, then they need to be voted out. There is actually no better time to ensure everyone votes now because it can be done by mail. No excuses for people to not show up. Its mostly older people dying here, so PiS loosing support every day.

PiS surely looking more stupid by the day for giving all that money to TVP now.


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