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Coronavirus in Poland


cms neuf 1 | 1,852
25 Aug 2020 #3,001
I don't know lenka - lots of parents can't bear any more of this and don't want another school year interrupted - we already had the strikes and the virus.

I can't wait for Sep 1st !
mafketis 24 | 9,387
25 Aug 2020 #3,002
govs are pushing for opening schools (and get people back to work) while parents are more against it..

Exactly! That's the whole model - get citizens protesting against the government providing services (as an excuse to shut them down).

It's the same with anti-police riots in the US - you have thousands of people demand that the state stop providing policing (and prisons) two areas governments are itching to leave anyway.

I think in the US it'll be public universities that will be the first to go (many are committed to remote learning throughout the entire academic year - at full tuition rates of course). Of course students don't want that and enrollments are down...

Also, if they record lectures on university software then the university owns the lectures and can dispense with the lecturers entirely....
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,632
25 Aug 2020 #3,003
Re-infections of cured people now also in Europe detected...Holland and Belgium have the first two cases now officially documented.

reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-netherlands-reinfe/dutch-belgian-patients-re-infected-with-coronavirus-nos-report-idUSKBN25L0LF

*digs himself in*
mafketis 24 | 9,387
25 Aug 2020 #3,004
*digs himself in*

There's one born every minute....
Spike31 2 | 2,110
25 Aug 2020 #3,006
who (...) is suggesting that?

I'm not saying that the whole brands and whole production branches have to move back. Just crucial parts of supply chains within the key indistries would be enough. Nobody is going to bring back the production of t-shirts or plastic toys back to Europe...

The whole process has started earlier on - for example, Chinese companies are banned from building a 5G network in the UK (and the US) - but this 'new' situation will give it more fuel.

uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-china/trump-administration-pushing-to-rip-global-supply-chains-from-china-officials-idUKKBN22G0BZ

nytimes.com/2020/03/11/business/economy/coronavirus-china-trump-drugs.html

If you don't think governments should be in the business of providing education you should be happy

I meant classic private education. The remote education cannot match the quality of a regular schooling, master and apprentice relationship, kids socializing witch each other, comparing their strengths and weaknesses etc.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
25 Aug 2020 #3,007
Today's numbers for Poland as the weekend slump ends and the midweek jump begins....

Fatalities (daily total) 17, age range 46-96, average age 72

Hospitalizations (running total) down 40 to 2167

Respirators in use, down 6 to 76

Cured (daily total) 336 bit less than half the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 19 times more cured cases than fatalities.

For Spike:

twitter.com/comabyc/status/1298180653901635584/photo/1

Also the policies in Australia/New Zealand have been very draconian.... and should be a cause of concern for anyone interested in individual liberties.... (alternately if you think governments can get hugely friendly with the CCP without starting to act like the CCP then.... you dumb, ya big dummy)
Cargo pants 2 | 865
25 Aug 2020 #3,008
All the figures you give here,I read it here at around 12/1 pm your time in Poland.
epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/poland
Spike31 2 | 2,110
26 Aug 2020 #3,009
For all those half-wits who believe in "deadly pandemic" ex minister for health Lukasz Szumowski vel "forget about summer holidays during pandemic" sends his best wishes from Canary Islands.

"Stay home, keep social distance, don't visit your grandma and put a muzzle on your mug". There's no cure for fools...

se.pl/wiadomosci/polityka/polska-w-epidemii-szumowski-na-rajskiej-wyspie-aa-Tgkb-22v6-WprF.html
Atch 17 | 3,429
26 Aug 2020 #3,010
All the figures you give here,I read it here at around 12/1 pm your time

He's not 'breaking news'. He just has a routine where he obviously has time to post here in the evenings, so he puts the daily figures here for the record. It doesn't matter what time of day he does it.

For all those half-wits

Who vote PIS. That's what your post really demonstrates - what a joke the world of Polish politics and particularly the present government is. Utterly incompetent and untrustworthy Minister for Health, a President who's neither use nor ornament, the list goes on. In Ireland they'd be referred to as 'a shower of sleeveens and gombeen men'.
Spike31 2 | 2,110
26 Aug 2020 #3,011
All nice and well @Atch but have you visited your grandma/aging mother on Easter and did you wear a dust mask on your pretty face during "pandemic"? :-)
mafketis 24 | 9,387
26 Aug 2020 #3,012
Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 17, age range 50-91, average age 77

Hospitalizations (running total) up 3 to 2170

Ventilators in use, up 3 to 79

Cured (daily total) 615 which is 84% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 36 times more cured cases than fatalities.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
27 Aug 2020 #3,013
Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 16, age range 49-95, average age 75

Hospitalizations (running total) up 15 to 2185

Ventilators in use, up 3 to 82

Cured (daily total) 698 which is 78% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 43 times more cured cases than fatalities.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
28 Aug 2020 #3,014
Today's numbers for Poland

Fatalities (daily total) 9, age range 45-86, average age 73

Hospitalizations (running total) +36 = 2221

Ventilators in use, +7 = 89

Cured (daily total) 688 which is 86% the number of discovered cases...

