pawian 176 | 14,299 13 Sep 2020 #3,151right suggesting Jewish conspiracy here? Do you support this idea??Coming back to it. Did you hear Israel has just announced the second lockdown, for 3 weeks, starting on Friday.Knowing that Jews and Poles share a lot of similar traits, I wouldn`t be surprised if we do the same here sooner or later.
johnny reb 28 | 5,258 13 Sep 2020 #3,152Months after Covid-19 infection, patients report breathing difficulty and fatigueCovid symptoms only last two weeks is a myth.Twelve weeks after patients were released from a hospital, 74% of them reported symptoms, including breathlessness and excessive fatigue.Despite these symptoms, however, 104 of the 110 patients in the study had normal basic blood test results, with just 12% showing an abnormal chest X-ray and 10% showing restrictive lung function through spirometry tests.Dr. MeiLan King Han, a pulmonologist and professor of medicine at the University of Michigan. "For the patients I have followed, many continue to complain of cough, breathing issues and severe fatigue long after their first infection."Long haulers and dysautonomiaMany Covid-19 patients feel that the medical system is gaslighting them, telling them there's nothing wrong even though their whole lives have been upended by Covid-19's aftermath.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 14 Sep 2020 #3,153An interesting take I read recently (and largely agree with).There is a global oligarchy and in many countries the forces (political and otherwise) promoting more lockdowns and general panic are those in alignment with the oligarchy.Those opposed to lockdowns and the like are not necessarily enemies of the oligarchy but they're not dependent upon it either.
johnny reb 28 | 5,258 14 Sep 2020 #3,154An interesting take on your part Muff.Since the maskholes either refuse to social distance, wear their mask properly or no mask at all, there is little other choice but to promote lockdowns.They are not to cause panic but to 'force' the dickhead maskholes to stay away from people that they may unknowingly infect.These are the morons that are spreading it.India, Brazil and the U.S. just reported over 300,000 testing positive in the past 24 hour period.How does that happen if people are following the guidelines ?
johnny reb 28 | 5,258 14 Sep 2020 #3,155Here is a run on sentence for ya.Maybe if people were told that the N95 masks can be washed in a washing machine, with hot soapy water, and can be re-used safely that people wouldn't wear the same contaminated mask day after day and expect it to be effective from spreading the virus if they had it unknowingly.A little common sense goes a long ways.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 14 Sep 2020 #3,156New and improved daily numbers for Poland...Fatalities (daily total) 15, age range 63 -100, average age 81Number of active cases (new metric running total) - 76 = 11,229Hospitalizations (running total) + 11 = 1972 (still under 2000....)Ventilators in use, -+ 1 = 87Number tested (daily total) = 12,600Cured (daily total) 438 which is 116 % the number of discovered cases..Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 29 times more cured cases than fatalities.13th day in a row with more cured than new cases.... will tomorrow be two weeks?
Cargo pants 2 | 831 14 Sep 2020 #3,157No quarantine. I had no problem in Amsterdam and a client had no problem in Frankfurt last week.The US embassy site says yes,there is 10 day quarantine,but some people say there is none for the flights coming from within the EU.
kondzior 12 | 1,200 14 Sep 2020 #3,158If the government makes it mandatory they will put a micro chip in the vaccination.It's already happening, even before the vaccine is out. Some countries already require you to have an app installed on your phone with tracking active 24/7, once you test negative, and impose heavy fines if you interfere with it.Purely for "contact tracing" of course, absolutely no way that data will ever get misused you crazy conspiracy theorist nazi white supremacist.That this whole thing culminates in an enforced vaccination is worrying. If I had to guess I'd say it would damage fertility or T levels somehow as the UN seems to be waging war on both those things.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,714 14 Sep 2020 #3,159I feel sorry for the healthcare workers, teachers, etc. they don't really have a choice on whether they want the vaccine or not. Either they get a rapidly developed, unproven novel RNA type vaccine (as opposed to the traditional vaccines using an inactive virus/virus DNA) and can't sue if they get all messed up or lose their jobs. I know I sure as hell won't be taking an sort of covid vaccine. Fts...
johnny reb 28 | 5,258 14 Sep 2020 #3,160Then you will have the choice to go live in a FEMA Camp surrounded with concertina wire with the rest of the people that refuse to get them.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590 15 Sep 2020 #3,161@Cargo pantsExactly why there are no more direct flights to Poland from USA. Many Americans in Poland right now. In Opole yesterday and met 4 at dinner. If there are Americans coming to Opole, on holiday according to them, then the border closure is pretty flimsy.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 15 Sep 2020 #3,162Very good interview (for those who can read Polish) on onet with Prof. Ryszarda Chazan (bunch of initials after her name and lots of qualifications including in respiratory diseases)couple of money quotes"I don't understand on what legal basis unfounded fear can be used to deprive young people of education""it's hard for me to believe how easy decisions made from above were able to halt the whole world"medonet.pl/koronawirus/koronawirus-w-polsce,prof--ryszarda-chazan-o-koronawirusie-i-lockdownie--trudno-mi-uwierzyc--jak-latwo-odgornymi-decyzjami-udalo-sie-zatrzymac-caly-swiat,artykul,27167777.html
Atch 17 | 3,415 15 Sep 2020 #3,163And suddenly the thread is all about America - yet again. To get back to Europe, by 13 October the EU will finalze its new 'traffic light' system which will add some clarity to the foreign travel situation. It looks as if all the EU member states will adopt it.Under the EU plans, countries or regions with a 14-day cumulative Covid-19 rate under 25 per 100,000, and a positivity rate of less than 3%, will be designated green.Orange areas will be those with a 14-day rate under 50 per 100,000 and infection rate of over 3%, or where the 14-day rate ranges between 25 and 150 and the positivity rate is under 3%.Countries and regions with a 14-day incidence rate of 50 or more and positivity rate of 3% or above, or if the 14-day rate is more than 150, will be designated red.Areas with insufficiently clear data will be classified as grey.The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control will publish a map outlining which countries or regions are what colour and it will be updated weekly.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 15 Sep 2020 #3,164New and improved daily numbers for Poland...Fatalities (daily total) 25, age range 54 -100, average age 76Number of active cases (new metric running total) + 130 = 11,359Hospitalizations (running total) + 24 = 1996 (still under 2000....)Ventilators in use, + 5 = 92Number tested (daily total) = 18,700Cured (daily total) 451 which is 74 % the number of discovered cases..Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 18 times more cured cases than fatalities.ap outlining which countries or regions are what colour and it will be updated weeklSounds like a plan to make travel impossible....by making planning all but impossible. If I didn't know better I'd say the EU is trying to operationalize Saint Greta's desire to end affordable air travel for most Europeans... but..... do I know better?
