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How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.


dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
11 Jul 2018 #991
Where exactly is this new world uk trade coming from? I dont get it.

Thats what I worry about, I care about my homeland, so many bridges being burned, so little resource to go it alone.
TheWizard - | 233
11 Jul 2018 #992
I don't blame you it is a worry. But...lets just see what happens. Now the biggest bs artist in the world and another has fallen by the side lets see happens. I mean boris and co. Funny how thats not an English name lol.
Crow 155 | 9,025
15 Oct 2018 #993
I just learned via Sarmatian connection that brat Tusk announced how deal on Brexit isn`t reality. Poles prepare yourself to abandon ghetto and go back to Poland.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
16 Oct 2018 #994
UK is not a 'ghetto' thank you Crowie.

Besides, Polish people are settled here, families, jobs, kids in school, etc.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
16 Oct 2018 #995
The pay is very good for those with skills ambition and good work ethics, they are probably better off than the average crowie in Serbia
Crow 155 | 9,025
16 Oct 2018 #996
I doubt it. I sincerely doubt it.

Sure, they are for sure still more relaxed regarding general feeling of safety in state, considering that aren`t exposed to direct threat from mujaheedines (in some areas of state), other Muslim radicals, or activity of all kind of foreign secret services and troops. But, that`s for now. Britain quite well hurry to become more problematic regarding safety then Serbia. I would say, Britain is Albania or even Lebanon or even Syria of the future. Not that far future.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
17 Oct 2018 #997
you could be right Crowie, you could be right..if the UK were to break up, yes.
TheWizard - | 233
17 Oct 2018 #998
The first signs of bad things for them should be falling pound and dowgrade of credit ratings by various agencies. Once you see this its the beginning of woes for uk.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Oct 2018 #999
BREXIT has already threatened the UK with rations and food shortages, since much of the Island's foodstuffs are imports from the Continent.
Nobody could have foreseen what was going to happen, scaring Britons by making them think their food supply and vital medicines will run out??
TheWizard - | 233
18 Oct 2018 #1,000
That's not possible because if you chuck money anyone will send you anything. It will cost more though on tariff and take longer to get there. Not to mention heaps of uk farmers are only in business because of eu funds. Downgrading of credit leads to higher interest for all uk people, including the countries debt. Lower pound leads to inflation. And on and on it goes, 20 other thiings. None of these things are dramatic, they slowly creep in. The pound is low, interest rates are slowly creeping and uk debt is a joke, inflation creeping up. Slowly. No deal would accelerate it so hopefully they will make a deal?
Crow 155 | 9,025
18 Oct 2018 #1,001
BREXIT has already threatened the UK with rations and food shortages,

I am sure that Serbia can help to Britain with food, if just Britain show respect to Serbia`s sovereignty and annul Kosovo recognition. We who are out of that madhouse that is EU needs to support each others.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
18 Oct 2018 #1,002
BREXIT has already threatened the UK with rations and food shortages,

UK suffers from the shortage of brains. Other shortages are self-inflicted. Yeah, allowing the UK population to balloon by letting in all that foreign crap in has consequences. It would be nice to get the all-native-Brits UK back, wouldn't it? Too late, a-holes.

Somebody should write a book how to destroy a country that was once a peaceful, white, and self-sufficient world power. And an island. It took a real genius to pull this off without a shot fired.

To make your head spin, they are proud and will defend that accomplishment. Just wait....
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Oct 2018 #1,003
Still, BREXIT was rather short-sighted and thought up precipitously, without figuring the long-term consequences.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
18 Oct 2018 #1,004
All you doom mongerers about Britain obviously do not know this country very well.
I don't think Britain will get a good deal from The EU,if we get a deal at all.
I also think that most people who voted to leave knew that too.
And understood that is will make life difficult for British people for some years.
BUT WE STILL THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH IT!
And comments by the French government last night,saying that in future British nationals will need visas to visit France and that British people living in France would become illegals,just confirms the fact that we were right to leave this mess....these stupid,ignorant people don't remember,as I do,how before The UK joined this abhorrent club,we didn't need visas.....

Britain is an extremely resilient nation,we may have to rough it for a while,but long term,we will show that other nations need to leave too.....The EU,as it is now,is finished....
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Oct 2018 #1,005
Britain may well be the resilient nation of Churchill and "There'll Always Be An England And England Shall Be Free", but smack up against cold reality, the UK NEEDS the EU, there's no two ways about it. No single country at any time in history could go it entirely alone!
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
18 Oct 2018 #1,006
Lyzko

The EU needs Britain much more than Britain needs The EU......
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Oct 2018 #1,007
Easy for you to say as a Brit!

