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Coronavirus in Poland


Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,081
Yeah the whole dual citizenship thing is kind of weird in Poland... from my understanding if you fly in on a US passport as a dual citizen that's fine but you can't stay for more than 90 days, if you fly in for more than 90 days you either need to get a visa if on US or another passport or use your Polish one. Of course I'm sure covid has impacted those rules. It says that Polish citizens, family members, etc. can fly in direct but only from Illinois and New York airports, but it looks like quarantine period is 10 days... Idk if my family in UK will even be able to come, at least not on a direct flight, since it states Poland isn't letting any aircraft from UK come in.

The Polish consulate hasn't been any help. They don't even answer the phone. Totally useless... I expected that though from past experiences with them.
Cargo pants 2 | 865
28 Dec 2020 #4,082
you either need to get a visa if

Or you can do visa runs by crossing the border to Ukraine,its also mentioned on Polish Embassy website,but you cant go to any other country except Polandas Polish govt has some treaty with US govt.

For UK residents Polish govt has exemption for emergency so may be they can qualify without quarentine.All main airports in Germany have free rapid testings(1/2 hr results) courtsey Lufthansa what I am flying.But dont fly direct change somewhere in the EU,this time I think I am changing in Berlin.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
28 Dec 2020 #4,083
It's all in the immune system.

And it is not all about just the deaths, it's about the after effects that last a life time.
I had Covid nine months ago and am labeled a "Long Hauler". (Google it)
I am still having problems.
You would shutter to see all the scar tissue in my lung x-rays.

msn.com/en-us/health/medical/11-signs-youve-already-had-covid-19/ss-BB1bedag?ocid=msedgdhp&li=BBnb7Kz#image=1

So it's not just all about the people who die from it.
AND my immune system was excellent before I got it which probably saved my life.
OP Braveheart16 18 | 253
28 Dec 2020 #4,084
Dirk diggler - My grandpa died over the weekend.....

I am very sorry to hear about your grandpa.....it is difficult at the present time to attend funerals or indeed hospital beds to see loved ones who have Covid...but it would seem that the logic to restrict contact is to prevent the spread of Covid as difficult as it may seem.... extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary action and for many it has prevented them from attending funerals and mixing with others....
Novichok - | 2,142
28 Dec 2020 #4,085
Soon the global mafia will require dead people to wear masks and many will comply.
Just remember that you heard this prediction here first and from me - the PF chief visionary.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
29 Dec 2020 #4,086
The World Health Organization is warning about the potential rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhea, also known as "super gonorrhea", due to overuse of antibiotics during the COVID pandemic.

So what would you say is more deadly, the virus or the clap ?
OP Braveheart16 18 | 253
29 Dec 2020 #4,087
johnny reb - I had Covid nine months ago and am labeled a "Long Hauler". (Google it)
I am still having problems.

'Long Covid' is a real medical problem for people who caught the virus, and can lead to breathlessness, lack of energy restricting walking etc, and general problems with health. Hope you get better soon. This serves as a warning for people to take action to avoid catching this virus, wearing masks, distancing yourself from others, washing hands are of course the best methods.... some people may believe they will never catch it or that because they are young the effects won't be as bad and will soon recover, but although they may not die they could end up with 'long Covid'.
Lenka 3 | 2,577
29 Dec 2020 #4,088
This serves as a warning for people to take action to avoid catching this virus,

What is a warning to me is lack of access to doctors for non covid patients, students falling behind because they can't cope with remote learning, disabled people that lost access to rehab, abused kids that noone helps
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
29 Dec 2020 #4,089
@Lenka
How about sky rocketing instances of mental illness due to isolation and lack of socialization? Stunted socialization growth for children? Terrible education numbers followed up by the inevitable coverup with pushing students through the system when they didnt learn the material?

Oh, and the economy bleeding jobs, crushing small business, the slowly appearing cracks in the metro residential real estate markets.

But lets keep those churches open, filled to capacity, and pray for help! LMAO
Lenka 3 | 2,577
29 Dec 2020 #4,090
sky rocketing instances of mental illness due to isolation and lack of socialization?

But lets keep those churches open, filled to capacity, and pray for help! LMAO

Lack of logic here. You can't complain about people mental state and criticize places of worship being open. Prayer helps believers keep sane. And if I remember there is a limit.

Btw, I'm an atheist so no bias here
OP Braveheart16 18 | 253
29 Dec 2020 #4,091
I agree with both Lenka and PolAmKrakow.....there are many other related problems which need to be dealt with in tandem with Covid....but must say that the virus is the root of the problem.....if Covid is contained and then related problems will improve, but will need some considerable time to be resolved. Again the health service is the key to all of this...sadly very little has been done to provide meaningful funding and support for the health service in recent years due to the government doing things on the cheap....they need to see the bigger picture....
Lenka 3 | 2,577
29 Dec 2020 #4,092
Looking at the bigger picture makes me think the cure is worse than the disease
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
29 Dec 2020 #4,093
@Lenka
The majority of people attending mass are not doing so to maintain or keep a grip on mental health. The vast majority are simply very hard core believers. Nothing wrong with going to mass, believing or not believing. But to my knowledge there is no limit on people attending in this round of lockdown. If a restaurant cant be open and serve socially distanced people outdoors, how is it even remotely sensical to allow even socially distanced people to be indoors together for an hour?

