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American GIs troops finally in Poland and, thank God, there's more to come



Crow 135 | 5,884    
7 Mar 2017  #571

Lies and propaganda of NATO and EU ruling establishment. Simple anti-Serbian propaganda. See, Serbians and then Hungarians were first to recognize Stalin and resist to him. Also, Serbians and then Hungarians came in conflict with Clinton`s and Obama`s USA. See, some people are more sensible to recognize sh**. For that, such a people are punished. But, at the end, justice always win. Today already we live in multi-polar world and when our fighting started world still was uni-Polar. Things change. But only one truth remains- Racowie are always on the right side. Always.

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jon357 67 | 12,607    
8 Mar 2017  #572

Serbians

Nothing really to do with Serbia. It isn't a global payer or even a European one. America didn't want to send GIs to Poland (the cost is phenomenal) and nor does it want to have to deal with the Russian threat. Nevertheless, as long as Putain is up to his tricks, it's a necessary step.
mafketis 16 | 4,643    
8 Mar 2017  #573

It isn't a global payer or even a European one

It's barely a Balkan player anymore. Serbs wrecked Jugoslavija and will probably wreck any international organization they're allowed into.

Part of me would like to see Crow's precious intermarum come into existence (but with Serbia excluded). That would be cool.

Stick to the topic please
Crow 135 | 5,884    
8 Mar 2017  #574

Only foreign troops on Polish soil, truly welcomed, ever, that even were not seen as foreign, were Serbian forces, by Poles known as Racowie. Legendary warriors.

NATO troops are far from that to leave legendary legacy.

Point is that even in this example we see that Poles have much more historical reasons to trust to Serbians then to Anglos, Francos and Germanics that passionately hate Poles but play on politics to hold Poland. But freedom shall come
Harry 78 | 13,510    
8 Mar 2017  #575

Poles much more historical reasons to trust to Serbians

Your Chetnik 'heroes' collaborated with the Nazis during WWII and now are collaborating with the Russian forces which have invaded and are occupying Poland's neighbour. American GIs did not do those things, which is why we in Poland trust them and not your Chetnik 'heroes'.

But freedom shall come

Freedom arrived in Poland decades ago, now we have American GIs to help defend it.
Crow 135 | 5,884    
8 Mar 2017  #576

American GIs did not do those things, which is why we in Poland trust them and not your Chetnik 'heroes'.

You moron. Songs were sang to Serbian Chetniks in Poland during WWII. You should be banned because of lies. You have a tongue of snake

an article

DRAŻA THE SERBIAN CHETNIK IN THE POLISH UNDERGROUND
jkorowicz.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/draza-the-serbian-chetnik-in-the-polish-underground/

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My Captain is pure bravery.
No food eats he, and drinks not a drop,
He's everywhere he's meant to be.
Draża's here! The game is up!
-Song of the 14th Regiment of Jazłowiecki Lancers

Freedom arrived in Poland decades ago, now we have American GIs to help defend it.

to put cross on myself
Harry 78 | 13,510    
8 Mar 2017  #577

Songs were sang to Serbian Chetniks in Poland during WWII.

Songs are sung about how we all live in a yellow submarine; however, photographs tell a different story. In the same way there are more than enough photographs out there to confirm that your Chetnik 'heroes' collaborated with the Nazis in WWII and that they are now collaborating with the Russian scum who have invaded Ukraine.

Face the facts: if Russia decided to invade Poland your Chetnik 'heroes' would be right there next to them and American GIs would be fighting to defend Poland. Poles know that and they will not forget it.
Crow 135 | 5,884    
8 Mar 2017  #578

Why you talk to me about Russia, when you Anglos, side by side with Germanics and Francos destroying Poland? Are you imbecile or just deluded by mainstream media?

As if Poles don`t see for themselves, what EU/NATO done to Yugoslavia, Libya, Serbia. After all, as if Poles don`t see for themselves what EU and NATO want to do to Poland and doing to Poland.
Harry 78 | 13,510    
8 Mar 2017  #579

Why you talk to me about Russia, when you Anglos, side by side with Germanics and Francos destroying Poland?

Russia has invaded Poland's neighbour and is murdering and oppressing its citizens every single day.
You should come to Warsaw and see what's come here in the last dozen years: the new trams running on re-laid lines, the new buses, the new metro line and the expanded first line; the new water and sewage pipes; the vastly improved telecommunications network; the skyscrapers and office parks full of new jobs and new opportunities; the new apartment buildings and new residential areas; the wonderfully upgraded parks. Basically all the things that Serbia and Russia don't have but being in the EU has given Poland. Those are the things Russia would take away from Poland, along with freedom.

After all, as if Poles don`t see for themselves what EU and NATO want to do to Poland and doing to Poland.

