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Coronavirus in Poland


jon357 63 | 15,214
12 Mar 2020 #301
the meat shelves

They were here until a couple of days ago.

Perhaps one key difference is that everybody over a certain age here has been used to things running out, especially fresh produce.
johnny reb 23 | 4,518
13 Mar 2020 #302
and are just flying from a UK airport to get round the ban.

That and flying into Mexico City and then up to San Diego and then to where ever.

Here is an interesting spooky prediction on the Chinavirus.
indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/this-book-predicted-2020-coronavirus-outbreak-12-years-ago-trending-now-1652433-2020-03-04
Atch 17 | 3,224
13 Mar 2020 #303
There will be a big problem in Polish cities because of the overcrowded living conditions. Infected family members will not be able to isolate themselves in their own bedroom and every member of the household is likely to be infected. The poorest, with four plus person households squashed into one or two room flats are also most likely to need the public health service as they don't have private medical care plans, so the strain will be considerable. During the swine flu epidemic in 2009 Poland had fewer cases than Ireland, but far more deaths..........
koronawirus
13 Mar 2020 #304
There will be a big problem in Polish cities because of the overcrowded living conditions.

Indeed, Iran has already been seen digging vast burial pits:

metro.co.uk/2020/03/12/satellite-images-show-mass-graves-dug-12391216/

So, the big question for Western nations who are committed at the highest levels of Government to equality, diversity and inclusion is: Should Jews have separate mass graves from their goy neighbors?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,266
13 Mar 2020 #305
So, the big question

Is totally off topic. Obviously Bieganski's parents are working from home and he's not allowed out of the basement.
Joker 1 | 1,586
13 Mar 2020 #306
When the Italian economy crashes will the European Banking System have the ability to stabilize the hemorrhaging before it collapses? Remember Greece? That was a close one!
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #307
Probably yes, as much as any other banking system.
mafketis 23 | 8,404
13 Mar 2020 #308
Remember Greece?

As Mark Blyth put it, Greek debt was a rounding error in the wider EU economic picture. The draconian measures inflicted against it were not about Greece at all but as a warning to Italy...

There are going to be very profound economic changes brought about by this....
Joker 1 | 1,586
13 Mar 2020 #309
There are going to be very profound economic changes brought about by this....

The paranoia and hysteria is really escalating here in the US. The Dems want to give every citizen $1000 now, it doesnt make much sense to over react to try and score political points. Were basically all in this together. The EU should do what it can to stabilize the economy, if need be.
Cargo pants 2 | 476
13 Mar 2020 #310
The paranoia and hysteria is really escalating here in the US

You should see here in Warsaw,poles are getting crazy as well.My local supermarket shelves were empty and am getting texts to stock up,freaking nuts.Good business though,more sales and most stuff will be thrown out eventually to buy again.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,550
13 Mar 2020 #311
Kind of makes me want to stock up and resell everything for double. Prison code seems to apply more and more in daily life in emergencies.
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #312
stock up and resell everything for double




Dirk diggler 9 | 4,550
13 Mar 2020 #313
What is that a PRL photo? The whole point in running a store is to profit... and if someone is willing to pay $10 for a roll of toilet paper well that's simply supply and demand...
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #314
What is that a PRL photo?

Nope, IIRP, just before the Germans came...

The whole point in running a store is to profit...

You evidently don't see a difference between profit and profiteering. Fortunately the authorities do.
Cargo pants 2 | 476
13 Mar 2020 #315
LOL and now the Chinese sending medical team to help in Italy.
johnny reb 23 | 4,518
13 Mar 2020 #316
Fortunately the authorities do.

Yes they do jon.
They are telling people to save their sales slips if they have been gouged.
Not all but some will get fined for doing it.
There should be a run on ammo next so stock up now before the shelves are bare. lol
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,550
13 Mar 2020 #317
Nope, IIRP, just before the Germans came...

Ah makes sense now. Must have been some jew's store.

You evidently don't see a difference between profit and profiteering. Fortunately the authorities do.

Profiteering, price gouging, etc. is not illegal in most states. Same as offering bribes to non-government institutions. There is nothing illegal about a private person charging whatever they want for a good or service. And even if there was, the court would have collect sufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed, and even if they did it'd result in at most a consent decree or fine.

There should be a run on ammo next so stock up now before the shelves are bare. lol

You better believe I'm sitting on around 2k rounds in crates = )

I just put up an ad selling essentials. I'm curious how many replies I'll receive.
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #318
Profiteering, price gouging, etc.

Interesting how things will turn out here...
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,590
13 Mar 2020 #319
Germany plans on shucking out BILLIONS for the industry, but also for entrepreneurs, also to offer limitless loans for everybody who needs it....also it is talked about an extra cheque for all Germans, like Hongkong just did, to keep the economy afloat...

