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Coronavirus in Poland

kaprys 3 | 2,496
14 Mar 2020 #391
I guess it all depends on the area and the time of the day.
I haven't seen anyone panic but people are buying supplies. So have I.
I went shopping to my local biedronka three days in a row -so more often than usually .
On the first day I saw no rice on the shelves and just few packets of less popular kasza like bulgur or some 'mixes' but there was pasta. I saw no shortages of meat or bread on any of these three days. On just one day the queues were longer than usually.

The ladies at the tills were wearing rubber gloves and most people queuing had more stuff in the trolleys than usually but not all of them.

I saw some posts from friends on fb. One was a video from a lidl with the meat fridges almost empty at 10 am. But then again they might have been refilled later in the day with new supplies. As I said I had no problem with getting meat or fish the following day. Another friend posted a photo from a bus -apparently you can't get in through the door by the driver as usually and there's a tape protecting them from the passengers. I've also heard the doors open automatically now -you don't press the button. Looks odd but makes sense.

Today I went to collect medicine for my parents. I didn't want them to go out. Pharmacies smell through that little window in the door or ask the customers to get in one by one. They also ask you to keep a safe distance from another and people really seem to be sticking to the rules. I saw no one complaining and I went past several pharmacies today.

Finally, I got into a bakery. There was a sign on the door asking people to wait outside if there are three customers inside. Again no one seemed to be bothered. And actually there were no more than three customers when I was there.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,219
14 Mar 2020 #392
The world will be yours and everything in it,

Great if everyone dies of corona apart from ME. question is which Palace would I choose to live in , hmm maybe Buckingham Palace.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,309
14 Mar 2020 #393
Everyone will tell you that this virus has a death rate 10 times the seasonal flu.

To claim mortality rate we need two numbers: how many are infected and how many died due to being infected and not for any other reason. That means they would have to test every single dead body if it had that virus and prove that that body is dead because of it. Totally undoable bs.
Paulwiz 1 | 70
14 Mar 2020 #394
You can probably take your time before you start to pack for your move to the palace. Plus you may have some competition. The number of deaths in the US under age 50 ---- zero.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,309
14 Mar 2020 #395
That is why the deaths of those older than the statistical life span should never by classified is caused by the Chinavirus - even if the dead body has it. If an 80-year-old guy dies and has a headache, nobody sane would report it as death by headache.
Weimarer 8 | 415
14 Mar 2020 #396
@Rich Mazur

They dont die with a head ache. They slowly drown and are fully aware of it. Its a horrible and lonely death. I dont want my grandparents to suffocate.
Ironside 49 | 10,811
14 Mar 2020 #397
the next big thing banned will be PiS and their rule in Poland.

Your lot should be banned first.

Realistically speaking let them play as they do and see how it is going to fan out later.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,309
14 Mar 2020 #398
I know THAT. I was referring only to the fact that the mere presence of the Chinavirus in the dead body should not be viewed as the cause of death and included in the virus mortality stats.
Cargo pants 2 | 694
14 Mar 2020 #399
A courier delivered my package from USA,now I am all well stocked with my Dinty moore beef stew.
johnny reb 28 | 4,814
14 Mar 2020 #400
Flights from Britain and Ireland just went on the travel banned list from entering into the United States.
OP Braveheart16 18 | 235
14 Mar 2020 #401
Gumishu - money that was gained through increased VAT was diverted into 500+ - do you think people with children are not better off....

I agree that children and parents have greatly benefited from the 500+ payments......its just a shame that the rest of the population of Poland will soon realise how inadequate and under resourced the health service is when infections from the virus continue to increase.

Medical help will be like putting a plaster on a gaping wound....absolutely hopeless....yes there are lots of ambulances who can take you quickly to hospital but sadly when you arrive things slow down a little and you realise that whatever help you receive will more than likely be too little too late.....yes children will be happy with additional clothes/holidays etc but did PIS have to use up so much funding when it really should be focusing on what matters to the Polish and that is having a health service to be proud of and one which people have confidence in.
jon357 63 | 15,660
14 Mar 2020 #402
-apparently you can't get in through the door by the driver as usually and there's a tape protecting them from the passengers.

I saw one like that today; a sensible precaution.
mafketis 24 | 9,120
14 Mar 2020 #403
I saw one like that today

As did I, and I agree (especially since you can't buy tickets from them anyway....)
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
14 Mar 2020 #404
But kids who are better fed and have new clothes and bikes and scooters and football boots might be more healthy and that would save money.

Mums who have more time to stay at home thanks to 500+ would have more contact with the kids, know where they are and stop them getting into trouble - that would also save money etc.

There is no doubt that the program has improved living standards and dignity for many of the poorest people in Poland
Weimarer 8 | 415
14 Mar 2020 #405
Some Info, The COVID-19 Virus has a extremly high mortality, well above 2%. Thats 10 -20 times higher than the flu. If you are above 60 years old, mortality rises to 10%. If you are older than 70, mortality is 35%.

