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Coronavirus in Poland


chrisshrew - | 16
26 Dec 2020 #4,051
The good thing now is that now there's a vaccine there should also be concreate plan of both vaccination and removing of restrictions. In the short term it will be interesting to see how long the flight ban will last and when it ends how long mandatory quarantining will continue beyond this. Hopefully if they both get extended then it's not by more than a few weeks.

My hunch is that once the vaccine gets given to those in hospitals and care homes, which if effectively managed should be complete by early spring at the absolute latest, then extreme measures like lockdowns will come to an end. Perhaps masks and social distancing may have to continue. maybe late Spring, until the most vulnerable have also had it. However by the time it gets as far as those who want it but aren't particularly at risk life has to be more or less completely back to normal.
Crow 146 | 9,122
26 Dec 2020 #4,052
Perhaps masks and social distancing may have to continue. maybe late Spring

Nothing depend on vaccine but on desired effects of psycho-logistic re-programming.

or less completely back to normal

Don`t search for logic when you don`t have enough information. Or deep insight.
kondzior 12 | 1,200
26 Dec 2020 #4,053
Nothing depend on vaccine but on desired effects of psycho-logistic re-programming.

Yeah, dystopian future is right here, starts today.
LIVE IN THE POD. EAT BUGS. RENT YOUR VIDEOS. BICYCLE YOUR WAY AROUND THE TOWN. DO NOT FLY. DO NOT TRAVEL. DO NOT HAVE A FAMILY. DO NOT SOCIALIZE.

It is really frightening how bold and open they are about all this. Don Colacho was prophetic when he ironically said that the future of the west was shaping up to be "slavery without masters".
Novichok - | 2,142
26 Dec 2020 #4,054
I bet youre sorry you asked that question now.lol

Actually, I am not. From now on, I will ask for an explanation of every bs claim until I get them trained to cut that kind of crap out.

It is really frightening how bold and open they are about all this

Another great post.

the future of the west was shaping up to be "slavery without masters".

...where the slaves are the enforcers and the wardens. Those masks worn in empty parks and in cars tell all.
OP Braveheart16 18 | 253
27 Dec 2020 #4,055
kondzior - Yeah, dystopian future is right here, starts today.....LIVE IN THE POD. EAT BUGS....

What on earth are you talking about? This thread is about Covid in Poland....
Crow 146 | 9,122
27 Dec 2020 #4,056
Covid vaccine could be (could be) sugar water with miraculous potentials. Considering all political aspects of Covid, truly, could be.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
27 Dec 2020 #4,057
COVID making getting into and out of EU difficult. Just had 5 employees held up at the border and all documents thoroughly examined before being readmitted. The lockdown tomorrow has made it difficult even with the correct documents.
Atch 17 | 3,427
27 Dec 2020 #4,058
Here is the information on the vaccination schedule for Poland:

The first vaccinations against COVID-19 are planned in Poland on December 27.
The approval of the COVID-19 vaccine is subject to approval by the European Commission (of the European Union).

This means that the vaccination registration process is likely to start in the first quarter of 2021.

Vaccines will be free.

Vaccinations will be voluntary.

The order of vaccinations:

PHASE 0:
Healthcare workers.

PHASE 1:
Residents of social welfare homes and care and treatment facilities.
Seniors 60+, starting with the oldest people (with priority for those who are professionally active and for people with comorbidities).

Police and fire brigade officers, soldiers.

Employees of the education sector.

PHASE 2:
People under 60 years of age with chronic conditions that increase the risk of severe COVID-19.
Key professional groups: employees of the critical infrastructure sectors, public transport, officials directly involved in combating the epidemic (e.g. employees of epidemiological and sanitary stations).

PHASE 3:

Entrepreneurs and employees in business sectors closed due to the coronavirus pandemic.

People over 18 who do not belong to any of the above groups.

In accordance with the above phases, also foreigners (persons with the right to permanent or temporary residence) will be vaccinated.

Privileges for the vaccinated person:

Information on vaccination will be stored in a special system and will allow for vaccination verification (including a QR code that will allow you to quickly confirm the vaccination).

