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Was Charlie Kirk popular in Poland?


Torq  43 | 2929
25 Aug 2026   #661
None of your quotes say that people nowadays have to submit

God's commandments do not have an expiry date.


jon357  78 | 26207
25 Aug 2026   #662
Those3 did.

Not that they're 'God's commandments' unless the decalogue has been expanded.


Torq  43 | 2929
25 Aug 2026   #663
Not that they're 'God's commandments'

Well, they are apostolic instructions concerning Christian conduct written in the Bible (which is Word of God).

Those3 did.

Nope. Again - they are not descriptions of ancient social customs but instructions about conduct in marriage from the Word of God. They do not have an expiry date.


mafketis  46 | 12484
25 Aug 2026   #664
Yet he did stadium tours.

When? Where?

His main format were question and answer sessions (often on university campuses). I disagreed with him on some issues, but certainly never saw any crazy raning from him.



t would be impossible for babies to be born in such marriages

Tell it to Webbon... he is a freak and far worse than Kirk.


jon357  78 | 26207
25 Aug 2026   #665
Well, they are apostolic instructions

St Paul's teaching. Good generally, some outdated details.

they are not descriptions of ancient social customs

They are.

And if you regard every detail of biblical teaching as relevant today, it doesn't go unnoticed that you are choosing ones you feel are relevant to contemporary life.


Torq  43 | 2929
25 Aug 2026   #666
it doesn't go unnoticed that you are choosing

Aaa, the old "pick and choose" reproach. It's a flawed objection.

Of course Christians distinguish between biblical commands. The question is not whether we select commands according to our preferences, but whether the Bible itself tells us which commands belong to which covenant and how they continue to apply. There is no exegetical reason for concluding that the New Testament instructions regarding marriage no longer govern Christian conduct.

Let's see...

1. They are explicitly addressed to Christians - check
2. They concern ordinary Christian conduct - check
3. Their rationale is theological rather than merely cultural - check
(Ephesians 5 - Christ and the Church, Colossians 3 - "in the Lord", Titus 2 - the Word of God
1 Corinthians 11 - creation and Christological order).
4. The New Testament nowhere revokes the instruction - check

So, I don't "choose them because I feel they are relevant" but I claim that they are inerrant Word of God conducting Christian conduct, they were never revoked and don't have expiry date. To prove me wrong you would have to provide a biblical basis for that conclusion rather than just claiming that they are culturally obsolete.


jon357  78 | 26207
25 Aug 2026   #667
the old "pick and choose"

Of course. Religion is like that.

The important thing is the details, do you love your neighbour as yourself, do you feed the hungry, clothe the naked, set prisoners free.

The rest is just at extras. Do you think God cares whether or not a woman submits to a man?

Anyway, this is about Charlie Kirk, whatever denomination he belonged to. A political demagogue who believed that a certain number of gun deaths is acceptable.

He joined that number.


Torq  43 | 2929
25 Aug 2026   #668
The important thing is the details (...) The rest is just at extras.

What is important and what are "extras" is neither for you or me to decide.

Do you think God cares whether or not a woman submits to a man?

Of course. And because he cares about that and commands that, it is the right way of conduct. If people choose to ignore it, they will eventually have to face the consequences (and they already are, as we can very well observe all around the world).

It's really not rocket science: obey the commands and be happy; disobey and face the consequences.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
25 Aug 2026   #669
And why use the outdated and unpleasant American term "mental retardation"? It's 2026 not 1926.

So, the acuate description is inconvenient to you. The woke approved description does not change anything; Mental retardation is what it is, regardless, of the name And your anti-Americanism shines through, why do you think the term originated in America. Nothing to be ashamed of, but what is your source?


jon357  78 | 26207
25 Aug 2026   #670
neither for you or me to decide.

Of course. They are for individuals.

Of course

That's certainly a paleoconservative outlook.

obey the commands and be happy

It seems that some of the happiest people are the ones who break all of the Ten Commandments


Torq  43 | 2929
25 Aug 2026   #671
It seems that some of the happiest people

Don't let the appearances fool you.

Not to mention what awaits them in eternity. 0_0


Barney  19 | 2224
25 Aug 2026   #672
@mafketis
He killed himself after hundreds of articles in the UK were published immediately before his death. The pressure on this individual was incredible. I think the volume of press could be described as a pile on. The articles were mostly based on a self declared racist's decision to target him. The plagiarism allegation originated from the American racist, a racist with an axe to grind. There was no formal finding that he was a plagiarist and the university that awarded his PhD investigated and found nothing untoward. Other academics at a similar point in their working lives have not experienced such scrutiny.

I think it's a fair and reasonable conclusion that he was hounded to death in a racist witch hunt.


mafketis  46 | 12484
25 Aug 2026   #673
The pressure on this individual was incredible.

