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johnny reb 33 | 7,332
18 Jun 2022 #10,201
The CDC advisory board just recommended the covid vaccine for children at six months old.
God saves us from this insanity !
johnny reb 33 | 7,332
20 Jun 2022 #10,203
Florida's governor DeSantis was asked about a debate on vaccines that occurred Friday and comments from the biden administration last week that he had changed course and was ordering vaccines for young children.

Quoting:
"The White House is lying about it, surprise. Not surprised the White House would lie, definitely not surprised that legacy media would amplify the lie, because that's what they do," DeSantis said. "The state of Florida, they came out with an article saying the state of Florida has not ordered, it's Department of Health has not ordered mRNA jabs for the babies. Yes, we didn't. We recommend against it."

"We are not going to have any programs where we're trying to jab 6-month-old babies with mRNA," he added. "That's just the reality. I think what they thought would happen was that we'd be embarrassed about it."

Here is a website for your sister PolAm,

"No Child Should Be Given These Vaccines" !

rumble.com/v1909j5-bombshell-dr.-clare-craig-exposes-how-pfizer-twisted-their-clinical-trial-d.html

Six months old !
That is nothing short of child abuse.
jon357 71 | 20,468
22 Jun 2022 #10,204
rumble.

A questionable source known for fake news. For medical information, stick to official public health sources.





Lyzko 33 | 8,166
22 Jun 2022 #10,205
@Johnny, quit blaming Biden for everything from inflation to a lousy love life! The man can only do so much. Even with a Dem majority, the Reps keep blockin' him at every bend and turn.

He needs the patience of Job himself just to get through the day.
johnny reb 33 | 7,332
23 Jun 2022 #10,206
quit blaming Biden for everything

@Lyzko
Face it buddy, the American dream ended.
The first term of biden has been the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest republic in the history of mankind.

Now, after a half billion men have received mRNA shots, us skeptics appear to be right that the vaccines may present a risk to men's sperm counts.

What was a conspiracy theory is now just a theory. AGAIN.
Forcing men under 40 to take the mRNA vaccines was a huge mistake in my opinion.
Novichok 3 | 7,107
23 Jun 2022 #10,207
Talking stupid women into vaccinating kids under 6 should be a felony.
Mothers vaccinating their kids under 6 should be charged with felony child abuse.
BTW, I saw about 10 maskholes today. All women.
johnny reb 33 | 7,332
23 Jun 2022 #10,208
It's even worse than that, Novi.
They are letting stupid mothers vaccinate their spawn as early as, SIX MONTHS OLD NOW !
Helicopter mothers is the new norm, Novi, stay as far away from the bitter control freaks as you can.
Same as abortion, the babies have no say............. in getting booted up by an experimental gene altering vaccine that potentially does more harm than good.
Lyzko 33 | 8,166
23 Jun 2022 #10,209
I actually agree with you on the latter point, Johnny.
The vax ought long to have been a matter of choice.
Korvinus 1 | 597
23 Jun 2022 #10,210
A couple years back, we went through one of our increasingly bizarre media cycles when journalists actually test to see how much bullshit the public will buy before it cries foul.

There were deaths worldwide in asthmatics that were blamed on "weird electrical activity" in the ionosphere.

I never pretended to know what was really causing asthmatics to suddenly drop dead but I suspected something really sinister. This flap of deaths came right after the annual flu shots and I wondered if somehow they were putting something into the shot then charging it in the atmosphere to see how many people they could kill.

I still don't know what happened exactly but I think it has something to do with what is going on now.

I also fear that when they switch to the new 5G frequencies, we are going to discover that everything prior was just prologue.

youtu.be/hcQPA4nwyAM
jon357 71 | 20,468
23 Jun 2022 #10,211
I also fear that when they switch to the new 5G frequencies

We have 5g already.

It's safe.
Korvinus 1 | 597
23 Jun 2022 #10,212
It's safe.

doctors4covidethics.org/investigation-of-metallic-contaminations-found-in-vector-and-mrna-based-covid-19-vaccines-preliminary-results/

Investigation of metallic contaminations found in vector- and mRNA-based COVID-19-"vaccines": Preliminary Results

Title is self-explaining. The known is bad enough, but it is the unknown components of those vaccines that we should "worry" about now. I am 100% certain that this is above anything available in public knowledge.

I already know these vaccines are lethal, sterilizing genocidal killer blood clot body/brain destroying. What I am scared of is finding out what all that other crap does in them.

What sounded like paranoid schizophrenia 20 years ago is sounding reasonable today. They are trying to control you from the inside with nanotech and 5G. I confess I hardly understand how that is even possible but that disbelief alone means they proceed with confidence knowing most people won't understand or believe it until it is too late and they have no choice. This will likely be when the zombie horde is born and all of us accept that they damned 90% of mankind.
jon357 71 | 20,468
23 Jun 2022 #10,213
They are trying to control you from the inside with nanotech and 5G

Who are?