The EU plans to set out the regular debt ceilings and also plans to infuse endangered economies with additional Billions....and there is more to come, after all if there is something Germany and the EU have enough of it's money!
MatureStudentinPoland
13 Mar 2020 #320
People are talking about panic buying here in Poland, but I just don't see it. I am not saying it isn't happening to a certain extent, but that's not my experience.

Today I visited both Stokrotka and Dino to check if they had stock as I am a little worried.

Stokrotka had basically full shelves. It's in a shopping mall that was basically empty apart form staff and people in the supermarket. The pasta, flour, rice and sliced meat shelves were fairly bare, but basically everything was in stock. The only thing they were noticeably out of stock of was hand wash, but there was lots of soap and body wash.

Dino was quite busy, but the shelves were just as full. There were several staff restocking and there were lots of boxes in the aisles so I am not sure what it was like yesterday. The worst part was this older woman who was coughing repeatedly without even covering her mouth.

Both had toilet roll, but I bought four 24 packs just in-case (I'm joking). On toilets, I notice my dorm has lots of signs up about the virus (in Polish so not 100% sure what they say), but the men's toilet near the lobby has been out of soap and paper towels for several weeks so not sure what the point is.

I hope they don't close the borders or cancel all flights to the UK. I would rather go home than be stuck in a foreign country.
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #321
People are talking about panic buying here in Poland, but I just don't see it.

Biedronka at Galeria MÅ‚ociny was empty of meat, milk, potatoes/onions, bog roll, pasta and a few other things yesterday PM.
Cargo pants 2 | 476
13 Mar 2020 #322
Damn,even Canadian PM Trudeau is in self isolation for 14 days after his wife tested positive for Corona virus.Its really going bad.
MatureStudentinPoland
13 Mar 2020 #323
Brazilian President Bolsanaro has it too. He was with Trump at the weekend shaking his hand and having dinner/ meetings with him. Several in Bolsonaro's team who were in the US have also tested positive.

A member of the UK cabinet has it also. She was at a party with Johnson and all of the other members of the cabinet last Thursday. Johnson has refused to be tested even though people can have it with no symptoms. What an idiot.

About the supermarkets being empty, I saw a Facebook post form a friend in Auchan where the queues were huge and there were empty shelves. Maybe it is sporadic and you just have to check a few stores?

There was plenty of milk, fruit and vegetables in both stores I went to today.
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #324
Bolsanaro has it too

He's just denied it, not that he's known for truth or honesty.

What an idiot.

Indeed.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,590
13 Mar 2020 #325
Just ordered extra bog rolls and lotsa more coffee....the online markets are still working fine! :)
mafketis 23 | 8,404
13 Mar 2020 #326
It's very good to know that European solidarity is still in place and that countries in need can count on the EU...

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/italy-fined-by-eu-top-court-for-failing-to-recoup-sardinian-aid
jon357 63 | 15,214
13 Mar 2020 #327
the online markets are still working fine!

A good thing. They're slower than usual here due to demand, however they're at least still working and a good way to shop right now.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,590
13 Mar 2020 #328
It's very good to know that European solidarity is still in place

Yes, it is!

"...The EU-27 leaders held a teleconference on Tuesday evening focusing on containing the spread of the virus and mitigating the economic fallout.

After the meeting, EU commission president Ursula von der Leyen announced a €25bn coronavirus investment fund for the health care sector, labour market and SMEs with €7.5bn to be released from the current EU budget, and the rest to be leveraged later....."


euobserver.com/economic/147690

"...The commission will draw up guidelines by the end of the week on the use of state aid spending and flexibility in EU fiscal rules to help countries counter the economic impact of the outbreak...."

And that's just the beginning!

"....She said the commission had already released €140m for research on vaccines and treatment...."

Most countries alone, for themselves, would had no hope to stem any of it....
Weimarer 10 | 620
13 Mar 2020 #329
I think most dont realize yet whats to come.

COVID-19 has a high lethality rate. 10 times more than teh flu. Its extremly infectious. When you are above 65, your death rate is 25%.

If this is not battled with evrything we have, it can cause more death than WW II and WW I combined. The spanish flu caused 50 million death.

Here in Germany they do nothing to stop it. They close schools in some states in others not. Borders still not protected. If you have symptoms its almost impossible to get tested. You get send from one office to next and here it just starts.

And whats worse, we have a brain dead slug as chancellor who waited all those weeks and did nothing, just to step into camera yesterday and say empty phrases. Here some excerpts:

"Now the Virus is here. It is here indeed"
"We will try to do something and i advice people avoid traveling"
"We could not know two weeks ago, that this would happen".

Just you know...Merkel knows since first cases in China whats going on. She chosed to do nothing. Travel from China was not blocked. They not even checked passengers for fever. They placed some posters at airports. They did not cancel carnival. Most cases are now in NRW where the carnival centers are.

Because of that Germany and all EU will suffer, Poland included. Nothing will stop this from spreading into your country as well.

@ Bratwurst Boy....The Eu sends 140 million for vaccines and treatment? Canada alone spends 1 billion for that.

The EU is worthless piece of ****.


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