Didn't he want to defend his work... or did he know he couldn't?

What about the weird stories he made up about his life?

Not a stable individual... put in a position that he could not fill.

racist

That word no longer has any practical meaning about 98% of the time it's used.


Barney  19 | 2224
25 Aug 2026   #674
That word no longer has any practical meaning

In this case I think it does. The whole thing started with a self described race realist singling him out for attention where the truth of his academic record was irrelevant. Of course all the citizen journalists or whatever bollox these busybodies call themselves piled on and were amplified by published media creating a vicious circle of sh1t.

He had no chance to defend himself and why TF should he respond to every crank known to man. I don't know how stable he was or anything else about him other than statements put out by his employers. None of them have confirmed any of the allegations against him. This is one of the minor reasons I have to avoided interacting with social media, I have many more major reasons for avoiding it.


mafketis  46 | 12484
25 Aug 2026   #675
The whole thing started with a self described race realist

How do you understand the term 'race realist'?


Barney  19 | 2224
25 Aug 2026   #676
@mafketis
The man self described as such and also made statements that any reasonable person would agree promoted a race theory where he was in the elite and his target was not. So to me the term race realist is an attempt to resurrect scientific racism with a media friendly term. It's analogous to intelligent design as a replacement for creationism.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
25 Aug 2026   #677
Race theory is the dangerous, perennial cop out of the majority population, hiding conveniently behind delusions of superiority, if only to mask deeply ingrained, indeed abject, feelings of even deeper inferiority!


Barney  19 | 2224
25 Aug 2026   #678
@Lyzko9bda5804d1f
In this case the self proclaimed "race realist" is actually a non Christian, fighting age migrant with a dangerous ideology. Now imagine if he were black.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
26 Aug 2026   #679
it doesn't go unnoticed that you are choosing ones you feel are relevant to contemporary..

That where you are mistaken, Torq is talking about creation, beginning of times, God, infinity, he is talking about the road to salvation, that God reveal to faithful in the Ten Commandments relevant in the progressive today as it was at the beginning of human exitance, noting chosen, but for sure relevant,
You on the other hand, use the progress like the disable using the crutches. No denying, many benefits come with progress, but look at the godless
world, trampling on the Ten Commandments and the progress we are making.
You and the progressive masses are staring at the abyss the end of times, all it takes one Ayatollah with the twitchy finger in the nuclear trigger.
We progressed to the point of no return, end is inevitable, just the matter of time. The few survivals will hunt every progressive like a rabid dog
to hang them by the neck.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
26 Aug 2026   #680
It seems that some of the happiest people are the ones who break all of..

Too bad, most of them rot in prisons. No moral compass, alternatively, happy shovers in prison, with the big Bubba.


cms neuf  3 | 2603
26 Aug 2026   #681
The few survivals will hunt every progressive like a rabid dog to hang them by..

Spoken like a true Christian


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Aug 2026   #682
Your sarcasm is admirable


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
26 Aug 2026   #683
Spoken like a true Christian

So, Golden Moran, in your understanding, Christianity should make me blind and not aware of the future, and unpleasant but certain event, should not be discussed, then sonny future be assured? Mentally you act like two years old child covering his eyes and believing that no one can see him, also
freely using Christianity, like a crutch, when is convenient, even though there is enormous void in your heart where God should resign.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
26 Aug 2026   #684
Your sarcasm is admirable

Lyzko, I sarcastically thank you, especially coming from a believer with the big void in your head instead of your heart


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Aug 2026   #685
Look who's talking, see who's squalling.


Joker  2 | 2710
28 Aug 2026   #686
Christianity should make me blind and not aware of the future

He donated for Rysdyks helicopter!


Alien  31 | 8115
30 Aug 2026   #687
Rysdyks helicopter

It hasn't fallen yet.


Ron2
1 Sep 2026   #688
A typical American can't tell the difference between a wolf and a sheep; as long as they see it on TV, they'll believe it without a second thought. The official Kirk assassination story is not what has really happened.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1314
1 Sep 2026   #689
The official Kirk assassination story is not what has really happened.

Of course, not according to prophet. Ron, Charlie Kirk staged the whole affair, he assassinated Robinson, himself, then assumed Robinson persona
, and now is living with Robinsons girlfriend, who is really a boyfriend, minus important appendage, but on the plus side the vinal lined hole.
Thank you for the uplifting news, if not for you, we would believe that Charlie was assassinated, my hero, gone for good.


Ron2
3 Sep 2026   #690
Charlie Kirk staged the whole affair

It's much more likely than a few Arabs with knives carrying out 9/11 and detonating a few skyscrapers in the center of NYC without anyone noticing.





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