Vaccinated people will be able to use public health services without additional testing.
Vaccinated people will not count towards the limits on social events.
Vaccinated people will not have to be quarantined if they come into contact with someone infected with the coronavirus.
The government will consider the possibility of introducing further solutions exempting the vaccinated persons from selected restrictions.

Poland has purchased the vaccines under the European Union agreement to establish a common mechanism for the advance purchase of vaccines. The size of orders is proportional to the number of inhabitants. The delivery schedule is the same for all countries (adequate to the size). Poland decided to join five agreements: Astra Zeneca, Janssen Pharmaceutica NV/Johnson&Johnson, Pfizer/BioNTech, CureVac, Moderna.

The total number of doses purchased: 62.06 million. As the vaccine requires two doses, that's enough to vaccinate around three quarters of the population.
johnny reb 28 | 5,325
27 Dec 2020 #4,059
Here is the information on the vaccination schedule for Poland:

I didn't see where the inmates in Correction Facilities that are locked in confined areas were mentioned.
They are humans that are 'forced' into no social distancing.
Crow 146 | 9,122
27 Dec 2020 #4,060
God question plemeniti brate johnny.

What about male and female prostitutes, LGBT, clergy, pedophiles, mentaly ill people, too? Not a word on them. Not to speak of wild and domestic animals that also deserve vaccine. I feel great solidarity with birds, also.
kondzior 12 | 1,200
27 Dec 2020 #4,061
What on earth are you talking about?

Reminder that the word lockdown is a prison/jail term.
They were mocking us right from the getgo. Just listen to their words a little more closely. Not just one ear in, one ear out. Now it's CASES. Not deaths. Also listen to what they DON'T say. They never said anything about giving us any freedoms back.

YOU ONLY HAD TO LISTEN!
johnny reb 28 | 5,325
27 Dec 2020 #4,062
You are very astute individual, kondzior.
Novichok - | 2,142
27 Dec 2020 #4,063
Now it's CASES. Not deaths.

Because "cases" are scarier by the numbers than deaths. It serves the global mafia very well - Poland included - since fear is even more contagious than the virus; it spreads by the internet - 6000 miles in less than a second.

Even the Chinese virus cann't match that.
Crow 146 | 9,122
27 Dec 2020 #4,064
@Novichok, how do we know its a Chinese virus?
Novichok - | 2,142
27 Dec 2020 #4,065
Because every crap that invades the civilized world - virus included - comes from that hellhole.
Crow 146 | 9,122
27 Dec 2020 #4,066
That civilized world you speak of, don't need an outside enemy, considering how stubbornly works against itself.
johnny reb 28 | 5,325
28 Dec 2020 #4,067
Why is our government dragging it's feet in the distribution of the vaccine ?
Dr. Fauci Warns the "Worst is Still to Come" !
Then get our military home and start protecting OUR people by helping distribute and vaccinating our citizens.
Isn't that what Trump said, "America first !"

Because "cases" are scarier by the numbers than deaths.

Go tell that to San Diego, alone, where there is a person dying every ten minutes from the virus, Genius.
Joker 2 | 1,787
28 Dec 2020 #4,068
Why is our government dragging it's feet in the distribution of the vaccine ?

AOC and the BV were some hypocrites to first receive Trumps evil vaccine after they claim they never would. How did they get to go first, they jumped in front of the elderly line?

Go tell that to San Diego, alone, where there is a person dying every ten minutes from the virus,

In Illinois, car crash victims are concerned covid ( ChinaVirus) deaths. Every death for that matter gets listed as Covid these days. I wonder if the same ppl who count these deaths are the same ppl that counted the election results?

Reminder that the word lockdown is a prison/jail term.

Its very convenient they have found a new strain. Now they can use this to keep control, destroy small businesses and prop up big corporations.

Do you like your minimum wage job at Walmart? Guess what, you can keep it! The Chinese are playing the world like a fiddle bc they know the PC libtards are weak and can easily be manipulated.

