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Coronavirus in Poland


Novichok 1 | 2,927
19 Jul 2021 #6,871
All I meant is that you are incorrect saying it's all voluntary.

I asked my doc about allergies to the vaccines. It's "extremely" rare, I was told. So, you can't demand a sensible policy on the basis of what is extremely rare.

This means that the refuseniks don't get vaccinated of their own free will, therefore, voluntarily remain unvaccinated. Just like some people voluntarily do not evacuate before a hurricane.

Rich likes to go off

You don't know what Rich likes. Rich didn't authorize you to speak on his behalf, so fu*ck off.
Novichok 1 | 2,927
19 Jul 2021 #6,872
Quoting from cdc.gov:

cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

Twenty-one cases were determined to be anaphylaxis (a rate of 11.1 per million doses administered),

11 per million goes into the "tough luck" folder and is no reason to change anything in the lives of 999,989.
mafketis 29 | 9,507
20 Jul 2021 #6,873
Tuesday topics

percent of positive test results: 0.22% of 47,607 tests

hospitalization: +7 to 349

deaths: 4 (all with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 8, no change from yesterday

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
20 Jul 2021 #6,874
Follow the money.............
George Soros and Billy Gates have teamed up for a $41 million purchase of Covid testing company.
Just the people and their foundations that I want to have access to my medical information.
About $41 million will be ponied up by the buyers, which include the Soros Economic Development Fund and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
All in disguise of helping poor countries.

You don't know what Rich likes.

Everyone here knows what Rich likes and that is to argue.

Rich didn't authorize you to speak on his behalf,

Don't flatter yourself with such a stupid projection on your part.

so fu*ck off.

Promise to swallow ?
Cargo pants 2 | 951
20 Jul 2021 #6,875
Did any one here register for National Vaccination Lottery programme?I am wondering if I can register as I was vaccinated in the States.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,666
20 Jul 2021 #6,876
I wonder if Poland is going to go all crazy with the digital vaxx passports like the rest of Europe.... BJ announced that now you have to basically prove you're vaccinated to get into crowded establishments i.e. concerts, nightclubs, etc. A recent negative test is no longer good enough. Meanwhile, Macron drafted a law that says business owners can be fined 40k EU and face up 1 year in prison if they don't check patrons vaccine status. What ever happened to medical privacy??

They are really ******* with people....

If the governments really wanted to keep people healthy they'd do something about food, plastics waste everywhere, rampant drug use, etc. and turning society upside down over a disease that has a less than 1% mortality rate... More and more this seems to me and I'm sure millions of others that this is nothing more than a massive test study, using the population as guinea pigs... genetic engineering and modification...

I dare say it seems like places like Russia have more freedom than those in the west - at least they're not making people show vaccine passports everywhere they go or threatening to throw business owners in jail because they let someone without a vaccine into their establishment
jon357 67 | 16,807
20 Jul 2021 #6,877
you have to basically prove you're vaccinated

By downloading a QR code to your phone. Takes 30 seconds.

If the governments really wanted to keep people healthy they'd do something about food, plastics waste everywhere

They do, however 'libertarian conservatives' oppose them tooth and nail.

-1- it seems like places like Russia have more freedom than those in the west -2- at least they're not making people show vaccine passports

-1- No it doesn't.
-2- Yes they are.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,845
20 Jul 2021 #6,878
The government in the uk are 'libertarian conservatives ' jon. Shock horror!
jon357 67 | 16,807
20 Jul 2021 #6,879
The government in the uk are 'libertarian

No; they try to cultivate that image, however their legislative programme clearly demonstrates otherwise.

Shock horror!

Shock? No. They're acting from a playbook that predates the Romans. Horror? Very much so; it's barely begun.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
20 Jul 2021 #6,880
A large share of unvaccinated Americans say the Covid vaccine poses a greater risk to their health than the virus itself, according to a poll released Tuesday - contradicting broad agreements among scientists about the safety of the vaccines.

Why is it that societies no longer trust their governments ?
The vaccinations centers sit empty and the hospitals sit full.
The hospitals are keeping those beds filled since they get reimbursed by the government for $20,000 a bed.
School opens next month in Michigan and it has been determined if the student has been vaccinated they don't have to wear a mask but those unvaccinated do.

What a guilt sigma to put on children.
I think biden/obama have pushed it as far as they possibly can.
Now even the vaccinated are testing positive called "break though" cases.
The sky is falling !
mafketis 29 | 9,507
21 Jul 2021 #6,881
Wednesday window watching...

percent of positive test results: 0.29% of 42,208 tests

hospitalization: -10 to 339 (new streak begins?)

deaths: 3 (all with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 8, no change from yesterday

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
mafketis 29 | 9,507
22 Jul 2021 #6,882
Thursday themes....

percent of positive test results: 0.34% of 37,494 tests

hospitalization: -10 to 329 (2nd day of negative numbers and lowest total since March 11, 2020)

deaths: 9 (6 with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 6, lowest number since July 28, 2020...

