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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 30


Bobko  32 | 3408
24 Aug 2026   #91
More of America's bully boy tactics

China and India also don't recognize it.

So between America, Russia, China and India - that's three and half billion people that couldn't give a damn about what the ICC rules.

Perhaps about 40% of the globe's population.


OP jon357  78 | 25991
24 Aug 2026   #92
Last year, Zelensky set a new post-Soviet record, by having not one - but two..

Excellent; it shows that nobody is above the law there. Unlike in some places.

If elections were held tomorrow -

Not your problem to worry about.

keep attacking Russian commercial warehouses

Yes, they will.

Anything that damages the economy there is a target.

And a better one than a hospital with 400 children sheltering from your bombs inside, one with "CHILDREN" written in huge letters on the roof and one your country fired a thermobaric ballistic missile at. At least it would have been quick for most of them.

Right - same as all the other human safari war crimes that have been recorded..

They try to deny then obfuscate. Even when there is overwhelming evidence.

America, Russia, China and India

Some of the worst offenders, and not recognising a court means nothing when someone is in the dock.

Why do you excuse war crimes?


Barney  19 | 2193
24 Aug 2026   #93
@Bobko
Those four countries don't like external examination.

The biggest problem the ICC had until it charged Netanyahu was accusations of bias. Bias against developing countries specifically African countries. After Netanyahu's indictment the US decided to destroy the ICC, they were happy with Putin's indictment so what changed? Americas puppet state came under direct pressure from the ICC and the yanks don't like it.


Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1316
25 Aug 2026   #94
Americas puppet state

You are doing the dance of stupid again.

Americas puppet state came under direct pressure from the ICC and the yanks don't like..

ICC did pressure America, how and when? America does not give a flying fu*k about the supposed pressure from ICC.


cms neuf  3 | 2502
25 Aug 2026   #95
Dunno if you saw, but Rubio declared war on the ICC.

A sure sign that something is good and durable is if shallow MAGA morons attack it.

Rubio never expressed any distaste to the ICC until he wedged his nose up Golden Cow's ass.

MAGA will be gone in 2 years - just enough time to get North Nigerian murdering scum and drunk drone pilots in the dock. They can start with the people that decided to bomb shopping malls.


mafketis  47 | 12389
25 Aug 2026   #96
don't like the taste of their own medicine.

Are you talking about russians?

A russian mother is furious with putin and the whole government for getting her son killed, sending his body back without a head and...... stiffing her and not giving her the full payout, using transparent soviet-style bureaucrati fvkkery to do so.

x.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/2092140141930316260

russia is
50% scamathon
50% deathcult
100% loserpalooza


Bobko  32 | 3408
25 Aug 2026   #97
The CIA director is in Moscow.

For the first time since late 2021.

Arrived on a C-17 Globemaster, and drove straight to the Kremlin on a convoy of Suburbans.

Most interesting....

-//-

Is he there to warn Russia not to do something (hybrid attacks in Germany, UK and elsewhere)?

Is he there to forestall a new Russian mobilization and the reopening of a northern front from Bryansk Oblast?

Is he there to negotiate a new "aerial ceasefire"?

Is he there to push everyone towards a deal that Trump can advertise during the midterms? God knows American farmers are suffering from high fertilizer and diesel prices...


Miloslaw  23 | 5712
25 Aug 2026   #98
Russia is fvcked part 245.




Bratwurst Boy  9 | 13169
25 Aug 2026   #99
...Washington reportedly asked Kyiv not to attack Moscow.
🧐

...says BILD tonight!


mafketis  47 | 12389
25 Aug 2026   #100
CIA director is in Moscow. For the first time since late 2021.

Calm down and keep your panties dry....

My guess is that it's as much about Iran as russia.... Trump's misbegotten Iranian misadventure probably takes up a lot more of his brain than russia.

I've seen one analysis that he's keeping it going at a low roar because he knows if he makes progress for peace that Israel will do something to mess it up and probably dealing with Netanyahu is as tricky as dealing with the Iranians who have time on their side in a way Trump doesn't.


