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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 30


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #121
meanwhile all russia really has to offer is violence

... and you are such defenseless kittens?

Burned the whole world down, until it matched your expectations?

Scared everybody half to death?

Spread an ideology of your supremacy?

-//-

Someone has to fight back.

-//-

Reading what you write, it seems like supporting China and Iran is the only right way to go - if you want to be on the right side.

Russia - obviously - the only country mad enough to make you suffer.

Russia has a world historical role. Everyone else was too afraid to go "all in".


mafketis  47 | 12389
26 Aug 2026   #122
Spread an ideology of your supremacy?

America is superior (where do you choose to live)?

supporting China and Iran is the only right way to go

A country that starved tens of millions of people to death (I know russians think that's cooool) and the same party is still in power.

Iran kills women who show their hair in public.

the only country mad enough to make you suffer

That is true.... suffering is russia's main export product. russians get off on misery but rational people dont'.


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #123
America is superior

America has existed for a little more than 250 years.

When you were growing your balls, we wiped the floor with Swedes and Frenchmen...

Before you even existed - we broke the back of The Horde and the Teutonic Knights.

Germans - we domesticated as well - as household pets, and taught the Japanese a lesson they still can't forget - despite prior embarrassments.

We raised China. Raised India. And South Africa, and Cuba and Vietnam and North Korea.

-//-

I think in this case, America messed with the wrong group of people, b/c Russia won't give up, and it doesn't care about your silly threats.


ItsChinasFuture
26 Aug 2026   #124
. and you are such defenseless kittens?

The truth is, you are both has-beens clinging to past glories. One wishing desperately to recreate the Soviet Union (or Russian Empire), the other trying to get back to its 20th century heyday of US supremacy. One led by an increasingly desperate ex-KGB man whose likelihood of getting novichok in his tea grows with every day of the stupid war he's mired in, another by a reality TV grifter with no idea what he's doing.

Meanwhile, Xi Jinping shakes his head in amusement while his country polls higher than either of you in terms of the rest of the world's approval ratings: bbc.com/news/articles/cd959q11g54o < they are completely sick of both your bullshit*t.


mafketis  47 | 12389
26 Aug 2026   #125
Germans - we domesticated as well - as household pets

Then why do Germans (despite all the problems of that country) live better than russians by any rational calculation?

We raised China.

You helped them kill tens of millions of people.... I guess in the russian world that counts as 'help'....

Why do you live in the US if russia is so superior?

Xi Jinping shakes his head in amusement

Another stupid, worthless dictator who's set his country back decades and the Chinese 'economy' is a house of cards.


cms neuf  3 | 2502
26 Aug 2026   #126
b/c North Nigeria won't give up

They gave up in 1917, and in 1991. They will give up this time too - plenty already packed their bags and left to the failing decadent west


Velund  1 | 521
26 Aug 2026   #127
Then why do Germans (despite all the problems of that country) live better than russians..

They borrowed too much and trusted those political weirdos too much. Europeans are now seeing their standard of living decline, and it will hit the Germans harder than it will Southern Europe, which isn't quite as used to living in (relative) luxury. ;)


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1316
26 Aug 2026   #128
That is true.... suffering is russia's main export product. russians get off on misery but..

Right on Muff' I was tempted to answer, the maniacal, hallucination, by Russian propagandist, but you save me from dirtying my hands, not to mention you did it in the more diplomatic and civilized manner. Answering total lies and fabrications require refine, polite control I am not always capable. Facing blatant disregard for truth I often regress to sarcasm, mockery and ridicule.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1316
26 Aug 2026   #129
Teutonic Knights.

You are wrong often, but now you left the rails end without the rudder meander, totally lost in the wasteness of stratosphere.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Aug 2026   #130
The reasons why, Maf, in answer to your question, are that West Germany aka the current Federal Republic wasn't destroyed by a dead system known as Communism, the sworn enemy of individual enterprise and competition.


cms neuf  3 | 2502
27 Aug 2026   #131
Europeans are now seeing their standard of living decline,

I love it when the North Nigerians lecture us on living standards


mafketis  47 | 12389
27 Aug 2026   #132
West Germany aka the current Federal Republic

Akshally.... The DDR had much higher living standards than anywhere in the cccp. Even Poland, during rationing had higher living standards than the cccp.

Anything dominated by russians tends to turn into a rabbit den of corruption and theft and povery and misery. That's what they're capable of....


OP jon357  78 | 25991
27 Aug 2026   #133
do you think it's crazy... that: 1) America helps Ukrainians kill Russians 2) Russia helps..

Neither country should have started these wars. Both should stop.

Brits are not afraid of Ruskis.

We are not. Whatever they may try.


