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kondzior 12 | 1,200
4 Dec 2020 #3,901
I didn't see any specific thing about fertility

... Several vaccine candidates are expected to induce the formation of humoral antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. Syncytin-1, which is derived from human endogenous retroviruses (HERV) and is responsible for the development of a placenta in mammals and humans and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy, is also found in homologous form in the spike proteins of SARS viruses. There is no indication whether antibodies against spike proteins of SARS viruses would also act like anti-Syncytin-1 antibodies.However, if this were to be the case this would then also prevent the formation of a placenta which would result in vaccinated women essentially becoming infertile. To my knowledge, Pfizer/BioNTech has yet to release any samples of written materials provided to patients, so it is unclear what, if any, information regarding (potential) fertility-specific risks caused by antibodies is included...

source:
2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DEC2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf

For the record, this is the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research (Dr. Yeadon) and chair of the Council of Europe Health Committee (Dr. Wodarg). Smoking gun right there. Except them to be vilified and demonized.
OP Braveheart16 18 | 254
5 Dec 2020 #3,902
It would seem, perhaps no surprise, that the Covid statistics since the beginning of the pandemic have been wrong and I understand that a 19 year old has analysed all figures and has produced a more accurate analysis which suggests that the figures of infection/deaths rates are higher....so with the run up to Christmas hopefully people will be extra careful not to mix and to distance themselves.....the consequences of not adhering to the rules/law will of course push the infection rate up further and delay any chance of getting back to normal....
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
6 Dec 2020 #3,903
@Crow
@Vesko Vukovic
@tygrys

All of you need serious psychiatric intervention. Trumps own people say no fraud took place. Get a grip. He lost because he suppressed his own mail in voting, that and he is an idiot at handling the china flu. The working class idiots chose a multi millionaire as their champion and he doesnt even know who they are.

Now poor Poland will have to deal with Biden a person seriously educated on foreign affairs, and JK just met a stone wall. Dont get me wrong, I dont like Biden either. He is going to crush the economy and blow the debt to unbelievable heights.

Thankfully though the China flu vaccine will make all those republicans who own the stock in those companies even more wealthy. Who is the NWO?
Crow 146 | 9,129
6 Dec 2020 #3,904
All of you need serious psychiatric intervention.

Well, I do feel like a superman.

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Thankfully though the China flu vaccine

I`ll take Russian vaccine. At least, should be safe from anti-Slavic genetic attack.
Crnogorac3 2 | 361
6 Dec 2020 #3,905
I`ll take Russian vaccine.

Let Putin, his family & party members take it first, then I would consider it.
Crow 146 | 9,129
6 Dec 2020 #3,906
Yes, after them. And how would you know they took it? How would you know anything?

I operates with minimum of information. Enough to know its Russian and enough that Serbia`s President confirms. I count only on fact that Russians have less reasons to play games with Slavic genome then other players. Plus, Russians are less corporate oriented. Some semblance of collective responsibility and care have to exist.

After all, how things stand Chinese have cure for virus anyway and they have to share it with Russians. No jokes here. So, Russian vaccine have to work and have minimal negative effects. See?

For sure you don`t wish to take Chinese vaccine and become Mongoloid Chinese or you won`t for sure dare take some western European or USA vaccine and risk to became Chocolate Latino.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
7 Dec 2020 #3,907
Now poor Poland will have to deal with Biden a person seriously educated on foreign affairs, and JK just met a stone wall.

Too bad he can't even tell what day it is or what city he's in without a teleprompter.

Let Putin, his family & party members take it first, then I would consider it.