OP jon357  78 | 25991
26 Aug 2026   #101
panties

Perhaps asking him what he wants in exchange for shafting Ukraine. What would Putler demand in return?


cms neuf  3 | 2502
26 Aug 2026   #102
A senseless death for this mentally ill British guy who also had addiction issues

news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-yorkshire-lad-believed-to-be-first-briton-to-die-fighting-for-russia-13576834

Feel sorry for his family. Hopefully will put others off going.


OP jon357  78 | 25991
26 Aug 2026   #103
British guy

From Barnsley, the next town to where I come from.

Barnsley district once had 44 coal mines and now has none. There are also long and strong links to Donbas Region in Ukraine going back to the early 70s and before. Someone like that was easy prey to be recruited into that or some other awful activity like Scientology or Fascism and there are probably some more like him in r*SSia right now.

At least he can't do any more harm.


cms neuf  3 | 2502
26 Aug 2026   #104


Couriers in North Lagos will now queue up for rich NNs to bring them gasoline

3 more refineries hit last night - including one 6000 km away. The US has to request a half to bombing while their CIA team were there


AntV  7 | 1243
26 Aug 2026   #105
The CIA director is in Moscow

Could be he went to explain Economic D-Day to Russia and ensure Russia that Am intent is not to harm Russia? It's no secret Zelensky and Bibi are trying to connect the two conflicts.

I wouldn't be shocked if they talked about backdooring Russian oil and gas imports to alleviate the stress on energy markets, either.


mafketis  47 | 12389
26 Aug 2026   #106
Zelensky and Bibi are trying to connect the two conflicts.

Netanyahu is fanatically on the side of russia (despite russia hating Israel) and has not done jack for Ukraine....

Weird theories need some kind of face validity.


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #107
I wouldn't be shocked if they talked about backdooring Russian oil and gas imports to..

Treasury already granted Russia sanctions waivers for seaborne oil shipments, back in the spring - when the war started.

They extended them several times, but then they finally expired in the middle of June.

Not saying Bessent can't do it again...

But Russia's ability to help has also been reduced - through Ukraine's "deep strike" campaign.

What the US and EU need the most from Russia, is diesel. Prior to the strike campaign, Russia was the world's largest exporter of diesel - slightly ahead of the United States. It was an especially important supplier for Europe, but also - since the market is global - important to the price of diesel in the United States.

Russia went from 1 million barrels of diesel exports per day, to around 150-180K by mid July. Then, to keep the domestic market supplied - the Kremlin banned all diesel exports entirely.

Together with the shutting of the Strait of Hormuz, this has triggered a rise in US diesel prices from ~$3.50 to ~$5.30. Yesterday, I read in the WSJ that American farmers are now suffering losses on nearly every major crop category: soyabean, wheat, corn...

So you can grant Russia all the sanctions waivers in the world, but it won't quickly fix the diesel situation. Crude and gas - yes - especially pipeline-born.

Bringing more Russian crude to market can't help all that much, however, because refineries everywhere in the world are already running at "pedal to the metal" rates.

Could be he went to explain Economic D-Day to Russia and ensure Russia that Am..

The Russian press has begun writing a little bit about what was offered.

The Americans offered a partial ceasefire (not clear of what - sea, air, or land), and promised to keep the Ukrainians on a tight leash.

The Russians countered that they would only accept:

1) Total ceasefire on energy infrastructure attacks

2) Total ceasefire on port infrastructure and shipping

3) A moratorium on any strikes deeper than 200 km behind the line of contact (meaning Kiev and Moscow would be safe).

The Americans couldn't commit to this. Given this, the two FSB department heads that met with Ratcliffe, felt it made no sense then for him to meet with Putin (though this was initially on the agenda).

Following his meeting with the heads of the 3rd and 5th Directorates he headed back to the airport.


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #108
Could be he went to explain Economic D-Day to Russia

Regarding this... not sure Russia needs an explanation.

The whole world sees this as a complete joke.