Korvinus  9 | 878
27 Aug 2026   #134
Europeans are now seeing their standard of living decline

Oh no, the plan to freeze Europe fails again? Who could have known 😃


AntV  7 | 1243
27 Aug 2026   #135
The Russian press has begun writing a little bit about what was offered. The Americans..

WSJ reports the visit was about Russia attacking European NATO members. I always think there is more under the surface of these reports, but I'm sure things like the explosive drone found under Uke plane in Germany, the missile/drone that recently hit Poland, etc were brought up.

The last thing Trump wants right now is a widening of either of the conflicts the US is involved in. It's not merely about the political, ie the midterms, it's also about the limits of our resources.


Bobko  32 | 3408
27 Aug 2026   #136
now you left the rails end without the rudder meander, totally lost in the wasteness..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice?wprov=sfti1

WSJ reports the visit was about Russia attacking European NATO members

Everyone is reporting different things.

In the Russian reports yesterday there was nothing about the Baltics, nukes, or Iran. Just various ceasefire proposals.

In some of the American reports today, it sounds as if Ratcliffe flew in to prevent nothing less than WW3.

it's also about the limits of our resources.

This makes sense, too.


cms neuf  3 | 2502
28 Aug 2026   #138
In the North Nigerian reports yesterda

Which mean nothing as it's a country where you can literally be sent to Siberia just for calling the SMO a war, and you can be poisoned for criticizing the president


mafketis  47 | 12389
28 Aug 2026   #139
russian guy in France acting very russian (that is, killing random people)

x.com/nexta_tv/status/2093179265785254112

russia = death cult


Velund  1 | 521
28 Aug 2026   #140
From the Telegram channel "Kamil Askerkhanov - Opinion." I take my time to translate...

Three very interesting figures appeared in Moscow within just a few days.

Subrahmanyam Jaishankar-India's foreign minister and a man who is far more deeply involved in the strategic planning of India's elite than it usually appears from the outside. Paul Richard Gallagher-effectively the Vatican's foreign minister. And finally, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, whose visit they tried hard not to publicize until the very last moment.

There is, of course, a conspiracy theory that Ratcliffe was merely a cover, and that in reality, someone else flew to Moscow-a figure of much greater stature who represents not so much Trump's inner circle as a certain segment of the American establishment.

What's far more interesting is something else.

Why did they all end up in Moscow at practically the same time?

As early as July 21, I drew attention to the upcoming APEC summit. In my view, it is precisely this summit that is becoming the central focal point of this entire diplomatic maneuver. Putin, Xi, and Trump are all expected to attend.

And if they really intend to discuss not individual wars, sanctions, and tariffs, but the overall configuration of the next phase, then everything must be prepared in advance for this meeting. Such matters are not negotiated by top leaders at the negotiating table. They arrive when the main options have already been laid out, the red lines have been drawn, and the mediators have done most of their work.

This, perhaps, explains the current flurry of activity surrounding Moscow.

India is particularly interesting. It is not a member of APEC. Modi will not be at this table. However, just before this major diplomatic round, Jaishankar is coming to Moscow to meet with Putin. This, too, looks like a coordination of positions-and Modi himself will meet with Xi at the BRICS summit in India.

The Vatican, too, does not appear to be a random guest in this scenario. Especially when one considers how deeply the Holy See is historically embedded in Europe's closed diplomatic channels. And for some reason, the CIA director also shows up on the scene.

Too many coincidences in just a few days.

But it gets even more interesting from here.

Following a series of Asian summits, the December G20 is on the horizon. And there, it seems, a completely different conversation may already begin.

If at APEC, Putin, Xi, and Trump can indeed define at least the basic contours of future coexistence among the major centers of power, then the G20 becomes a convenient platform where this framework can be communicated to the rest.

The U.S. is already preparing for the G20 to discuss Chinese "imbalances," Iranian trade, access to the dollar system, and confidence in U.S. debt.
Perhaps these are the first outlines of future rules.

Who remains within the dollar system. Who receives limited access to it. Who moves to the Eurasian system. How trade will be organized between these spheres. What currencies will be used for settlements. Who will ensure the security of the new trade corridors. And, finally, what to do with countries that are still trying to sit on several chairs at once.

In that case, the sequence of events looks quite interesting.

First, a series of negotiations and shuttle diplomacy. Then the SCO. Next, the key moment-APEC and a possible meeting between Putin, Xi, and Trump. And only after that, the G20, which brings together a much broader range of countries.

In other words, first reach an agreement among those who are capable of setting the rules.

And then explain the rules to the rest.

The Ukrainian conflict has long since become just one issue among many in a much larger bargaining process and the future configuration of Europe (I recently wrote a very long piece about this on a private channel (t.me/KamilAskerkhanovPrivate/188)). The same goes, incidentally, for Iran, tariffs, sanctions, and even the U.S. debt.

Because the very structure of the world after the end of the current era of globalization is now the subject of negotiation.

