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johnny reb 28 | 4,738
10 Jan 2021 #4,231
Let's say they order 6000 and manage to use them all

Which means they will need 6000 more for the second vaccine that is required next week.
Each hospital can only administer so many vaccines per week.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 549
11 Jan 2021 #4,232
@delphiandomine
And there is the rub. Allegedly they have the army involved. I have yet to see a report of anything more than field hospitals with some military in them. I personally saw some military in Opolskie the other week, but really nothing in Krakow, Katowice, or Warsaw that I have seen. A lot of smoke and mirrors and so the brilliant government and their mouth pieces will extend the lockdown for two more weeks possibly as soon as today. Incompetence.
johnny reb 28 | 4,738
11 Jan 2021 #4,233
It's a true cluster F here in the U.S. too.
The State of Florida is prioritizing vaccines by age.
Well half of the population of Florida in the winter months are Snowbirds from the cold Northern States.
And since it goes by age many Floridians are dying because they can't get a vaccine because of the age requirement.
Even old geezer vacationers from Canada are flocking to Florida so they can get the vaccine.
This pushes the native Floridians to the end of the line.
Now China joe wants to administer just one vaccine instead of the required two to get more people vaccinated.
So it's not just Poland that doesn't know which hand is washing the other.
Get them damn vaccines rolling out in truck loads and start administering them, what the hell is the hold up ?
delphiandomine 87 | 18,433
11 Jan 2021 #4,234
Incompetence.

It's getting worse. They keep changing the rules surrounding stage 1, so while seniors that were economically active were supposed to get priority, it now turns out that they'll be vaccinated in turn along with the rest of them according to age. It's unbelievably idiotic - if they're still economically active, they should be first in line.

I know one guy in his 70's who still works as a football coach part time - shouldn't people like him be prioritised ahead of older people who are at little risk by sitting at home?
johnny reb 28 | 4,738
11 Jan 2021 #4,235
a football coach part time - shouldn't people like him be prioritised ahead of older people

No, he is not an essential worker.
A grocery store worker should have priorities over him as well as prisoners.
Essential workers, prisoners and people with underlying health conditions should have priority.
What is really unfair, in my opinion, is the people in prison where humans can not quarantine.
All prisons are testing about 85% positive which is very inhumane.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 549
11 Jan 2021 #4,236
1.2 million doses have arrived in Poland. 1 million of them sitting in storage. What does that say about this government? Last time I got a flu shot a few months ago it took me less than 5 minutes. How can these donkeys mess this up this badly? People blame Trump for inaction and incompetence? Why are they not blaming all of PiS here?
Cargo pants 2 | 659
11 Jan 2021 #4,238
Dammit they extended the lock down till end of January,Good luck small businesses.
delphiandomine 87 | 18,433
11 Jan 2021 #4,239
What does that say about this government?

That they're completely incompetent, as we all know?
mafketis 24 | 9,076
11 Jan 2021 #4,240
Good luck small businesses

Lockdowns by now are economically and politically motivated... anyone still no getting that isn't paying attention.

the idea is to destroy anything that can be replaced by a digital platform.... no real relief for small businesses because they've already been slated for extinction....

unless people just ignore government injunctions and take their lives back. It ends when the public says it ends.
pawian 176 | 14,293
11 Jan 2021 #4,241
that can be replaced by a digital platform...

How can eateries and guest houses be replaced by digital platform?

It ends when the public says it ends.

Therefore, we must wait and see if furious business owners will open after 17the as they are claiming now.
Cargo pants 2 | 659
12 Jan 2021 #4,242
This Saturday I went to Hala Gawardii and I didnt even see 1 person with mask and by 2.30am people were dancing and was so crowded.I am isolating now,did that crap on invitation at the spur of a moment being tipsy.I shouldve taken a video and stayed away.
Novichok - | 921
12 Jan 2021 #4,243
It ends when the public says it ends.

That obedience of the many to the few reminds me of the scenes we all have seen at least once - 10 SS controlling 10,000 prisoners who already know they will die, but nobody fights because nobody wants to be the first one shot.

The same with the lockdowns. We all know it's bulls**t but nobody wants to tango with the cops fearing they will be alone doing it.

What is really scary are the similarities, country to country. Is the world government in place and running already?
PolAmKrakow 1 | 549
12 Jan 2021 #4,244
In Krakow yesterday, many more people simply not wearing masks in public. Even on the news last night people walking around Warsaw with no masks, some even walking out of government buildings. Galleria Kazimierz had stores opening yesterday like Kruk which clearly is not essential, H&M had employee's in stocking shelves and other stores had activity related to opening up. Many small business on rynek still open and defying the "order".

While last lockdown everyone was pretty much going along without question, this one is turning. People are not going to take much more. My neighborhood is up in arms because our local Lewiatan went out of business, a local appliance repair shop also closed up along with several other small business all within a six block radius.

Meanwhile the PiS sheep keep believing they are managing the virus well. Opening schools next week for grades 1 to 3. Funny how there was a direct relationship to schools opening in the fall and an increased number of infections, yet they open schools first. And I have yet to read one confirmed report about how social distanced dining or shopping has resulted in an infection. Airports are open and people are flying in small confined planes, yet I cant go have a beer and sit outside at the local pub?
jon357 63 | 15,526
12 Jan 2021 #4,245
In Krakow yesterday, many more people simply not wearing masks in public

In Warsaw, people are quite good. The only time I've sen anyone without is on small, quiet side streets with almost nobody about.