Yup. I would only consider taking the vaccine if the people who are pushing it the most receive it first and have no side effects for at least a year. Otherwise, they can f off. I read this morning that one of the UK royal's took the vaccine.
Roibeard79 2 | 42
7 Dec 2020 #3,908
I read this morning that one of the UK royal's took the vaccine

No one has had a vaccine yet, I believe first one so tomorrow.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
7 Dec 2020 #3,909
Now this is what I like to see!!!

nytimes.com/2020/12/06/us/politics/anti-vax-scientist-senate-hearing.html
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
8 Dec 2020 #3,910
@Dirk diggler "Too bad he can't even tell what day it is or what city he's in without a teleprompter."
Are you talking about JK or Biden? LMAO Both should be in sanitarium knitting socks.
Meanwhile numbers of positive tests, as well as test performed numbers continue to drop in Poland. Moving closer to January restrictions being lifted.
Atch 17 | 3,429
8 Dec 2020 #3,911
No one has had a vaccine yet, I believe first one so tomorrow.

And indeed, the first person in the world to get the vaccine outside of the trials is a fine Irish woman :)) Margaret Keenan aged 91, living in the UK, vaccinated this morning at 6.45am UK time. What a lady - former jewellery shop assistant, only retired four years ago. I wish her the best, God bless her.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
8 Dec 2020 #3,912
Some vaccine news - Poland can vaccinate 180k people a week, based on existing vaccination points.

It's a start but not impressive and at that rate it will take 4 years to vaccinate everyone

If they could have 1000 vaccine points doing a shot every 5 mins for 14 hours a day, working weekends too it would be 1.1 million a week which sounds more like it

For comparison Rossmann serves almost 3 million customers per week
mafketis 24 | 9,387
8 Dec 2020 #3,913
the first person in the world to get the vaccine outside of the trials is a fine Irish woman :))

So... this means if it backfires and causes a worse disease that disease will be known as the "Fine Irish Flu", agreed?
Atch 17 | 3,429
8 Dec 2020 #3,914
Fair enough :)) I wouldn't take the vaccine myself, I must say, but I might want to if I were elderly or in the vulnerable category. I'm not sure if I would, but I might. Why do you think it will cause a worse disease?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
8 Dec 2020 #3,915
Because it's an unproven RNA vaccine - there's no telling what the side effects might be. You could be fine, you could end up infertile, you could grow a tail - no one knows... Fact is even proven vaccines like the flu vaccine or MMR have caused a lot of side effects, some of them permanent and those aren't even RNA type vaccines. This is a totally novel vaccine type that literally hijacks your DNA and tricks it into not accepting covid virus proteins.

But please everyone, take the vaccine. Tell all your family and friends to take the vaccine. Give it to your dogs, your cats, your grandma - poke your neighbors in the interest of "science." My Moderna stock needs to go higher - already +5% today and I just woke up =D Please get the vaccine and shame everyone who refuses - I need a 3rd Mercedes in the driveway
mafketis 24 | 9,387
8 Dec 2020 #3,916
why do you think it will cause a worse disease?

I don't. I think the worst case scenario is that it (and the other vaccines being rolled out) are fundamentally placebos... People everywhere are sick of the virus, it's served some of its purposes (expanding Chinese soft power, making Trump lose the election) and they need to get it off stage without admitting how much of the scare mongering about it was essentially made up and/or fanned by China.

On the other hand those who have profited most from the lockdowns (bezos, zuckerberg et al) might want to keep it around a while and the Klaus Schwabs of the world aren't going to let go of their ideas to re-shape society so easily...

The vaccines rolling out at more or less the same time just seems a bit.... theatric, like someone is making a big show.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
8 Dec 2020 #3,917
Margaret Keenan aged 91, living in the UK, vaccinated this morning at 6.45am UK time. What a lady

If I were 91 I would have told them to give mine to a child with COPD.

My Moderna stock needs to go higher - already +5% today and I just woke up =D

Closer to 6% now Dirk.
When life becomes all lemons, make lemonade.
I bought mine (MRNA) last month when it was around $80 a share and it has already doubled since. = D plus :-)
kondzior 12 | 1,200
8 Dec 2020 #3,918
Remember Sweden and the swine-flu vaccine? Hundreds of young people had their lifes destroyed due to narcolepsy caused by the vaccine together with genetic predisposition. Fock that sh!t.