Ratio of cured to fatalities (daily) there were 76 times more cured cases than fatalities.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
28 Aug 2020 #3,015
More people have died from the virus in the E.U. then in all of the United States and the United States numbers have been padded horribly by blaming old age, (natural causes), to traffic deaths if the poor soul at room temperature tested positive for the virus.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Aug 2020 #3,016
That's not true - there are 180k deaths in the US and 140k in the EU.

In any case the EU has a much larger population
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
28 Aug 2020 #3,017
That's not true -

So the U.S.A.'s 180k divided into 330 million population equals .18.%
The E.U. has 140k divided into 447 million population which equals .32%
Would it be fair to say that the European Union has had 30% more deaths proportionately than the United States ?
Lenka 3 | 2,577
28 Aug 2020 #3,018
No wonder you hate teachers as obviously yours sucked.
Forget math, use logic. More deaths in smaller population has lower percentage than less deaths in bigger population?
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Aug 2020 #3,019
No it wouldn't be fair. It would be a math error

180k/330k is 0,54, not 0.18.

So US deaths per million are 74 percent higher.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
28 Aug 2020 #3,020
No wonder you hate teachers as obviously yours sucked.

Don't blame my teachers, I have cheeto dust stuck in my calculator pad.

So US deaths per million are 74 percent higher.

Another math error. lol
You like cheeto's too cms ?
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
28 Aug 2020 #3,021
No I hate that orange stuff around my mouth !
Cargo pants 2 | 865
28 Aug 2020 #3,022
lolI see someone has been watching cheetos ad
youtube.com/watch?v=XSMZhCCEFuA
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
29 Aug 2020 #3,023
180k/330k is 0,54, not 0.18.

First it is 180,000 thousand (18k) deaths in a population of 330 million, not 330 thousand.
Next you divided 330 mil into 180k where as I divided 180k into 330 mil. as I posted.

Forget math, use logic.

I used both but the word "proportionately" must have confused you.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
29 Aug 2020 #3,024
OMG

Johnny

first there are more deaths in the US absolutely - in terms of numbers of body bags. 180k v 140k.
Second there are proportionally 74 percent more deaths in the USA than in the EU

Deaths per million in the US. 545
deaths per million in the EU 314

545/314 = 1.735. Take off the one and convert it to.a percentage.

In next weeks episode - are gun deaths higher in the US than in Poland ?
Lenka 3 | 2,577
29 Aug 2020 #3,025
To err is human, to defend one's mistake after it's been pointed out is stupid. Especially in math.

Maybe we should remove some zeros to paint the picture for you?

One person has 18 gold coins in a total of 33, other has 14 gold coins in 44. Do you still think the one with 18 has proportionally less gold?
Ziemowit 13 | 4,282
29 Aug 2020 #3,026
To err is human, to defend one's mistake is stupid

Say that in Latin. That will show you are a real erudite. Errare humanum est sed in errare perseverare diabolicum.

One person has 18 gold coins in a total of 33, other has 14 gold coins in 44. Do you still think ...

That one has been too difficult for me. What's the trick in it
Lenka 3 | 2,577
29 Aug 2020 #3,027
Say that in Latin.

I wish. Sadly even though I love Latin I never had the motivation to learn it properly

What's the trick in it

One it's in the area of his interest it seems and two- by making numbers smaller it should make it easier to picture them and thanks to that understand.
Spike31 2 | 2,110
29 Aug 2020 #3,028
@Cargo pants

Yeah? How about this

youtube.com/watch?v=KkQydoiDY28&ab_channel=jdj
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
29 Aug 2020 #3,029
O.k., I was wrong and misspoke.
(This is do to multi tasking on the net and old age)
What I was trying to say was that proportionally the U.S has had less deaths than the E.U. has for those who have tested positive.

The U.S.A. has had 6 million confirmed cases with 184,000 deaths.
The E.U. has had 2 million confirmed cases with 181,000 deaths.
And no one in the U.S.A. went without a ventilator.

ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
Tacitus 2 | 1,237
29 Aug 2020 #3,030
So basically, chances are high that the number of deaths in the USA might be significantly higher than reported. In any case a truly appalling record for the USA, considering that the EU not only consists of rich countries like France and Belgium, but also very poor ones like Rumania and Greece.


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