Bessent decided to publish his D-Day article in the FT (not the WSJ for some curious reason).

The comments have been merciless. Posting the top 4.

-//-

The following day, his former boss, Stanley Druckenmiller eviscerated him in his own op-Ed in the WSJ (albeit for his retarded interventions in the bond market).

-//-

Bessent can't convince his own markets that his threats are credible. Judging by the comments in both newspapers - a good 80%+ of the readership find him to be a clown (and not even a funny one).

So what's the point of trying to convince the Russians of anything? If you can't convince your own people, the Russians will be much less inclined to take you seriously.

-//-

I think everything is simple.

The Iran war is going terribly.

The midterms are close - but the Democrats are constantly messing up, giving the Republicans at least a hope at maintaining control.

If Iran cannot be wrapped up by that time, and Ukraine ends up being pummeled by Russian ballistic strikes and a potential further mobilization - then the Trump administration will appear to be the "owner" of not one but two global scale disasters.

Making the Russians and Ukrainians sit down and do a deal, will take a lot of the bite out of what is shaping up to be a total defeat in Iran.

It'll give some voters a sense that the Trump admin has some kinda plan. "Things worked in Venezuela, they sorta worked in Gaza, and are yielding results in Russia. Iran may just require more time...". Something along those lines.


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Bratwurst Boy  9 | 13169
26 Aug 2026   #109
The Americans offered a partial ceasefire (not clear of what - sea, air, or land),..

I dunno where that now fits into:

Zelenskyy awards Elon Musk Ukraine's Order of Freedom for Starlink role

abcnews.com/Business/wireStory/zelenskyy-awards-elon-musk-ukraines-order-freedom-starlink-135965792

....Musk, the founder of SpaceX, has become one of the most influential, and contentious, private sector figures in Ukraine's war effort. His decision to provide Ukraine with access to Starlink, SpaceX's satellite internet network, was critical. It remains a communications lifeline for Ukrainian forces and civilians after Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022.

Starlink has become deeply embedded in Ukraine's military operations, with commanders and soldiers relying on satellite connectivity to communicate and coordinate operations.

Musk's decision-making could shape Ukraine's future military capabilities. Starlink doesn't currently operate over Russian territory, but Zelenskyy wants Musk to reconsider the policy....

If there is a promise to keep the Ukrainians on a tight leash...someone should tell Elon!


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #110
someone should tell Elon!

He has been refusing to turn on Starlink inside Russia (for Ukrainian-registered terminals).

Fedorov, after he got fired - is still "buddy-buddy" with Musk.

Recently there were news reports that he was planning a trip to the States to meet with Musk (which caused quite the uproar, b/c 90% of Ukrainian military age men are not allowed to leave the country).

-//-

I think this is an attempt by the Zelensky admin to peel Elon away from his boyfriend Fedorov.


Bratwurst Boy  9 | 13169
26 Aug 2026   #111
....and now he got a medal!


AntV  7 | 1243
26 Aug 2026   #112
@mafketis
Weird theories need some kind of face validity

I agree, hence the need to validate the claim Bibi is fanatically on the side of Russia.

Just on a purely logical plane, it's a weird claim. Russia has a much closer relationship with Israel's mortal enemy, Iran, than it does Israel.Russia has helped Iran build its nuclear program-the one Bibi has been crying about for decades.

Russia has also been quite critical of Israel's handling of Gaza.

Sure, Russia and Israel cooperate in areas that serve their interests, like during the Syria war, and there are cultural connections, Israel has a lot of citizens with Russian heritage.

But, this is not a fanatical friendship. More a cautious one. Hence, Israel remaining mostly neutral in the Russia-Ukraine war.

heories need some kind of face validity.

Zelensky has made the proposal to Trump that he shouldn't separate the two conflicts. Zelensky has been arguing that Russia is providing Iran with intelligence to strike US targets.

Ukraine hit an Iranian ship in Caspain Sea and validated that strike by saying Russia is helping Iran with intelligence.