I confess I hardly understand how that is even possible

I'm not surprised, since it isn't possible.

This will likely be when the zombie horde is bor

U ok Hun?
johnny reb 33 | 7,332
23 Jun 2022 #10,214
I'm not surprised, since it isn't possible.

Your sources please to confirm your opinion.
jon357 71 | 20,468
23 Jun 2022 #10,215
It's on the person who made silly claims to justify them.

Don't be silly.

This isn't an American debating club.

I'd love to see a source though for the ridiculous claim that:

They are trying to control you from the inside with nanotech and 5G

He's also yet to answer the question about who the non-existent "they" are. I suspect the answer will either never come out be depressingly deranged.
Korvinus 1 | 597
24 Jun 2022 #10,216
the question about who the non-existent "they" are

I have explained it to you twice already, in this thread.
https://polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/332/#msg1831455
https://polishforums.com/news/poland-coronavirus-85511/276/#msg1817020

I know it is a terrible thing to say but I honestly understand the elites and what at least part of their motivation is for doing this.

Like Dr. Manhattan said at the end of WATCHMAN to Ozymandias ... I understand but I do not condone.

If you go to Walmart after midnight and look around at the customers in attendance ... let's be honest ... this situation was not going to continue indefinitely. I have always assumed that natural selection was going to reset things and if these same elites had not been screwing with market forces for the last century and manipulating information and culture to produce this outcome, it would have reset itself naturally a long time back. The society was never going to support this many people to pretend at life off the backs of others.

It must be a strange coincidence that the same "Great Satan" they teach in modern western culture are also the people who pay all the taxes for this grand charade of circus freaks - middle class white males. These "evil" people pay the way for all the single mothers in the country so they and their children don't starve. They pay the way for all the academics and universities to turn out people who will be useless for almost anything but attacking same. That model for society simply doesn't work. At all. There's this little ever shrinking group of rubes that pay for the entire thing including the massive swindles of the plutocrats ... who were the ones who got the bulk of all the COVID checks written by the government for their "inconvenience." This same group is now being asked to send 13 billion to the Ukraines. They are just about tapped out. They had the entire nation sucking their blood for decades like ramora eels and they are almost dry. Something had to give somewhere.

I don't think they intend to stop with the nonentities who willingly took the clot shot, though. I think that was just where they intended to begin.
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,217
I have explained it to you twice already

"Nanobots and 5G"
You just posted American conspiracy stuff from the internet.

Great Satan" they teach in modern western culture

Do they?

middle class

Doctors, lawyers, senior managers, teacher/lecturers, people who own businesses?

You're overthinking this.

And the "zombie" horde is not real.

elites

There are certainly financial elites. Meaning wealthy business people and their willing enablers.

It's nothing to do with covid however they do manipulate people, usually using clever PR to persuade the working class to vote against their own interest (by voting Tory or Republican etc) and getting them all worked up about abortions or transgender people while they stand in the food bank queue and the bourgeoisie cruise past in their Mercedes.

Those people lost out through covid. The only people who benefited were the professional middle classes who worked at home and saved on their commute.
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,218
Not as effectively as very well carried out PR by people trying to accumulate personal wealth at the expense of society.

Fortunately (and the way people in Poland pulled together during Covid and the way people in Britain rallied around the NHS both show) there is still hope.

their PR

Do they?

If anything they fear theories of labour and capital that threaten their greed

They even try to paint the idea of fair distribution of wealth as a bogeyman.

Some even fight to profit from health and illness, not that Marx ever wrote about medicine.
Anthonylas28 - | 38
24 Jun 2022 #10,219
Can you not see Big Pharma and the mega corporate world aligning their values with faux-Marxism in order to buy/appease the left? That's the way I see it. So what should be a movement to help workers ends up becoming a tool to frighten them with.
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,220
Big Pharma and the mega corporate world

The dangers of unrestricted capitalism.

their values with faux-Marxism

No. I'm not isure what you mean by the term "faux-Marxism."

Marx didn't write about medicine. Engels touched on cholera and typhoid epidemics of course, however that was in the context of poor living standards back in the days when people had to pay for medical treatment. Fortunately we have universal health care now.

a tool to frighten them with.

Creating fear is a common PR tool of people who want to make profit. That's yet another reason to listen to official advice from the Ministerstwo Zdrowia rather than YouTubers, bloggers and paid demagogues.

get young people to sign up for vaccines etc...

The Ministry of Health encourages vaccination and has done for decades.