The actuality though may not match the idealism. Remember, where does much of Britain's food and resources come from? The Continent!
Things aren't as black-and-white as you make them appear.
mafketis 37 | 10,897
18 Oct 2018 #1,008
And comments by the French government last night,saying that in future British nationals will need visas to visit France

I've been saying since 2016 that the worse Brexit is for the UK the worse for the EU as well and that trying to negotiate as soft a landing as possible (evolving to a status similar to that of Norway or Switzerland) is the best option.

What country full of sane people would support an angry, vengeful EU run by France and Germany?

I detect no real love for the EU in Poland at present, the attitudes are positive but in an instrumental and shallow manner. Even those who really dislike the current government are unimpressed by the EU's actions against it and the harder Brexit is the more attitudes are liable to... not harden, but simple become disengaged (the way they disengaged from communism in the 1950s)
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
18 Oct 2018 #1,009
You do know that it is not the EU that is against a Norway style solution right? The problem is that both Norway and Switzerland accept things (free movement and EU regulations) that go against the promises of the Brexiteers. But without those concessions, it is impossible to give the UK a similar deal.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
18 Oct 2018 #1,010
Remember, where does much of Britain's food and resources come from? The Continent!

So the Continent will sit on the unsold and useless "food" just to punish the UK?
The reverse is often true: countries imposing tariffs to reduce or prevent the flow or goods to them, not out of them. The UK exports to the EU may suffer, but imports?
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Oct 2018 #1,011
And it's Britain which needs those imports....desperately.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
18 Oct 2018 #1,012
Blimey!I'm going to agree with Rich Mazur here....there is a first!
Without question.....ignoring The City of London,Britain is a nett importer from The EU.....and we still do OK.....restricting imports and exports will hurt The EU more than it hurts Britain.

Lyzko
We don't need ANY imports DESPERATELY...LOL!!!!
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Oct 2018 #1,013
Your pride with surely go before your fall, sir!
:-)
MoOli 9 | 480
19 Oct 2018 #1,014
OR knowing Brits,Fall will be before Pride
mafketis 37 | 10,897
19 Oct 2018 #1,015
against a Norway style solution right?

That's why I said "similar to" rather than "Norwegian". A big problem with the EU is that after getting so big it's lost flexibility. Let's see some flexibility and imagination rather than just the constant "it has to be entirely our way" from the EU

I repeat, the harder the Brexit the worse for the EU.
cms neuf 1 | 1,793
19 Oct 2018 #1,016
Yes the EU needs Britain so badly they gave May all of 15 minutes to talk about Brexit at their summit - about the same time as me deciding whether to shop at Biedronka or Lidl.

Of course imports will continue - you can live without wine and olives but it's more difficult to get by without cars and tomatoes. The difference is that they will cost more for British consumers to buy.

And the effect on the financial industry will be catastrophic- which will lead to a huge fall in the UKs tax base.

It's a huge screw up but given that you say you can remember pre 72 that puts you in the category of people who don't need to worry about their jobs.
TheWizard - | 233
19 Oct 2018 #1,017
The eu doesnt need the uk at all. Nice propaganda attempt though.The uk will soon be in ****. Just hurry up and get put!
mafketis 37 | 10,897
19 Oct 2018 #1,018
The eu doesnt need the uk at all

But assuming the persona of a punitive monolith won't help it either...

Technically the EU doesn't much need the 2004 and after accession countries beyond trying to secure property protection so that Germany could incorporate them into its supply chain without worrying about sticky fingers of government officials or threats of nationalization (the fear of EU elites is not really nationalism as such but a potential wave of nationalization of western assets - nationalism is a fig leaf for financial concerns)
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
19 Oct 2018 #1,019
@mafketis

But assuming the persona of a punitive monolith won't help it either...

You keep using those words, but how can justify this description? The EU is not punitive wheb it points out that the UK won't enjoy the same priviliges as a non-member as it did before. That is simply common sense. What the EU has offered the UK so far has been very reasonable and is orientated at deals that were made with other countries.

It is not "punitive" to point out that "having your cake and eat it" is not going to happen. The problem is that the politicians who advocated Brexit created so many unrealistic expectations (they need us more than we need them - any person with a basic understandibg of economics knows this to be untrur) that anything less is now seen as deliberate punishing.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
19 Oct 2018 #1,020
Of course imports will continue - you can live without wine and olives but it's more difficult to get by without cars and tomatoes.

We don't need to buy any of those things from The EU and if they make it too expensive,we won't.

It's easier for The UK to find new countries to buy from than for The EU to find new customers for their produce.

As I said,they need us more than we need them.


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