Then there's Iran supplying Russia with Shaheds.

So, couple of examples to validate the weird theory.

Info about Bibi's visit with Trump is more shrouded when it comes to melding the two conflicts together, and Bibi and his people did rebuke Ukraine's invitation to meet while they were both in DC ( see the cautious friendship above).

@Bobko

As usual, you make cogent and fine points.


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #113
and now he got a medal!

He's a narcissist for sure, like Trump. So maybe this will be meaningful to him.

Tbh - Ukraine should have given him this medal ages ago. Maybe three years back.

When Biden held an EV summit at the White House, and invited everyone including GM and Ford there - but not Elon - he got really upset. In his interviews you can track how that drove him along the path of eventually backing Trump to the hilt.

Trump... of course... cancelled the tax incentives for buying electric cars, and then later called Trump an "autist"... but it's not clear if Elon learned his lesson.

Point is - Elon likes to be recognized, needs to be loved, and cares very much what people think about him (ITS WHY HE BOUGHT TWITTER).

So giving him a medal is a smart move by Ukraine, even if it's late.


Bratwurst Boy  9 | 13169
26 Aug 2026   #114
So giving him a medal is a smart move by Ukraine

I had the same thoughts as I read about it...even if you are a Trillionaire, such a foreign medal is hard to come by!


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #115
Russia is providing Iran with intelligence to strike US targets.

This issue apparently was raised in Moscow.

What I had hoped for, is that America promised to stop aiding Ukraine with intelligence, and Russia would stop providing the same to Iran.

I think that was exactly Putin's calculus in supporting Iran - to get America to "f*ck off" from Ukraine.

At the same time, Trump seems to be completely unbothered by the fact that Russia is aiding Iran in striking US military installations and personnel in the region.

-//-

Anyway long story short, the initial reports seem to indicate that no deal was to be made.

-//-

Russian hardliners think it's a complete "p*ssy" move to sell Iran down the river.

Iran helped Russia - after all - even when it was very unpopular.

They shipped drones and missiles to Russia in large quantities - even as they had an acute need for the same items.

Doing a deal behind their back, certainly feels rotten...

That being said I think it would have been the correct thing to do.

Much more depends on Russia and America getting along, than on the hurt feelings of Persians. We can get them back some other way, at some later time.

-//-

Problem, of course, is that Iranians will remember how Russia treated them.


Miloslaw  23 | 5712
26 Aug 2026   #116
All this chat is pointless.... Russia is still fvcked part 246.




Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #117
On a related note, do you think it's crazy... that:

1) America helps Ukrainians kill Russians

2) Russia helps Iran kill Americans

???

Why does Putin still go to Alaska, to meet with a man, that with his signature... signed off on the death of thousands of Russians?

Why does Trump send his most trusted lieutenants to talk to Russians, who helped Iran strike critical infrastructure in Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, etc?

-//-

Is it all just a game to these guys?

chat is pointless.... Russia is still fvcked part 246.

Don't let any dangerous outside ideas enter your brain, Milo - well done!


Bobko  32 | 3408
26 Aug 2026   #118
Give me 100,000 Miloslaws - and I could conquer the continent.

The ideological quality of this type of soldier is unparalleled.

For whatever the man lacks in discipline and physical preparedness - it is compensated by iron political preparation.


Miloslaw  23 | 5712
26 Aug 2026   #119
Don't let any dangerous outside ideas enter your brain, Milo

There aren't any,Brits are not afraid of Ruskis.You are a toothless tiger,nothing to be afraid of.


mafketis  47 | 12389
26 Aug 2026   #120
I could conquer the continent.

Sooooo booooorrrrriinnggg

russians are so boring with their delusions of grandeur.... meanwhile all russia really has to offer is violence

x.com/UkrReview/status/2092693044340343028

and poverty, let's not forget poverty...

x.com/EuromaidanPress/status/2092630185543618908

russia could be rich and respected but it pours all its resources into the pockets of its extractive elite and war and dirty and misery is what's left for everybody else.....





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