Kruk which clearly is not essential

Weddings are still happening so presumably it's about the rings.. Plus buying gold (and I expect plenty of people are selling scrap gold at this time).

Meanwhile the PiS sheep keep believing they are managing the virus well.

Or more likely pretending they are. Privately they certainly know the scale of the damage. And they're frightened. Look out for dead cat news stories soon.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 549
12 Jan 2021 #4,246
@jon357
I dont think weddings are still happening. Kruk has been closed for weeks. I will check again today though.

It is now January 12th. A full 18 days after Christmas and that all so frightening "spike" of infections they predicted. Once again they predicted wrong. Were a huge spike been coming, we would have seen an escalation in numbers for a few days now. Instead, things remain steady, if not declining.

Two more weeks of lockdown? I dont think people are going to go for it. Especially considering the vaccine rollout is a complete clusterf@**
mafketis 24 | 9,076
12 Jan 2021 #4,247
The article that has been the basis of covid response...... is fatally mistaken and not peer-reviewed (and would doubtless be rejected)

eueeshealthcare.bloggproffs.se/2020/12/02/pcr-test-bjorn-hammarskjold-retraction-request-of-the-rt-pcr-sars-cov-2-test/

Covid is China's way of getting other countries to accept its authoritarian rule (including concentration camps, did I mention the current government of China has concentration camps?)
johnny reb 28 | 4,738
12 Jan 2021 #4,249
Do you really believe that crap about fetuses used in the development and production of the vaccine?

Yes I do.
Do you have sources to prove otherwise ?

Why are you spreading rumours and fake news?

Why do you spread rumors of the opposite ?
Don't you how to google such a simple question ?
lifenews.com/2020/12/03/heres-which-coronavirus-vaccines-are-developed-using-cells-from-aborted-babies/

It is illegal and you can be banned.

Since you know better, you have no excuse for doing it.
pawian 176 | 14,293
12 Jan 2021 #4,250
Do you have sources to prove otherwise ?

Yes, there are plenty of sites whose main motive is explaining why those fetuses are fake news.

Don't you how to google such a simple question ?

I know, however, it is impossible to find a credible source which wouldn`t be ideologically biased, just like those two sources you provided.
johnny reb 28 | 4,738
12 Jan 2021 #4,251
it is impossible to find a credible source which wouldn`t be ideologically biased,

Color me stupid with such meaningless reply.
So you admit then that your denial is just your personal opinion even though I can show you several sources that confirm my opinion that some Covid vaccines use human fetus's to manufacture them.

You are still in denial ?
pawian 176 | 14,293
12 Jan 2021 #4,252
I can show you several sources

Show them. So far you have only shown pro-life sites which use vaccines as a tool to promote their anti-abortion goals which are noble, yet they don`t make these sites credible sources. .
johnny reb 28 | 4,738
12 Jan 2021 #4,253
If my sites aren't, in your OPINION, credible then let's see your sites that dispute my sites.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 549
13 Jan 2021 #4,254
And the Polish Ministry of Health has now said, Teachers will begin getting the vaccine in March! March?!?!?! This is criminal! Why March you ask?

Because vaccines are only being administered from 8:00 am to 3:00 pm (15:00)!!!!!!

Thats right. A killing machine they would like to describe COVID as, and these idiots are only vaccinating people for 7 hours a day, and that does not include lunch breaks. Doing some simple math, it will take more than a year and a half to vaccinate Poland!

Vaccination should be happening around the clock if they are serious about getting it done. This is the typical "I only want to work my hours" mentality in Poland. Don't do more, only do enough not to get fired.

Anyone not shocked and embarrassed by this needs their head examined.
pawian 176 | 14,293
13 Jan 2021 #4,255
This is the typical "I only want to work my hours" mentality in Poland

Silly accusations. PIS rightards wasted all the money on handouts and did nothing to improve the health care system during their rule from 2015 till now. Do you expect workers to do overtime for free???? The times of serfdom and feudal service passed long ago.
mafketis 24 | 9,076
13 Jan 2021 #4,256
wasted all the money on handouts and did nothing to improve the health care system

Yep. They starved healthcare in order to buy votes from the feckless and gullible.

Note the complete PRL-ness of it all - a half-assed plan that's inflexible and unworkable...

Luckily I'm in no hurry to get the vaccine...
mlmdevelopers - | 1
13 Jan 2021 #4,257
Corona is a pandemic worldwide. all countries are suffer with it. The economic is going in bottom... This time after ine year we believe that we can win from corona after vaccination.. Government is helping to rid off this situation.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,105
13 Jan 2021 #4,258
Luckily I'm in no hurry to get the vaccine..

The issue is more to do with the EU than Poland, Britain has inoculated more people than the whole EU put together, Don't forget Germany has bought up its own supplies outside of the agreed EU joint action, murderers in German prisons will get the vaccine before you do.
pawian 176 | 14,293
13 Jan 2021 #4,259
Germany/ Britain

Because they are not ruled by such rightards as Polish ones.
Crow 144 | 8,678
13 Jan 2021 #4,260
People of Poland and Polonia, beware of any vaccine but Russian! All other vaccines have anti-Slavic genome incorporated that will mutate your haplotype.

See, even Hungary chooses Russian vaccine because Hungarians knows that have Slavic genetics and aren`t crazy to become non-Slavs, some Latinos or Arabs.

Its bottom line people! You aren`t morons.


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