And that's when Russia-which, until very recently, they were planning to "isolate"-looks particularly amusing.

For some reason, Americans, Indians, and representatives from the Vatican are heading to Moscow ahead of key summits.

Apparently, they've done a very good job of isolating it.



cms neuf  3 | 2502
28 Aug 2026   #141
If there was a secret meeting of major powers, Nigeria itself would be further up the list than backward failing North Nigeria

Who on earth would invite those dipsomaniac war criminals to a civilized meeting ?

The only summits where they would be welcome would be on the future of Amateur **** in the AI age.


Miloslaw  23 | 5712
28 Aug 2026   #142
For some reason, Americans, Indians, and representatives from the Vatican are heading to Moscow ahead..

Velund, you are a Russian idiot.The world knows that if this war continues, Russia will be decimated.And despite what you think, that is not what The West wants.A destroyed Russia is not good for the global economy.These people are not coming to praise you for your lack of success in Ukraine,but to warn you that continiung this war would be insane for Russia.

Russia is fvcked part 247.




AntV  7 | 1243
28 Aug 2026   #143
Russia will be decimated.And despite what you think, that is not what The West wants.

Maybe not decimated-just broken up.

Here's Kaja Kallas, current Vice President of the European Commission and High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security.

facebook.com/watch/?v=1469412024658444&vanity=glenn.diesen&hpir=1

Not exactly the way to assuage the paranoid fears of a country that invaded another country because of security concerns, ie NATO up against its border.

We need a different tack that addresses those paranoid fears to bring this hellscape war to an end, IMO.


mafketis  47 | 12389
28 Aug 2026   #144
NATO up against its border.

Well by invading Ukraine they have more NATO on their borders than ever... and are so worried about it that they pulled almost all the soldiers on their NATO borders to send them to Ukraine to die...

Nothing any other country could do or not do that could have prevented or stopped russia from invading Ukraine, apparently something they've wanted to do for decades.


mafketis  47 | 12389
28 Aug 2026   #145
Does anyone know if Torq was in Poznań?

x.com/GoniecPL/status/2093338457418486220


AntV  7 | 1243
28 Aug 2026   #146
Nothing any other country could do or not do that could have prevented or stopped..

You have any idea why they may have invaded? Anything precipitate its 2014 invasion?

Could the Maidan be a possibility? Imagine a duly elected pro-Western Ukrainian leader being overthrown in Ukraine and during the protest that overthrows said pro-Western leader, Medvedev flies in to support the protest.

Might get our western panties in a bunch.

The prevailing Western approach to this sh!t show is not producing anything but more death and destruction. The uncivilizes Russian orcs must pay
Mantra is as much a meatgrinding producer as the Russian butchery.

This will not end until serious and mature men sit down and negotiate and make concessions. But, that won't happen while the masses give the elites cover by being rabid dogs hell bent on demanding Putin's head in a platter.

The above is just my well-formed brain's opinion.


mafketis  47 | 12389
28 Aug 2026   #147
duly elected ... leader being overthrown

No one was "overthrown" he fled the country (like Ziobro or Romanowski in Poland).

And his popularity had reached rock bottom because of out of control corruption and his putting the EU agreement on hold was the straw that broke the camel's back.

until serious and mature men sit down and

reward the aggressors? How does that usually work out?


AntV  7 | 1243
28 Aug 2026   #148
No one was "overthrown" he fled the country

Hahaha! OK, he was forced to leave the country...overthrown; call it what you want.

Still the perspective remains.

reward the aggressors

We're well past the point of rewards. That argument is trite at this point. Way too much blood from both sides have been spilled and damage both economically and interiorly inflicted to make the claim of a reward being handed out.

This is about ending further bloodshed and destruction and preventing an expansion that will not produce the outcome many Euros and some Ams want: a dismantled Russia.

Let's find a way to respect Russia's fundamental (and valid) security concerns, while providing Ukraine honest security.

And the West, especially my beloved country, needs to stop wanting to control every fecking capital in the world.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1316
29 Aug 2026   #149
Russia's fundamental (and valid) security concerns, while providing Ukraine honest security.

Western guaranties and promises, are not wort a spit, or the price of the paper, with all the signatures on it. Didn't the world, including Russia
guarantied the Ukrainians safety if only they destroyed its nuclear arsenal? Stop hallucinating about honest security, it does not exist. Their nukes were security; there are no honest brokers, only big Slavic hearts, and the will to survive.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1316
29 Aug 2026   #150
Some useful idiots believe Russian valid security concerns, some imaginary plans for invasion of Russian territory, I am sure such plans are being considered by China, hungry for waste expenses of, practically uninhabited land. Zaporoze and Crimea is the fig leaf. It does not make Russia more secure
, excuse is intended for the naive western idiots, it seems to be working to some extent.





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