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Dirk diggler 9 | 4,666
14 Jul 2021 #6,811
CDC says otherwise - that if you're vaccinated you don't have to wear a mask... it's all b.s regardless...

Not that I believe any of it nor do I really care. Personally, I find it equally hilarious and sad how easily people are manipulated over a disease that statistically has a less than 1% mortality rate.
Novichok 1 | 2,930
14 Jul 2021 #6,812
Wearing a mask protects you and others.

Are you responding to my latest posts or giving me another load of generalized crap?

you refuse to acknowledge the simplest explanations.

OK. What is your simplest explanation how A can infect B under the conditions I defined in 6807?

Sorry. I forgot to include "preachy" in "generalized crap".
mafketis 29 | 9,508
14 Jul 2021 #6,813
. Vaccinated people can still get sick, and more crucially infect others

This is voodoo thinking....
Tacitus 2 | 1,324
14 Jul 2021 #6,814
What is your simplest explanation how A can infect B under the conditions I defined in

That is what I said. You can still infect others even if you are vaccinated and have no symptoms.

This is voodoo thinking

No, just following the science.
mafketis 29 | 9,508
14 Jul 2021 #6,815
. You can still infect others even if you are vaccinated and have no symptoms.

Asymptomatic thread is like contacet spread - no longer taken seriously by serious people....

And if vaccines offer no protection - then why bother with them?
Tacitus 2 | 1,324
14 Jul 2021 #6,816
They offer significant protection, just not 100%.
mafketis 29 | 9,508
14 Jul 2021 #6,817
They offer significant protection

If they offer 'significant' protection then those who are vaccinated should not unduly worry one way or another. If worry is called for (especially transmission) then the vaccines have failed and we are back to step one....

My own opinion is the vaccines were never intended to be especially effective. They were to give people the illusion of hope until September when governments can shut the economy down again.

Not seeing much counter evidence in the real world...
Novichok 1 | 2,930
14 Jul 2021 #6,818
You can still infect others even if you are vaccinated and have no symptoms.

Yes, and I can be pope by Monday if I pray hard and fast.
Still dispensing preachy crap because it's effortless and because you deliberately ignored my post 6807.

They were to give people the illusion of hope until September when governments can shut the economy down again.

That's even more cynical than I am, but I am afraid that your are right. There is nothing the ruling swamp would not do to manipulate the naive and always obedient robots.
Tacitus 2 | 1,324
15 Jul 2021 #6,819
If worry is called for (especially transmission) then the vaccines have failed and we are back to step one

We don't need to choose between extremes. Vaccines offer a lot of protection and allow us to lift most restrictions. There are not perfect enough to justify lifting restrictions that are effective yet have no real impact on our lifes like wearing masks in public transportations and nursing homes.
Novichok 1 | 2,930
15 Jul 2021 #6,820
like wearing masks in public transportations and nursing homes.

If you use "even one life" rule, you can justify everything. What most refuse to accept is that nothing saves lives - only postpones death.

So the question is this:
Can a society be forced to wear masks against its will because masks increase the average life span? What if that society does not wish to live longer by a couple of months at the expense of quality of life? What if 99% are against the measures that might actually add those few months to the life span, assuming it's true?

I could probably live longer if I avoided all risks, but I do not want that kind of trade. As far as science goes, we already know that keeping kids in the bubble produces very bad results as their immune systems are not sufficiently exercised by exposure to bacteria and viruses.

This is how the term "safetyism" - a new mental disorder seen mostly in women and liberals - was born.

Bottom line: the "scientists" on the payroll of the ruling swamp pose a greater threat to us than this and the future viruses as they allow "democracies" to become soft tyrannies in the few minutes it takes to sign an executive order.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
15 Jul 2021 #6,821
Not seeing much counter evidence in the real world...

In the European Union, the EudraVigilance system had as of April 17, 2021, received 330,218 injury reports after vaccination with one of the four available COVID vaccines, including 7,766 deaths.
mafketis 29 | 9,508
15 Jul 2021 #6,822
Thoric Thursday numbers

percent of positive test results: 0.2r% of 41,577 tests

hospitalization: -4 to 388 (22nd day of negative numbers)

deaths: 12 (10 with comorbidities and 7 fewer than last Thursday's total)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 9, down three from yesterday, the lowest rate since August 6, 2020....

Not only has the Polish government stopped reporting it's ridiculously high 'currently infected' numbers, but Health Minister Adam Niedzielski no longer wants to hear from the rabble and has disabled responses to his twitter account (except from fellow travelers)

Yay for transparency!

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
15 Jul 2021 #6,823
Will Poland be next with civil unrest ?
French citizens rioted in response to plans by President Macron to mandate vaccine passports to enter venues like shopping malls, restaurants bars, hospitals, bars, caf├ęs and access public transport.

People will have to provide proof of vaccination or a negative COVID test to enter any of these sites from August onwards.
Given that they would have to cover the bill for every single PCR test, the restrictions would make the vaccine de facto mandatory for anyone who wants to live a normal life.

People in Paris responded on Bastille Day with an unruly protest that they have had 'enough'.
Novichok 1 | 2,930
15 Jul 2021 #6,824
Even the commies didn't require belonging to the party to be able to buy food. But the idiots here still gloat about their "democracies" without explaining what the word means.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
15 Jul 2021 #6,825
VACCINE PASSPORT, STEP ONE ?

SOURCE: HUMAN EVENTS
New Jersey will allow residents to access their COVID-19 vaccine data via a mobile app, but the governor argues it is not a vaccine passport.

