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yehudi 1 | 432
28 Apr 2010 #61
but he is close to the Jewish fraternity

There is no Jewish fraternity. And if there is, they haven't been telling me when the meetings are scheduled.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #62
on Polish forum

Israeli anti-polonism again?
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #63
I didn't say Rupert was a Jew but he is close to the Jewish fraternity.

You seem to be close to the "muslim" fraternity. Are you a muslim? Sorry for using cheap logic, but you started.
yehudi 1 | 432
28 Apr 2010 #64
Israeli anti-polonism again?

This is called "Polish Forum" not any other name. And you, a Pole living in Poland, said what you said. Is it anti-polish to quote you?
krakowiak
28 Apr 2010 #65
Nice webpage, what's missing is a game where you have to guess if given person is a jew or not and after 10 persons you get a score. Like the "ass or peach" - test. Is there such a test out there?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
28 Apr 2010 #66
Why would I be close to the Muslim fraternity? There is a Jewish fraternity, more so than most other groups.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #67
This is called "Polish Forum"

We're both aware that maybe 5% of the posters are polish, i hate Israel and dislike Israeli Jews because you guys stand against everything i believe, it has nothing to do with you being jewish and everything with you being thugs, thieves, murders and religious fascists who hate Poland with a passion and try to cover up every crime your nation commits daily against the locals.

It has nothing to do with me being polish or you being jewish and everything to do with principles i chose to live by like liberty, freedom and all those high strung words but you felt the need to imply i made those remarks because i'm polish and this is a polish forum.

This officially makes you an anti-polish fock.

You seem to be close to the "muslim" fraternity. Are you a muslim? Sorry for using cheap logic, but you started.

You're a cretin chap, i dont like muslims but i dont have to like them to defend their basic human rights, Jews have no right to Israel, no right to live on the property they've taken and need to be dealt with like every other thief.

Also Seanus is actually a jewish rabbi.
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #68
Why would I be close to the Muslim fraternity? There is a Jewish fraternity, more so than most other groups.

There is no Jewish fraternity. In fact there is a joke about jews : 2 jews, 1 religion, 3 political parties.

you guys stand against everything i believe,

So what do you believe in?

Let me ask you: are you Catholic?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #69
Let me ask you: are you Catholic?

I'm human, i try to live like a good christian but ultimately i dont buy into the other cheeck thing.

So what do you believe in?

Freedom, liberty, right to own your home and live on your land, Jews came and took away palestinian homes, land and liberties in the name of murky treaties with powers that had no right to the land in the first place.

Then in the name of a jewish written book (bible) Jews under the banner of religion and using holocaust as a guilt weapon killed, evicted and supressed Palestinians carving a country out of a land of others.

Jews have no right to have a country in Israel, never had, never will, not in the homes and lands of others, Jews as a nation lost right to Israel after they willingly left it following the burning of Jerusalem.
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #70
Jews as a nation lost right to Israel after they willingly left it following the burning of Jerusalem.

They were kicked out by the Romans in the second century.

i try to live like a good christian

Your Jesus was a Jew. Did you know that?

jewish written book

Again, the bible was written by Jews, yet you read it and enjoy it.

evicted and supressed Palestinians carving a country out of a land of others.

Nowadays there are many Arabs in Israel and I mean, many. Arabic is one of the official languages, so that should ought to mean something to you. The land of others? It was the land of the Hebrew folk for millenia before they were kicked out.

And may I ask you what did you mean with that "Inbred" comment directed at me?
Let's see, Christian, racist, anti-semitic and stupid. How can you live?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #71
They were kicked out by the Romans in the second century.

Learn history, Romans burned Jerusalem but they didnt kick anyone out, Jews left out of their own accord, they preferred to live elsewhere then to rebuild.

Your Jesus was a Jew. Did you know that?

So?

Again, the bible was written by Jews, yet you read it and enjoy it.

Not really.

Nowadays there are many Arabs in Israel and I mean, many

Enjoying the same rights and priveliges only externally, in reality they're second class citizens.

Arabic is one of the official languages

Which changes the situation of milions of Arabs whos lands were stolen by Jews, who's water is stolen by Jews, who's children are killed by Jews how?

It was the land of the Hebrew folk for millenia before they were kicked out.

Again they left out of their own accord and they left nearly 2000 years ago, 2000 years of absence means you lose all claim to lands, otherwise give Berlin to the Poles, we were there first.

You cant condone theft of land because someone was there 1000, 3000 or 10.000 years ago, they left for over 20 centuries they had no right to return taking it away from people who lived there for over a 1000 years.