mafketis 24 | 9,352 16 Sep 2020 #3,166New and improved daily numbers for Poland...Fatalities (daily total) 10, age range 54 -94, average age 73Number of active cases (new metric running total) + 28 = 11,387Hospitalizations (running total) + 11 = 2007 (one comment on twitter suggests that all those admitted to hospitals are tested and positive results are entered as covid hospitalizations even if there are no symptoms and they were admitted for something else.... FYI only I have no confirmation).Ventilators in use, - 6 = 86Number tested (daily total) = 21,900Cured (daily total) 562 which is 93 % the number of discovered cases..Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 56 times more cured cases than fatalities.
jon357 66 | 16,965 16 Sep 2020 #3,167New and improved daily numbers for Poland...I'm surprised how full some of the bars/restaurants are here. No masks or distancing, no contact tracing that I've noticed, and no real increase in infections.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 16 Sep 2020 #3,168no real increase in infections.I think that Poland is following the Japanese model (whether by design or accident is an open question) of testing as few random people as they can get away with because mostly just brings to light asymptomatic cases and bothers and disturbs everyone.The priority in Poland is getting back to normal and that is good.
pawian 176 | 14,299 16 Sep 2020 #3,170and no real increase in infections.They say we must wait 2,3 weeks after schools were opened.I think that Poland is following the Japanese model (whether by design or accident is an open questionDon`t expect those rightards to have any conscious plan. They are like kids lost in the foggy forest.
jon357 66 | 16,965 16 Sep 2020 #3,171They say we must wait 2,3 weeks after schools were opened.I guessed about 3 weeks. A week for a few kids to start getting infected, a week for some of the parents to get it and a week for it to really spread.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 16 Sep 2020 #3,172I guessed about 3 weeks.The important metric is less total number of positive results but hospitalization rates.... the more you test the more cases you find but that doesn't necessarily fill the hospitals.... (fortunately)
mafketis 24 | 9,352 17 Sep 2020 #3,173New daily numbers for Poland...Fatalities (daily total) 16, age range 51 -89, average age 73Number of active cases (new metric running total) + 206 = 11,593Hospitalizations (running total) - 90 = 1917Ventilators in use, - 2 = 84Number tested (daily total) = 22,100Cured (daily total) 615 which is 73 % the number of discovered cases..Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 38 times more cured cases than fatalities.
johnny reb 28 | 5,258 17 Sep 2020 #3,174Has anyone noticed that not one politician has died from the Virus ?Ya"ll know you're being played, Right ?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,630 17 Sep 2020 #3,175There is an extensive list for the US....ballotpedia.org/Government_official,_politician,_and_candidate_deaths,_diagnoses,_and_quarantines_due_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020#Diagnosed_incumbents.2C_candidates.2C_and_government_officials
cms neuf 1 | 1,852 17 Sep 2020 #3,176Boris Johnson almost died of it and he still looks far too ill to be running the country
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,714 17 Sep 2020 #3,177There's a video by Journeyman about a nurse who worked in Elmhurst Hospital in NYC during the peak of COVID. Basically everyone they intubated died. One guy lived - a drug addict who awoke as his body already had a huge tolerance to sedative/opiate type drugs and ripped out the vent tube himself. The nurse charges that the hospital and doctors were deliberately intubating and thus killing people on purpose and getting away with it due to an order giving them more protection against malpractice. Strange coincidence that even though hydroxychloroquine (with zinc) was a treatment used all around the world and the USA, yet Cuomo signed an executive order against off-label use.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDsKdeFOmQ
jon357 66 | 16,965 18 Sep 2020 #3,178he still looks far too ill to be running the countryRight now, he probably isn't. Just taking orders from Cummings and Patel, while Rishi Sunak is being groomed to take over in 2021.The new lockdowns in some regions there are going to be hard for people; harder still if the 2 week countrywide lockdown that they're hinting at actually happens. There may well be some nasty surprises here in Poland as the season changes.
mafketis 24 | 9,352 18 Sep 2020 #3,179New daily numbers for Poland...Fatalities (daily total) 17, age range 60-89, average age 77Number of active cases (new metric running total) + 153 = 11,746Hospitalizations (running total) + 8 = 1925Ventilators in use, - 1 = 83Number tested (daily total) = 21,000Cured (daily total) 587 which is 77 % the number of discovered cases..Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 34 times more cured cases than fatalities.
pawian 176 | 14,299 18 Sep 2020 #3,180PatelIs he Indian? In one of my textbooks a character`s name is Patel, he runs a shop and looks Indian.