The Virus is extremly contagious and also young people with pre-conditions fall victim to it.

The death is slow, horrible and painful. Patients realize that they die. Its like your drown but slower. A doctore in italy said she has a death list and gives her mobile phone to those dieing so they can video chat one last time with their families.

And no, to say it hits only old and sick is unacceptable. We have to respect our people.

In Italy doctors reached the status where they have to do the triage, to decide like in war who they can help and who not.

Germany has one of the best medical systems in the world (some say ours is too big) but its still functional and keeps number of deaths very low. Breathig machines can help alot and we have tenthousands of those.

The biggest medical corporations who build that stuff are German and they plan to ban export
johnny reb 28 | 4,814
14 Mar 2020 #406
And no, to say it hits only old and sick is unacceptable.

In the U.S., of the cases for which there is data, only one person who died was in their 40s, while two people died in their 50s.

Seven people were in their 60s, nine people in their 70s, 13 people in their 80s and 10 people were in their 90s.
This means the vast majority of deaths so far are among people older than 70, which matches roughly with data emerging from Italy, China and other countries hard hit by the Chinavirus.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,219
14 Mar 2020 #407
extremly high mortality, well above 2%

WHO say 3.4% Italy is at 6% scary heh
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,309
14 Mar 2020 #408
The COVID-19 Virus has a extremely high mortality, well above 2%.

That 2% is a ratio of two numbers: dead and infected. We know the dead. We don't know the number of infected. To know it, you would have to test the entire country.

It also matters where they live. Nursing homes are just one step from hell. Living alone and staying home is a different mater.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
14 Mar 2020 #409
They might make those machines in Germany but I bet half the sub components and assembly are done In Poland Czech and Hungary so it won't be as simple as banning exports.
jon357 63 | 15,660
14 Mar 2020 #410
WHO say 3.4% Italy is at 6% scary heh

And of course it may yet rise; this virus is completely new.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,219
14 Mar 2020 #411
It has also been proven that the virus has mutated at least once, just think if grows in power, I might end up alone in a Palace after all ...
jon357 63 | 15,660
14 Mar 2020 #412
There's a nice one down the road from me. Only an elderly caretaker living there...
Paulwiz 1 | 70
14 Mar 2020 #413
The next thing we will see is the number of confirmed cases will skyrocket. But ... Is that because more people are infected or because we have more testing kits? I don't know how we will tell.
Joker 2 | 1,411
14 Mar 2020 #414
We only talk in Polish, though we both obviously have foreign accents; all week I've noticed odd looks

There is obviously a different reason then, ppl are giving you and your partner dirty looks besides your foreign accents?

I am all well stocked with my Dinty moore beef stew.

Thats what you eat when youre down to your last dollar, might as well order some Spam for hors d oeuvres.. It cant be that bad over there? I hope you purchased some crackers and a 6 pack of beer to wash it all

Just kidding. I used to eat DM when I was going to school. Ramen noodles too:)

Nursing homes are just one step from hell.

I rather end it all before being trapped in a nursing home.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,309
14 Mar 2020 #415
I don't know how we will tell.

Another don't know...How will we know that this thing is over? What will have to happen to lift the bans? Until the last person is tested and found OK? If so, what about China? Are we ever going to let them in?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,640
14 Mar 2020 #416
Poland closed borders to foreigners - only citizens and residents can get in. Im liking coronavirus more and more.

Naturally the cucked countries of w europe havent followed suit. The tens of thousands of turd worlders in turkey trying to get to germanistan so they can join their brethren in raping and pillaging will undoubtedly get in.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,547
14 Mar 2020 #417
Brandenburg is negotiating with Poland about the tomorrow starting border closure. It's about medical and nursing staff and people working in the border region. Poland already accepted certain exceptions, it is said.
Joker 2 | 1,411
14 Mar 2020 #418
China? Are we ever going to let them in?

They should be punished somehow for being the filthy pigs of the human race and causing the rest of the world such strife!

Its not the first time they unleashed a horrible virus upon us!
jon357 63 | 15,660
14 Mar 2020 #419
Is that because more people are infected

Probably; it's hard to measure except statistically, and of course there are knock-on effects with any strain on the Polish government's Health Service complicating matters.
14 Mar 2020 #420
It will be alright. Poland reacted on time. On Monday state of emergency will most likely be proclaimed, travelling limited, and zones of safety drawn. We are gradually taking Italian measures of safety with only a fraction of their number of infected people, and "only" three deaths.

Of course, there are still retards who think that a family trip to Zakopane is a good idea...

... but state of emergency, and high fines, will put an end to that kind of idiocy.

Sit at home, people. Take it easy. Sleep well and sleep a lot. Spend time with your family. Pray, and be of good spirit.

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