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
Novichok 1 | 2,927
22 Jul 2021 #6,883
Thursday numbers:

Poland
Population - 38 million. Covid deaths - 75,000 or 0.19%

USA
Population - 330 million. Covid deaths - 626,000 or 0.19%

Conclusion: we will all die.
Spike31 2 | 2,321
23 Jul 2021 #6,884
crazy with the digital vaxx passports like the rest of Europe

There's no 'vaccine' passport in the UK. Unless by the rest of Europe you mean EU-kolkhoz

As of 19 July, all "pandemic" restrictions were lifted in England. Some local lefties, like funny little man Sadiq Khan, are still trying to impose local restrictions in London but those are limited to TFL, tube (subway) mostly.
mafketis 29 | 9,507
23 Jul 2021 #6,885
Friday frettings....

percent of positive test results: 0.29% of 37,197 tests

hospitalization: -5 to 324 (3rd day of negative numbers and lowest total since March 11, 2020 - also the lowest number on respirators since they began tracking that number,,,, 52)

deaths: 4 (2 with comorbidities)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 6, no change lowest number since July 28, 2020...

And yet the government claims that the number of currently infected has _risen_ to 153, 541 !!!! Clear falsehood, why is the government lying in this way?

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
Novichok 1 | 2,927
23 Jul 2021 #6,886
Breaking news! I didn't as much as sneezed once.
Spike31 2 | 2,321
23 Jul 2021 #6,887
That means nothing. You can be asymptomatic. You can live your whole life not knowing about that fact. And once you die at the young age of 107 it will be corona that killed you.
jon357 67 | 16,807
23 Jul 2021 #6,888
You can live your whole life not knowing about that fact.

Tests are free.

And once you die at the young age of 107 it will be corona that killed you.

No it won't, statistically.
jon357 67 | 16,807
23 Jul 2021 #6,890
@PolAmKrakow
That's a shame. They're free here, and there are pop-up testing centres literally all over the place.

The only one I've done in Poland was from Śzpital MSWiA and was expensive however I think they're available at some private place in town for less.
mafketis 29 | 9,507
23 Jul 2021 #6,891
They're free here, and there are pop-up testing centres literally all over the place.

They have to keep up those case numbers somehow...... although despite testing more than the rest of the continent put together (citation needed) the number of cases has maybe peaked.... somehow after 18 months some people still haven't figured out that covid works in waves (4-6 weeks increase then a plateau and a fall).

I do think it will be great when the numbers fall after 'freedom day' and all the doom sayers who wanted to extend lockdown austerity (though note: no one can 'give' you freedom you take/exercise your freedom).
Novichok 1 | 2,927
23 Jul 2021 #6,892
I feel sorry for the panic peddlers...In the case hell known as Florida, with "cases" going through the roof (400% in the last 60 days), people ignored the memo and just don't want to play along and die. In fact, the daily deaths dropped by 40% in the last two months.

This lack of respect for the covid authorities is really upsetting and should not be allowed to continue.
Spike31 2 | 2,321
23 Jul 2021 #6,893
No it won't

All other causes of death are currently put on hold.

When you die it's because of corona unless you prove otherwise.

If you die 'normally' by a simple heart attack or cancer or neglection you're not newsworthy.

News of the day.

Almost fully 'vaccinated' Israel reports spike in corona infections:

hamodia.com/2021/07/15/israel-reports-700-new-covid-cases-third-day-spike-seriously-ill/
Novichok 1 | 2,927
23 Jul 2021 #6,894
When you die it's because of corona unless you prove otherwise

That's why everybody should be tested once an hour and a notarized certificate stapled to the person under test. This would prevent miscoding.
jon357 67 | 16,807
23 Jul 2021 #6,895
All other causes of death are currently put on hold.

That's simply untrue.

I do think it will be great when the numbers fall after 'freedom day'

We've had 'freedom day' and the numbers are rising here.
mafketis 29 | 9,507
23 Jul 2021 #6,896
the numbers are rising here.

Nope. July 22 numbers are down a bit from earlier in the week (I've read that the numbers were slowing elsewhere as well).

7 day moving average has also dropped a tiny bit....

Numbers had been rising for about 6 weeks so a decline is expected.

Also see here - rising cases and deaths are no longer strongly linked (for the 'wait 2 weeks!' crowd that graph controls for that)

twitter.com/statsjamie/status/1418592740582072322/photo/1
Novichok 1 | 2,927
23 Jul 2021 #6,897
In the last 30 days, "cases" in the US quadrupled, and the daily deaths went down from 350 to 250. So much for those pandemic cases.
Conclusion: more cases, fewer dead. Good to know.
mafketis 29 | 9,507
23 Jul 2021 #6,898
People and governments should be thrilled - but instead it's nonstop gloom and doom - again covid policies were _never_ about health and all the lockdown drama was about introducing and enforcing austerity, and all for nothing in terms of public health.

All that loss and suffering - for nothing except to make a few oligarchs even richer than they were before.

Just for that - nothing else.
Novichok 1 | 2,927
23 Jul 2021 #6,899
And you can't sue the little Hitlers drunk on power.

I will throw up if I hear "science" one more time.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
24 Jul 2021 #6,900
Finally it comes out. $$$$$$$$
The U.S. is paying about $24 a dose, according to Pfizer, up from the $19.50 that the government paid in its earlier deals to supply the country.

The deal brings the total purchased from the U.S. to 1 billion doses.
The companies said they expect to deliver 110 million of the additional doses by the end of the year, with the rest by the end of next April.

So $25 Billion the U.S. Government paid Pfizer so far ?
And remember, the truth is that Pfizer didn't receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine.

Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government.

Could we have the names of all the individuals who actually profited from this please.
Germany should be furious !


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