Look, I think vaccines are one of the great achievements of medicine and a blessing for humanity. Polio is almost eradicated. We can save people from the nightmarish disease that is rabies. Good stuff. But I'm not going to be a beta tester for one. I'm not in the risk group so the benefits of potentially avoiding COVID do not outweigh the risks associated with a new and barely tested medicine.
Novichok - | 2,149
8 Dec 2020 #3,919
If Germany is still in the atonement mood, they should Mengele their prisoners.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
8 Dec 2020 #3,920
I bought mine (MRNA) last month when it was around $80 a share and it has already doubled since. = D plus :-)

Yeah I got mine like 3 weeks ago. I wish I would've bought into Pfizer and Novartis too though. I bought Stericycle also thinking it'd do well during the covid peak but it's been a dud. I'm monitoring MRNA several times a day but at this rate I'm probably going to sell sometime next week and take a nice long trip to Mexico. I don't know, some people are crying about losing everything and being unable to buy food or pay rent but I think they're just failing to adapt and change.

Stick to the thread topic please
OP Braveheart16 18 | 254
8 Dec 2020 #3,921
kondzior - I think vaccines are one of the great achievements of medicine and a blessing for humanity.

Well, that is very good of you to say so...I am sure a lot of other people say the same.....

kondzior - I'm not in the risk group so the benefits of potentially avoiding COVID do not outweigh the risks associated.....

This is your choice not to take a vaccine and I am sure there will be others who feel the same....I understand that only 70% of the population need be vaccinated to have an effect on the virus so no problem. However I suspect that some sort of vaccine passport will be required in the future to travel etc.....
Lenka 3 | 2,577
8 Dec 2020 #3,922
vaccine passport will be required

I really hope not.
Roibeard79 2 | 42
8 Dec 2020 #3,923
Some airlines already said they will make it mandatory to have proof of vaccine before you can board with them
Vesko Vukovic 1 | 213
8 Dec 2020 #3,924
Because it's an unproven RNA vaccine - there's no telling what the side effects might be. You could be fine, you could end up infertile,

Apart from this becoming sterile, some previous not sufficiently tested vaccines in the US have caused autism and brain damage in children that had been vaccinated.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
8 Dec 2020 #3,925
I don't see how the vaccine passport thing can work - at the timelines proposed, airlines will go bankrupt waiting for everyone to have the vaccine,

Then I'm sure airlines will be begging once again for taxpayers cash, even as they don't let those taxpayers on their planes !
Lenka 3 | 2,577
8 Dec 2020 #3,926
Some airlines already said they will make it mandatory

And that is ok as others will surely want the business they rejected. It's more the governments that can make it a hell.
Roibeard79 2 | 42
8 Dec 2020 #3,927
is a fine Irish woman :))

She famous now 😊🇮🇪.

I think I would take the vaccine. Trust the science. Time it gets to my age group 40ish it will be well tested. There are concerns how quick a vaccine has come about but most vaccines are delayed due to funding from what I understand.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
8 Dec 2020 #3,928
vaccine passport

Vaccine or test is likely to be the way forward for island nations, but it won't work with Schengen travel.

What I found interesting is that IATA are suggesting that very few infections are taking place on planes, which suggests that flying itself isn't the problem, but rather the utterly poor design of many airports.

We need to desperately rethink the design of many airports so that queues are kept to a minimum, especially around security and passport control. Perhaps one option for the future is to have cursory security checks at the entrance, then only select people based on risk profiles for more detailed security controls?
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
8 Dec 2020 #3,929
However I suspect that some sort of vaccine passport will be required in the future to travel etc.....

And here they are, the new vaccine card not to be confused with a passport card, YET !

foxnews.com/health/uk-not-issuing-coronavirus-vaccine-passports

Looks like any high school kid could easily make fake ones.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
10 Dec 2020 #3,930
The vaccine is being made right here in Michigan where I live.
Yet I have to wait for months before I am allowed to get one.
People in Poland will be getting them before I will.
There is a tracking code on every vaccine.
The vaccinations will be free however a doctors office visit to get one will be around a $100 for the working class.
Rich people have health insurance, the poor people and scammers have welfare insurance to pay for their doctors office call.

bridgemi.com/business-watch/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-being-made-michigan


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