This government is hilarious. Say no to all the demonstrators, but line up hundreds of police with locked arms in front of JK house? Hilarious.
Joker 2 | 1,787
29 Dec 2020 #4,094
Minnesota lawmakers say coronavirus deaths could be inflated by 40% after reviewing death certificates...
washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-certificates-minnesota-inflated

They are going to ask Trump for a full audit of all 50 States. The numbers have been inflated to fulfill their lefty agenda and profit off the virus. If its happening in the USA you can bet the libtards in Europe are doing the same.
mafketis 24 | 9,385
29 Dec 2020 #4,095
In other news, the "vaccine" doesn't seem to be a vaccine at all since it doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, or passing it on to others and after you get it you're still supposed to mask up and hunker down at home like an agoraphobic hobbit....

Apparently after 100% of everyone gets the vaccine it will work...

Anyone still believing this crap is stupid or very, very, very naive....

smh.com.au/world/europe/who-warns-vaccinated-travellers-could-still-need-to-be-quarantined-20201229-p56qk3.html
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
29 Dec 2020 #4,096
Thanks Braveheart16 for your understanding.
I caught my virus back in March of this year BEFORE the warnings came out.
At that time Trump was saying it was no worse than the flu.
I went to a large sporting even where there was a guy coughing very loud and hard.
I immediately got up and moved after exchanging some words about telling him to go home that he was sick.
Exactly three days later, I started coughing followed by a headache from hell.
I knew I had it and called the local hospital and told them I suspected it and was coming in.
I was told, "DO NOT COME HERE WITH IT ! wait a couple of days and come in to be tested".
I told them that I was very sick with flu like symptoms and needed help as I was very sick.
Two weeks later they called me and ask how I was doing.
I said, "oh, johnny died" and I hung up.
That was nine months ago and I still have a dry cough and a few other symptoms that have been mentioned.
The x-rays of my lungs look like I have long slivers of glass in them from so much scar tissue.
This sht isn't funny folks so take it serious as it effects everyone different.
Unfortunately I may be dealing with "Long Haulers" for the rest of my life.
Why isn't Trump suing China for reparation for ruining my life ?
I should be awarded at least 5 million in cash.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
29 Dec 2020 #4,097
vaccine

If I have to take a vaccine, I'm take the Russian one. Unlike the Pfizer and Moderna ones it's not an RNA vaccine and is the same kind of "dead vector" type that you get as a kid.

of glass in them from so much scar tissue.

Damn dude that sucks man sorry to hear. Is there any therapies you can take to improve your lungs?
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
29 Dec 2020 #4,098
Dirk, I have been to five different doctors now and they have all told me the same pat answer when I throw questions at them about that.

"We don't know yet."
The damage is done so I am sure I will have to live with it the rest of my shortened life.
I am scared as hell to get an e.k.g. and a M.R.I. of my heart to see if it has been damaged too.

So in short, I am S.O.L. in my life time.
Just think of all the money Medicare, pensions and the rest of the benny's that will not have to be paid out for old aged people.

The government and healthcare system is getting rich off Covid not to mention the 'Control' factor over societies.
Joker 2 | 1,787
29 Dec 2020 #4,099
The government and healthcare system is getting rich off Covid

Thats why they inflate the ChinaVirus numbers.

the "policies that the governors around this country have put in place" use COVID-19 death certificate data "to drive the program."
westernjournal.com/mn-senator-physician-blows-whistle-bizarre-non-covid-types-deaths-blamed-covid/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2020-12-21&utm_campaign=manualpost

Of course, you wont hear any info from the msm as they glorify that douchebag Fauci.

I caught my virus back in March of this year BEFORE the warnings came out

I had it last May, a little cough and 100F fever for 3-4 days and it was over. FU China!!
Novichok - | 2,142
29 Dec 2020 #4,100
When Poland and Bolivia have the same deaths per million numbers at about 750, it simply says that the amount of money spent and how advanced the health delivery system is means nothing.

That's the statistics. Individually, nobody wants to be a statistic, but policies should never be based on individual tragedies and sob stories.
That 750 also means it's not a pandemic. Pandemics kill more than .075% of the population in almost a year.

More statistics...This one is from the UK but it applies everywhere - Poland included. Quoting from dailymail.com:

Overweight people are more than three times as likely to die of Covid-19 than those of healthy weight, Public Health England report found
Figures show there were 876,000 admissions last year alone linked to obesity.


Translation: Fatsos pig out, f**k up their immune system, and have a jolly good time while at it. Now, healthy people are not allowed to go to work to protect the fatsos.

Somewhere, on a planet called Viranius, it makes perfect sense.
kondzior 12 | 1,200
30 Dec 2020 #4,101
When people die from heart attakcs, cancers, strokes, diabetes, old age, or any combination of those, but tested positive for covid19, apparently they are considered dead by covid19.