Poles see what Serbia did to Yugoslavia and what Libya is doing to itself.
Poles also see what the EU and NATO are doing for Poland; perhaps one day you'll come to Poland and see for yourself what American GIs are helping Poles to protect.
Crow 135 | 5,884    
8 Mar 2017  #580

Harry. I seriously think that you are mentally deranged. But, don`t worry. I think same for myself.
weg05    
9 Mar 2017  #581

Crow, everyone is mentally deranged compared to you.
Marsupial - | 978    
9 Mar 2017  #582

I feel sorry for you Crow. Hopefully one day there will be medication available to cure you and putin. Until that time its just the GI's. Surely the kremlin loons will stop paying you now as you have obviously failed. In fact you may have to pay back money because for every post you type one more person hates serbia and russia. Better check the bank account!
mafketis 16 | 4,643    
9 Mar 2017  #583

Hopefully one day there will be medication available to cure you

Don't worry scro. there's lots of tards out there living really kick αss lives.

(I often think of that movie when reading Crow, if that world had historians, they'd pretty much be him....)
Crow 135 | 5,884    
9 Mar 2017  #584

Would you believe me if I tell you that I agree with you? Would you?

At a time when children of czarnybog knock on our doors, let us don`t forget who we are. There is the cure... Protect! Defend white breasts of Sarmatia!

Donatan-Cleo "MY SŁOWIANIE" directed by Piotr Smoleński

youtube.com/watch?v=B7QymCYDE9U

Well, panowie. Seams that this NATO in Poland isn`t because of Russia. Its in Poland to secure ``order`` and ``prevent`` internal chaos. See, EU preparing political ground for division of Poland and NATO would be ideal tool.

Beware Poles.
Marsupial - | 978    
9 Mar 2017  #585

Lol ridiculous. Order is needed on the streets of france and usa not poland. Crackpot brigade!
Crow 135 | 5,884    
10 Mar 2017  #586

No, its not ridiculous. There is more in the game then we are able to see now. But, with time and new development, things becoming upsetting. Like back in past, troops of Warsaw pact, NATO becoming occupational force of more and more defiant Poland.

As for Russia. I contemplated on it. Russia is no more threat to Poland. That belong to past. Things strategically changed. Russia now desperately needs at least normal relations with Poland, with every Slavic country. See, while Russian public don`t give a sh** for the stance of Anglos, Francos or Germanics about Russia, in case of unprovoked Russian aggressive move against Poland, all other Slavs would turn against Russia what would in turn destabilize Russia from within. No, no, Russia isn`t threat to Poland now. Its even impossible. Western Europeans are threat. I even thinks that Russia seriously have problem (having in mind every aspect of situation) when analyze possibility how to respond on eventual NATO attack on Russia from Poland`s territory (or from territory of any Slavic country). Its for sure of grave Russia`s concern and enemies of all Slavs knows that.
johnny reb 13 | 2,540    
17 Mar 2017  #587

Trump needs to protect not only Poland but also the American troops in Poland.
When Trump's administration was ask about it the repy was:

Moulton said he can imagine scenarios where the Trump administration must respond to Russian use of nuclear weapons.
"If Russia starts using nukes against our allies in Europe, we may well use nukes in retaliation," said Moulton, a member of the House Armed Services Committee.

"What if they target American troops - like the American troops who are training right now in Poland - with a nuclear attack?" he asked.

"What are we going to do and how quickly can that get out of control?
That is why this is such a serious threat and why the Trump administration has got to take this more seriously."


Being both Trump and Putin personalities are being the tough guy................
Being what the EU's attitude is towards the U.S.A. it might be smart for Trump to pull out ALL the American troops in the EU and bring them home.

Let the EU deal with Putin and ISIS all by themselves and see how long it takes for the EU to beg to bring the American troops back to Europe.
Marsupial - | 978    
18 Mar 2017  #588

Well Crow the first problem is the economy of russia. Things have to improve there first because as is they are an example of economic failure. So if they could fix their own home there would be more credibility. If they stop exterminating politicians of the opposing parties, install better human rights and so on. Without these things they are nothing in the eyes of the world. It all takes time and their current leader has made sure it would take 10+ years to make progress. Also, he cannot be the leader. They they don't have the brains to make a decent country like that. They have no clue how to win hearts and minds at all. All they know is threats and despotism.
mafketis 16 | 4,643    
18 Mar 2017  #589

Well Crow the first problem is the economy of russia.

Yes, the economy is utterly dependent on resource extraction and very little effort is made to maintain/upgrade infrastructure or build an economy less dependent on finite resources, but.... lining the pockets of Putin's cronies comes first. But as soon as he starts killing foreigners the Russian sheeple fall in line behind their master.
Crow 135 | 5,884    
18 Mar 2017  #590

Economy of Russia isn`t in bigger troubles then economies of any power in the world.

If they stop ............... All they know is threats and despotism.