And may I ask you what did you mean with that "Inbred" comment directed at me?

An insult, you know whenever i discuss with an idiot who's uneducated, opinionated and feels that he's entitled to opinion just because he can form a relatively coherent sentence i can't bring myself to respect him.

I firmly believe in freedom of speech even when it includes idiots like you but i dont have to like it.
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #72
Which changes the situation of milions of Arabs whos lands were stolen by Jews, who's water is stolen by Jews, who's children are killed by Jews how?

Millions of Arabs? LOL I want you to tell me there were millions of "palestinians" in Palestina back in the day.

An insult, you know whenever i discuss with an idiot who's uneducated, opinionated and feels that he's entitled to opinion just because he can form a relatively coherent sentence i can't bring myself to respect him.

I firmly believe in freedom of speech even when it includes idiots like you but i dont have to like it.

Yes, I know it was an insult, but curiously it didn't really touch me. I don't really care about a braindead catholic extremist with inferiority complexes. As if you were something better.

It's people like you that give "Christianity" a bad name. You deffend Palestinians as if they had any respect for you lol. The only thing they could need from you is the generosity of the females in your family.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #73
You deffend Palestinians as if they had any respect for you lol.

You dont get it buddy, i'm not defending Palestinians, i dont like Arabs, they're an unwashed bunch from an inferior culture who had their 5 minutes centuries ago and were busy f*cking goats and blowing up sh*t ever since, almost as bad as Jews, what i'm defending is principles of basic rights that every human being: Jew, Arab or Pole is in my view entitled to and i feel its my duty to speak for people who're being denied them even if its just on an online board discussing with some random cretin like you.

I dont have to like people, races, religions to defend their rights, if you switched roles and Jews were the victims and Palestinians the occupants i'd defend the Jews.

Comprende? Capito? Understood? You're such an annoying kurwa boy.
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #74
i dont like Arabs, they're an unwashed bunch from an inferior culture

And you're a brainwashed, extremist christian Pole full of resentment and stupidity.

Once again: You fail to prove you're any better than the people you despise.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
28 Apr 2010 #75
Once again: You fail to prove you're any better than the people you despise.

I dont have to be better, what kind of an idiot established that you have to have a high ground for any sort of opinion?

I dont like Jews because of what they do and what they represent, i hate Israel because its a racist state built on the blood of the locals, period.

I dont claim to be better or superior i'm just a guy with an opinion, just like you.

extremist christian Pole

Last time i've been to a church was a year ago, as a tourist, i've never beaten or mistreated anyone because of their race though i did give a bloody nose to a kurdish student for slapping my girl once.

Not much of an extremist or a Christian, i'm a Pole though, one out of three aint bad kurwa boy.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
28 Apr 2010 #76
Well, if you say so but I know otherwise. So, you support a regime which brutalises and displaces? Which claims territory against international law and ICJ pronouncements? A country which recently committed a minor genocide against the Palestinians?

The changing face of Poland is for the better. Poles are united now and are finding common causes are reasonable ways to build their nation. They don't have an IDF and have nothing to feel ashamed about during the Holocaust.
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #77
So, you support a regime which brutalises and displaces? Which claims territory against international law and ICJ pronouncements? A country which recently committed a minor genocide against the Palestinians?

You have a very biased view on this topic, therefore it's useless to discuss this topic with you. I am actually not interested in changing your views. I can just laugh about people using big words such as "genocide" and "regime" without even taking a look at the dusty dictionaries they have at home.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
28 Apr 2010 #78
I used MUCH harder words than that during my LLM module in International Criminal Law. How is it biased? All those things I wrote were facts. They are a bully state.

Poland would never stoop that low. In fact, Polish conduct far exceeds that of its Slavic neighbours when discussing politics (riotous Ukraine and Russia).
Miguel Colombia - | 351
28 Apr 2010 #79
All those things I wrote were facts. They are a bully state.

Poland would never stoop that low. In fact, Polish conduct far exceeds that of its Slavic neighbours when discussing politics (riotous Ukraine and Russia).

How silly can someone be to compare Poland and Israel? Is Poland surrounded by hating neighbours? Jeez, go get some logic thinking.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
28 Apr 2010 #80
Polish conduct far exceeds that of its Slavic neighbours when discussing politics (riotous Ukraine and Russia).

I've seen ungentlemanly conduct in the Polish parliament. more than once.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
28 Apr 2010 #81
What a dumb question! You should be banned for referring to Poland as having pally neighbours given its history.