"To be absolutely clear, this is not a passport," Gov. Murphy said. "Docket is intended to solely give residents easy access to their COVID vaccination record, especially if their vaccination card has been damaged or lost."

The New Jersey Republican Party, however, isn't buying it.
Novichok 1 | 2,930
15 Jul 2021 #6,826
I recall being accused of liking authoritarian regimes - as opposed to those cuddly "democracies", of course. Hahahaha...

From AP:

Authoritarianism advances as world battles the pandemic

That's the tiltle. Down below:

COVID is a dictator's dream opportunity," said Theary Seng, a Cambodian-American human rights lawyer...

Now my comment: Hahahahahahahaha...
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
15 Jul 2021 #6,827
On July Fourth, President Biden celebrated progress in the war on the coronavirus with infections plunging 93 percent since Inauguration Day. "Together, we're beating the virus," Biden said.

But at the recent Conservative Conference, attendees celebrated a different, essentially opposite, milestone that Biden had missed his goal of vaccinating 70 percent of adults.

Clearly they were hoping that they could sort of sucker 90 percent of the population into getting vaccinated and it isn't happening.
What began as "vaccine hesitancy" has morphed into outright vaccine hostility, as conservatives increasingly attack the White House's coronavirus message, mischaracterize its vaccination campaign and, more and more, vow to skip the shots altogether.

People are wising up.
This past year, we have seen many countries vote to eliminate or severely restrict civil liberties in the name of the public health.
One of the most outrageous legislative actions violating parental and human rights took place in Washington, D.C., in November 2020 when city council officials gave doctors the power to vaccinate children as young as 11 years old and hide what they did from parents.

What the hell are in these "experimental" vaccines to force them on people the way they are ?
Novichok 1 | 2,930
15 Jul 2021 #6,828
Do I spell Mengele correctly?

Those damn waves...It's just brake-accelerator, brake-accelerator, brake-accelerator, morons...See how many times you can do it before your car is a piece of junk...
pawian 178 | 15,899
15 Jul 2021 #6,829
Those damn waves..

The fourth wave is expected to come in mid/late August. The regions where PiS won the biggest support at elections are the most endangered.
Cargo pants 2 | 951
15 Jul 2021 #6,830
Do I spell Mengele correctly?

AMERICANISED yet?

The regions where PiS won

So Warszawa will be spared?
pawian 178 | 15,899
15 Jul 2021 #6,831
So Warszawa will be spared?

Yes, cities are doing well with vaccinations. But countryside regions in eastern and southern Poland are lagging behind.
Cargo pants 2 | 951
15 Jul 2021 #6,832
Even the people from that region are stubborn and wont get vaccinated and my wife is from that region and didnt get vaccinated.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
15 Jul 2021 #6,833
Red states with the nation's lowest vaccination rates are seeing many of the greatest increases in new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations.
Novichok 1 | 2,930
15 Jul 2021 #6,834
Good. Stupid games produce stupid results. We have too many people as it is. 50 million fewer would be a relief except that the dead would be the wrong people.

From dailymail.com:

More than 90% of Mississippi COVID-19 cases are among unvaccinated people while Los Angeles County says 100% of hospitalized patients have not had a shot

In Novichok English: FO of me and my masks. I ain't gonna wear none because you are an idiot.
Spike31 2 | 2,321
16 Jul 2021 #6,835
President Oedypus Macron has mentioned mandatory vaccination and look what happened

amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/france-protests-clashes-with-police-on-bastille-day-amid-anger-at-tighter-covid-rules
mafketis 29 | 9,508
16 Jul 2021 #6,836
Friday numbers

percent of positive test results: 0.25% of 36,801 tests

hospitalization: -26 to 362 (23rd day of negative numbers)

deaths: 14 (13 with comorbidities and 3 fewer than last Thursday's total)

from the previous day*: 7 day moving average of daily deaths: 8, down one from yesterday, the lowest rate since August 4, 2020....

*the source I use is a day behind and I'm too lazy to calculate on my own
Adolfo
16 Jul 2021 #6,837
Not everywhere. Sweden has taken a different route than most of other EU countries, which is surprising considering how much Sweden is alligned with the the rest of globalist directives.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
16 Jul 2021 #6,838
biden shipped over 500 million "experimental" Covid vaccines overseas in June while at the same time claiming that the U.S. was on track to meet his 70% vaccination goal by July 4th.

That never happened.
biden now claims that the U.S. population is 67% vaccinated, and if this was actually true then it would be very close to meeting Anthony Fucki's original guidelines for herd immunity.

So why all the frantic hype about unvaccinated people ?
Novichok 1 | 2,930
16 Jul 2021 #6,839
about unvaccinated people ?

To justify the latest model - the forever mask - the mask we will have to wear even at our funeral and beyond. As Tacitus said so eloquently and succinctly, masks protect everybody.
johnny reb 30 | 5,179
16 Jul 2021 #6,840
The establishment does not like losing control of the narrative.
And when they do, noticeably weird things start to happen.
For example, it is becoming obvious that the narrative on the "experimental mRNA vaccines" has slipped right through the fingers of the biden Administration, and as a consequence they are now in a scramble to get millions of vaccines injected into as many skeptical arms as possible before the public organizes for a full push back against the agenda.

It seems to me that they are in a bit of a desperation panic to keep "CONTROL" !
biden wants to go door to door asking people if they want to get poked.
I sure the hell hope they don't come to my house with their "experimental vaccine" that has ingredients of who knows what nor the long term effects from it.

When half the medical staff at my local clinic refused to get the vaccine a BIG Red Flag went up to pay attention to their agenda.

Hi, we're from the government and we're here to help. :-/


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