The Chinks got what they wanted Joe Biden who always had and inept foreign policy and is beholden to these Commies.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,069
Go tell that to San Diego, alone, where there is a person dying every ten minutes from the virus, Genius.

And I bet 99% of them were seniors and/or people with severe health problems. The UK found that out of the tens of thousands of deaths only 44 died solely of covid under 40 and 377 under 60, meaning those with no other health conditions.



Novichok - | 2,142
28 Dec 2020 #4,070
deaths only 44 died solely of covid under 40 and 377 under 60

They should never count those who were older than the life span. And, like you said, only the healthy.
Even counting the way they do now, these death numbers are ridiculously low per population. Poland - .07%, US - .1%, Peru - .1% At .1%, it is not a pandemic.

I included Peru - a s**thole compared to Poland and the US - to show that all those ventilators and super expensive healthcare are worth nothing in the war with the virus.

It's all in the immune system. The problem is that every drunk, every smoker, every drug addict, every fatso thinks they are made of stainless steel and will live forever.

BTW, life span in Poland - 78, US - 78, Peru - 76. No difference.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,071
Even if you count all the seniors, all the people with severe health problems, etc. there's still a less than 1% mortality rate for people who catch covid. It's a scam that's all it is. It's an excuse to completely transform industrialized societies and economies. I don't even want to know how much cash was printed this year.
Novichok - | 2,142
28 Dec 2020 #4,072
It's an excuse to completely transform society.

My bigger problem is that the "society" - which means mindless morons - happily submits and hops along. When I ask random people why they wear a mask outside, it's always "to feel safe". One day, we will have a picture of one of them in Webster under Moron.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,073
@Novichok

If that was just them wearing their masks in their cars and in some park or whatever I'd say fine whatever it's your decision, your business. What's worse is when they freak out when someone that's like 10 feet away from them and in an outdoor space isn't wearing a mask.

I don't view it as a mask, it's really more of a muzzle.

My grandpa died over the weekend. 83 years old. And now I'll have to jump through a bunch of hoops just to go to the funeral...
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Dec 2020 #4,074
Not in Poland - the rate of deaths over official cases is much more alarming. Somewhere around 4 percent in this second wave. Of course neither figure is robaboy correct but it's all we have to go on.

Sorry about your dziadek - sucks that you cannot say goodbye properly.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,075
Yeah Poland got hit exceptionally hard in terms of % of the population. 1.2 million means that basically one out of 33 people had/has it. But the death rate is about the same - out of 1.2 million people 27,000 died which is about 2%, around the same 1-2% range as the US 333k dead out of 19.2 mil cases

and thanks for that. we're kind of scrambling now trying to figure out how to plan the funeral because its not just me who wants to come but also family from UK which means well all likely have to quarantine which means funeral will likely have to be in 1-2 weeks, but we have to also figure out what to do with the body in th emeantime
Cargo pants 2 | 865
28 Dec 2020 #4,076
And now I'll have to jump through a bunch of hoops just to go to the funeral.

Sorry to hear that man,my condolences.You can easily fly to Poland with no quarantine if you change flights in the EU.I will be there next week too in Warsaw.
Novichok - | 2,142
28 Dec 2020 #4,077
Dead to cases is nonsense. The only relevant data is dead to ALL the cases - known plus undetected.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
28 Dec 2020 #4,078
You can easily fly to Poland with no quarantine if you change flights in the EU

Thanks dude. I'm assuming I'd have to fly in on a PL passport then right?
mafketis 24 | 9,385
28 Dec 2020 #4,079
IINM the law is that holders of Polish passports have to use them when entering or leaving the country... enforcement is probably not super strict though....
Cargo pants 2 | 865
28 Dec 2020 #4,080
I'm assuming I'd have to fly in on a PL passport then right?

Yes,and they have gone very strict now.If you dont have it Polish embassy can issue you an emergency one.I know someone who was fined 400pln while coming in on US passport and that was 2/3 years back,but she was living in Poland.They always ask my wife for both passports when she leaves Poland and never stamp Polish passports too.


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