BUT, if they get vaccinated and then after 2 hours die, they say it was unrelated to the vaccine and they just had pre-existing conditions/old age. It is astounding that we haven't lynched them yet.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
30 Dec 2020 #4,102
That stuff is from July - while obesity has an effect it is more like a 40 percent extra risk, not 3x.

If you don't want to take the vaccine that's fine - it's not mandatory
kondzior 12 | 1,200
30 Dec 2020 #4,103
The British Virus has been detected in Colarado! Since neither American vaccine has been tested against the British strain, there's no guarantee that the vaccines will even work since the British Virus would have been happily spreading for some time already. All that money might have just gone down the drain. Get ready for more lock downs!

Well obviously it has been everywhere since November at least. For sure the leaders of the UK and EU countries must have known this, and all the travel chaos was just to show how far they're willing to go. The point is to keep everyone cowering at home until the vaccines can be deployed to large numbers of people who don't actually need them.
mafketis 24 | 9,385
30 Dec 2020 #4,104
The point is

The point of the non-vaccines is Health Theater to prolong the lockdowns and destruction of the economy - if people think there's a light at the end of the tunnel they can be convinced to be locked up for a few months more and then when it's "discovered" the vaccines don't work then a whole new fresh round of destruction....
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
30 Dec 2020 #4,105
If you don't want to take the vaccine that's fine - it's not mandatory

Double edged sword cms.
The vaccine DOES NOT prevent you from getting ot spreading Covid.
It just prevents you from ending up in a hospital on a ventilator that killed so many.
Bet me that Bill Gates and the rest of the Bilderberg's, who want to depopulate the world, haven't already been vaccinated.

the vaccines don't work then a whole new fresh round of destruction....

Exactly maf, now that THEY have seen how well this has worked with the camels nose in the tent, it will never stop in our life time.

It's all about CONTROL
Independence Criminalized !
Novichok - | 2,142
30 Dec 2020 #4,106
when it's "discovered" the vaccines don't work then a whole new fresh round of destruction....

1. What would be the ruling mafia's purpose of "destruction"? Transfer of wealth? They already own half. Control? To what effect? Just to enjoy watching people suffer? Just asking...

I think the explanation is a lot simpler: politicians are the bottom useless scum and below prostitutes, pimps, and drug peddlers. They are just scared of being accused that they did nothing and people died. So they use all the power they were given to prevent this unpleasant event.

2. If the millions are "destroyed" by the lockdowns, they deserve it. That's what Darwin said. There are not enough cops and jails to arrest and jail a country. Passivity has consequences.

The dynamic of masses being controlled by a few is an amazing thing to watch and is based on the fear of being the first one arrested or shot.
kondzior 12 | 1,200
30 Dec 2020 #4,107
What would be the ruling mafia's purpose of "destruction"?

Here is a mainstream TV channel reporting about the dystopian "Great Reset":

youtu.be/GeykREAlYSg

While TIME magazine and others celebrate it as the solution to our problems:

reset

It is being pushed by the World Economic Forum in cooperation with the UN and assorted oligarchs:
weforum.org/great-reset/

TL;DR: Crony capitalists want to save us from crony capitalism by introducing... a totalitarian dystopia.
mafketis 24 | 9,385
30 Dec 2020 #4,108
What would be the ruling mafia's purpose of "destruction"? Transfer of wealth? They already own half

They want the other half too....

Control?

It's about a new constitutional order (broadly understood) they want to change the world order the same way that WWI changed the world order... (Phillip Bobbit is a good place to understand the historical context).

The new order envisioned is roughly: governments disengage from things like law enforcement (defund the police!) and public educaiton (see online 'learning').

The population is turned into worker bees (amazon employees) many with no real rights 'undocumented workers') and the rest are drugged up (see opiate addiction in the US) and dumbed down (see #disrupttexts) and given a pittance to live (UBI) while the elites status ***** among themselves as they compete to see who can get the most of the UBI into their own pockets... (see amazon/facebook/video games etc)

Identity politics ("decolonize STEM") will help keep the population fragmented and keep ethno-racial tensions on a low boil... (BLM)

It's all out in the open and some of them (Schwab, Thunberg, Kendri) are pretty open about it.

You can choose to look or not but it's all in plain view....
Novichok - | 2,142
30 Dec 2020 #4,109
As sick and disgusting as what you described is, Earth resources being finite, some global management is eventually going to be needed. Add to this the 7 billion and growing, and the future of humanity is bleak.

As opposed to wars where all the dying is done by the young, at least this time half of the dead are over 80, which is bad for the dead, but a relief to retirement funds and the health delivery system. No, I do not wish anyone dead. Just channeling Darwin...
kondzior 12 | 1,200
30 Dec 2020 #4,110
Add to this the 7 billion and growing, and the future of humanity is bleak.

Sure, sure. Overpopulation. This is why lefists like to argue babies aren't really human and that there's nothing wrong in killing them. Also, feminists like to pis on stage because voting is important to women. Riiiiiight.


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