Unfortunately, its the way of the world in which we live in. Sometimes its less obvious, sometimes more. Les`t not go into Clinton`s and generally USA methods of policing the world, into cheep labor force in China, into pharmaceutical mafia and governmental terrorism on the west of Europe, into female organ mutilation in Saudi Arabia, etc, etc examples of sickness of human society. Let`s not. Let`s pretend that we don`t see this around us.
jon357 67 | 12,607    
18 Mar 2017  #591

Economy of Russia isn`t in bigger troubles

It's actually very vulnerable at the moment.
Crnogorac3 2 | 223    
18 Mar 2017  #592

Putin Prepares For Invasion of Europe

russia-insider.com/en/politics/putin-prepares-invasion-europe-massive-cuts-military-spending/ri19243

With Massive Cuts to Military Spending

Russia announces "deepest defense budget cuts since 1990s". Putin must be stopped before it's too late
johnny reb 13 | 2,540    
18 Mar 2017  #593

The reduction represents the largest cut to military expenditure in the country since the early 1990s.

No doubt Russia's economy has crumbled.
Trump and Putin are pals and are lining each others pockets.
Presently the U.S. is much more concerned about N. Korea's nuclear ambitions.
My guess is that will be the next country that the U.S. blows up in the very near future if their leader is not removed quickly by China.

Poland should feel safe knowing that Russia is not a threat militarily, it's just that nobody trust them because of their track record and that is why they need to be kept in check.

That is what the American G.I.'s in Poland are presently helping in doing.
Marsupial - | 978    
18 Mar 2017  #594

They play tough and bully but this is precisely what happens to the tough and bullies. Eventually people gang up.on them and call their bluff. The biggest problem they have is that they don't know how to talk normally and drop the silly rhetoric. People say it's that they invaded ukraine but i don't agree. Ukraine doesn't count because they are stupid with their nazi symbolism and retarded nazi views. The ones i met here also have the same retarded views. There is something fundamentally stupid about living next to russia and being a pseudo nazi. It's more that they seem to hold everybody in some type of disdain and that is a very bad idea. Not sure that i agree putin and trump are pals.
johnny reb 13 | 2,540    
19 Mar 2017  #595

Poland met it's obligations of paying the 2% of their economic output agreed upon to be in NATO in 2016.
Germany only paid 1.18% and needs to pony up because that is a whole hell of a lot of money.
German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen on Sunday rejected U.S. President Donald Trump's claim that Germany owes NATO and the United States "vast sums" of money for defense.

"There is no debt account at NATO," von der Leyen said in a statement, adding that it was wrong to link the alliance's target for members to spend 2 percent of their economic output on defense by 2024 solely to NATO.

Well that is what the agreement was so why is it now that the United States and other countries like Poland who have paid their agreed upon share have to cover almost half of Germany's portion for their defense ????
delphiandomine 80 | 15,898    
19 Mar 2017  #596

Poland met it's obligations of paying the 2% of their economic output agreed upon to be in NATO in 2016.

Allegedly. The reality is that many big orders were cancelled, meaning that the budgeted 2% quite possibly wasn't spent.
TheOther 5 | 3,079    
19 Mar 2017  #597

Well that is what the agreement was so why is it now that the United States and other countries like Poland who have paid their agreed upon share

A few things to remember: the agreement was to reach 2% of GDP by 2024. If Poland or some other countries reach that benchmark earlier than necessary, that's their decision. Poland's or Greece's GDP is much much lower than Germany's, so you are talking about a lot less money. Second, when German finally reaches the 2% mark, it will have the third largest military budget on the planet. You believe that the other European nations will like that? I read somewhere that most Europeans still fear Germany more than an aggressive Russia, so there you go. The Germans will not risk trouble within the EU just because Trump and his billionaire cronies want to increase not only the (already blown out of proportion) American military budget, but everybody else's as well.
TheOther 5 | 3,079    
19 Mar 2017  #598

already blown out of proportion

Should read "overblown", of course. I was thinking of something else when I originally wrote it.
Crow 135 | 5,884    
19 Mar 2017  #599

What NATO. Poles and Europe would cry for general Ratko Mladic.
Ziemowit 8 | 2,575    
20 Mar 2017  #600

Germany only paid 1.18%

the agreement was to reach 2% of GDP by 2024.

So NATO should stop protecting Germany as well as the US should withdraw their soldiers from the German soil right now and until 2024 when Germany starts to meet its obligation of paying 2% of GDP on the army? Btw, have you noticed that many German politicians opposed the idea of deploying US soldiers in Poland recently because they were afraid this may irritate the Russian bear enormously?

I read somewhere that most Europeans still fear Germany more than an aggressive Russia,

Ah, you think that as soon as Germany have this third largest military budget on the planet, they will soon resume their (in)famous "Drang nach Osten, Drang nach Westen, Drang nach Norden und Drang nach Süden" just as they did in 1939-1941?




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