They do this on sound, non-commercial medical advice and do it regardless of political party and regardless of whether the vaccine is commercially patented or generic and cheap.

That's one reason that do many once-common illnesses like smallpox, polio and mumps are rare today
Novichok 3 | 7,107
24 Jun 2022 #10,221
polio and mumps are rare today

...except when those lovely refugees bring them back...hahahahahaha...
Guess where polio reappeared again...It's London...and for a reason...hahahahaha...
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,222
Which is why public health monitoring and vaccination programmes are always both ongoing and adaptive to changing circumstances.

Even Korvinus' zombie apocalypse.

In our era of long-haul flights and international travel, society must always be proactive about infections disease transmission.

and for a reason.

Yes. That reason is that the UK no longer uses live vaccines whereas many other places do.

Polio hasn't "reappeared" in London. There are no cases of it that have been detected.

The story you read about in the trashy tabloid was about traces from live vaccine being detected once in a routine test of sewage at one sewerage farm.
Anthonylas28 - | 38
24 Jun 2022 #10,223
Yeah fair enough, perhaps it's a genuine organic movement away from organised religion and the corporations are simply reacting to their consumer base in order to stay relevant and the Marxism stuff is just conspiracy bullshit peddled by disgruntled people online. I would prefer to believe this to be fair, much less heavy.
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,224
a genuine organic movement away from organised

conspiracy bullshit peddled by disgruntled people online.

That doesn't make any sense at all

What relevance does it have to Poland's response to the Covid crisis and why do you think that corporations (do you mean companies?) are embracing Marxism, the diametric opposite of capitalism?

Don't businesses usually either react to their customer base or use marketing to create a consumer desire for their product or service?

Hard to know how that relates to Covid though, since the response was led by the Ministry of Health very much in opposition to the wishes of the business community.
jon357 71 | 20,468
24 Jun 2022 #10,225
Some good news about covid, particularly good for people in Poland who cross the Western border.

Germany has removed (as of a fortnight ago ( the restrictions they had in place for travelers, including those coming in from Poland.

No need to bring any special paperwork or be tested. The only restrictions are for travelers who've been in China and the German Ministry of Health says that this is due to reciprocity.

I'm coming back into Poland via Germany soon and am very pleased at the news

Poland of course lifted restrictions in late March.
Korvinus 1 | 597
25 Jun 2022 #10,226
There are certainly financial elites.

Don't forget the police and the globohomo elites, of course:

the police = enforcers of the politicians who are just the puppets of the globohomo elites
journalists = mouthpiece of the globohomo elites
politicians = as mentioned above just puppets of the globohomo elites
the globohomo elites = puppetmasters

Elites consider most of the population as cattle. And sadly Co-vid proved they are not exactly wrong. The only difference between us and them is moral standards and power.
jon357 71 | 20,468
25 Jun 2022 #10,227
That's just meaningless conspiracy woo. At least you didn't mention nanobots or zombies this time.

If covid showed us anything, it's how ill-prepared the world was for a pandemic and how we can pull together behind the NHS or it's Polish equivalent when one happens.

We dodged a bullet with that one. Through reducing the number of viral hosts through containment and robust vaccination programmes we avoided a deadlier mutation.

It also brought the lunatic fringe out of the woodwork with their podcasts, YouTube shīt and conspiracy theories. Fortunately most people are sensible enough to ignore all that.

In the next pandemic, we may not be so lucky.

The only difference between us and them is moral standards and power.

Did you imagine that most of the people at the top of the socio-economic tree have standards?
mafketis 34 | 11,904
25 Jun 2022 #10,228
If covid showed us anything, it's how ill-prepared the world was for a pandemic

Covid was never an epidemic, much less a 'pandemic'.... if anything it showed how uncapable the leadership of almost every country is.

The economic fall out is only beginning now: Hint, you can't shut down the world economy for two years and expect it to start right up again....

Russia's warmongering wouldn't be as severe a problem if dozens of countries hadn't hobbled themselves economically with ineffective and dysfunctional responses....

And they're still trying to seel the completely worn out and ineffective mrna shots?

Maybe they were of some use at one time, but that time has long past.
jon357 71 | 20,468
25 Jun 2022 #10,229
leadership of almost every country

Yet we survived it. Most of us, anyway.

The economic fall out is only beginning now

This was always a given.

Russia's warmongering wouldn't be as severe a problem

They seized the moment. It's on the free world to seize it back.
Anthonylas28 - | 38
25 Jun 2022 #10,230
@Korvinus, who do you place at the top of the socio-economic tree? For me it's big pharma, they produce life saving drugs etc. so are in a seemingly insurmountable position. Russell Brand does some pretty good videos on them with regards to the profitability of the vaccines.


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