Still, Wrocław, it isn't on the scale of that which has been witnessed in Russia and Ukraine.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
28 Apr 2010 #82
We're both aware that maybe 5% of the posters are polish,

I don't know about 5% of the posters here are Poles/people of Polish ancestry, but I will say they are definitely in the minority here. The overwhelming MAJORITY of posters in these forum topics are Non-Poles/people who are not of Polish ancestry.

And in true Polish democratic fashion, this Polish forum allows ALL types of opinions both good and bad about Poland and Polish people.

i dont like muslims but i dont have to like them to defend their basic human rights

This is true.

People who are fair minded defend the basic human rights of other people even if they disagree with them.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
28 Apr 2010 #83
People who are fair minded defend the basic human rights of other people even if they disagree with them.

Muslims do this all the time ;)
MediaWatch 10 | 945
29 Apr 2010 #84
Good for them. Although I don't think that includes the radical types.
yehudi 1 | 432
29 Apr 2010 #85
i hate Israel and dislike Israeli Jews because you guys stand against everything i believe,

The problem is that you believe all the bullsht arab propaganda that says we stole their country. What country did we steal from? There was no arab country here. There were arab people, and there still are. And if you look west from here to gibralatar and to the east from here to iraq there are arab countries as far as the eye can see.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
29 Apr 2010 #86
arab propaganda

Indeed true. But the funny thing is at the same time they totally reject those very same Arabs and don't allow them to live in PL. But as long as it's against the Jews, everything goes, it seems. Arabs are no angels either.

>^..^<

M-G (fair's fair)
vetala - | 382
29 Apr 2010 #87
But the funny thing is at the same time they totally reject those very same Arabs and don't allow them to live in PL. But as long as it's against the Jews, everything goes, it seems.

It's not exactly like that, I think. If the discussion is about "Those Evil Arabs" then Jews suddenly serve as a proof of how hateful and nasty Arabs are, when the discussion is about "Those Evil Jews" it's the other way around.

And please, don't say "They", I don't want to be associated with Sokrates and his opinion.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
29 Apr 2010 #88
The problem is that you believe all the bullsht arab propaganda that says we stole their country.

Also Amnesty propaganda? Independent reporters and history books propaganda? C'mon dude.

What country did we steal from?

You stole land, you took homes thats enough, as long as you steal property in the name of religious beliefs we cant really reach any compromise in a discussion.

I'll save you time and effort, keep your opinion, defend the crimes your people commit but dont try and convince me that my views are based on some mythical lies by non-existent arab propaganda or anti-semites or whatever.
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
29 Apr 2010 #89
Explain how it is a genocide? Are Israelis interested in killing all Palestinians? Once again, if they wanted to do so, chances are they would have already done that. Besides, there is no race called palestinian, there is no Palestinian folk either. Palestinians are Arabs, namely Arabs with an identity problem. Yasser ARafat was the most famous palestinian and he was born in Egypt, to Egyptian parents.

How fvcked up is that? Let’s see, applying your own logic to the state of Israel, what do we see? First president of the state of Israel Chaim Weizmann born in Russia, current president of the State of Israel Shimon Peres born in Wiszniewo, Poland now Belarus, so after 62 years of existence as independent country you still don’t have leaders that were born in Israel proper affectively making your argument about Yasser Arafat invalid.

Besides there is no race or nationality called Jews or Jewish, many of your own people make that argument; you argue that Jewish is an religion not nationality. So what is an Israeli? One can only assume that a language he uses will give one a clue and tell us who the hell is he. Israelis speak Hebrew as their official language, don’t you? Anti-Israel or anti-Jewish = anti-Semite.

It's interesting, the term Semitic was first used to refer to the language family of Middle Eastern origin including both Hebrew and Arabic as language, as for the general reference to the people of Middle Eastern extraction as it pertains to their race is the term Arab. This makes it official, it effectively makes you the Israelis the same, so don’t kid yourself you’re just Arabs with identity crisis, hell bent on destroying one branch of your own people.

Although you claim otherwise one can see how you treat this minority within your own jurisdiction, building walls around them effectively making them live in ghettos on unprecedented scale in human history, segregating them from your own population, one can’t help but to draw the parallel with early 20th century Europe and we all call it Genocide, wouldn’t you agree?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Apr 2010 #90
Beautiful post, SHT, beautiful. The Jews and Arabs are long lost brothers, cut from the same cloth. Look back to 1300-900BC and you will see the overlap. They are still there on that same little piece of land, just not like 2 peas in a pod.


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