Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 30

A train full of North Korean missiles has been neutralised in r*SSia.

How desperate must they be to buy crap weapons from there/

And the wildberries count is up to 13 and soon all will be gone. Then on to the next target. The orcs are even having to import petrol (or trying to since those ships are also being neutralised).

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@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

On 13 August 1962, the very first song sung in outer space echoed through orbit-and it was Ukrainian. 🚀🇺🇦
Cosmonaut Pavel Popovich sang "Дивлюсь я на небо та й думку гадаю" ("I Look at the Sky and Think")

facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=2979087169091328

@amiga500▲ 0▼ 0

Fake news.

The story has been debunked: the person who initially circulated it subsequently acknowledged that the alleged GUR operation was not confirmed, and investigators found that an earlier version of the story and accompanying image appeared to have been AI-generated.

And the photo you posted was taken almost 3 years ago - 11 November 2023 (a freight-train derailment caused by an explosive device in Russia's Ryazan Oblast).

We all got used to Milo posting fake propaganda crap for the slightly retarded but it's a bit disappointing to see you doing the same.

It's Saturday, the weather is lovely. It's better to take your family for a walk...

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@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

Don't worry, Torq. There will be plenty more bangs.

It's almost as if you want Ukraine to lose.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

Why would I worry?


Why? Because I'm against the state-level worship of nazi-collaborating genocidal animals whose leader, Bandera, was treated like a guest of honour by the Nazis in Zellenbaum: had a comfortable, isolated two-room space that included a bedroom furnished similarly to a normal apartment and a small receiving/guest area, was eating meals from the SS dining room and permitted communication or contact with the outside world, including his wife? Don't be ridiculous.

I want two things:

1. For Ukraine to win.
2. For Ukraine to stop worshipping genocide perpetrators and Waffen-SS units.

If I got these two things, I would be absolutely delighted. But if it's only one of them (either) I'd be quite happy too.

Apart from that, it is for Ukraine to decide whether they want to stick to no.2 or join the family of civilised nations. Their choice.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

That's pretty well the 1930s and 1940s population of Germany. There are certainly some there even now who would be happier if they'd won the war, that and actual fascists in their parliament.

No shortage of far rightists in Poland either, even now.


Thisnis all that's important. Defeating r*SSia.

Bandera, who was in Sachsenhausen, was who he was. Not a Dirlewanger, a Franco or an Eichmann but still bad and of that time.

None of them good people, all of them dead.

Now there's a worse specimen of humanity to defeat.Everything must be about that and about the breakup of that society so they cannot do this again.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

... and there are far leftists all over the world who would prefer if Poland had lost the Battle of Warsaw. In their own weirdly consistent way they say that Russian revolutionaries would have joined forces with the Polish and German revolutionaries and the communist revolution would have been victorious - therefore, no Hitler, no WW2, no Holocaust - one happy human communist family, means of production owned by the workers etc. Both far rightist and far leftist people are retarded in their own way. Best to keep well away from both.


Good thing we agree on something.


The breakup of one rogue nuclear state into a dozen smaller rogue nuclear states? No, thank you. The defeat in Ukraine should wake up the Russian society, cause the regime change and deep social transformation towards a more democratic country, coexisting peacefully with all its neighbours.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

Can't say I've ever heard anyone 'around the world' ever mention that battle. Do you mean Tabkies and Bolsheviks?

Certainly chances were missed regarding the German revolution and of course they got something far worse.

This however isn't a thread about historical grievances.


Why would they be nuclear? Even the rump r*SSia around Moscow would have ti demilitarise.


It would certainly be a first. Even if the r*SSian federation continued to exist in some form, parts would need to be separated and added to more stable countries. Karelia to Finland for example and parts of Siberia to China. And if course Krolewiec to Lithuania Poland.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

Oh, so you plan to take nuclear missiles away from Russia?

Good luck with that.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

Is their demilitarisation not a matter for the free world to manage after the r*SSian surrender?


Ukraine doesn't need 'luck'. They need missiles and unwavering support.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

We and what armies???

Be realistic Jon, there is no international alliance willing to put their boots into Russia...

@Bratwurst Boy▲ 0▼ 0

Let's see.

So far, China has remained aloof. They are the coming superpower and have an equal or greater claim on parts of Siberia.


So they will remain a recurrent threat to Poland and elsewhere. All the more reason to be firm with them now and cut them no slack whatsoever.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

Hear hear, Russians are not Ukrainians and won't give up their nuclear umbrella without boots on the ground physically removing every single piece from them.

No Russian will trust American, British or French guarantees. What would result be? More at mercy of Ukrainian drone strikes? Silent threat of North Korean nuclear attacks and no defence against human waves of Chinese soldiers.

It's not realistic unless Russia accept unconditional surrender. It won't

Russian leadership merely has to show signs of accepting Ukrainian territorial integrity, which it won't unless the possibility of civil unrest or occupation of Kremlin becomes realistic enough for enough Russians to pressure Putin into signing a peace treaty before it's too late for them.

Knowing Russian society, the pressure won't be hard enough until it's too late cause they are stubborn and risk civil war instead of calm brains to win. They tried that in 1989 and didn't like it, so most likely they will have it worse cause they expect things to become better, not worse.

@Mr Grunwald▲ 0▼ 0

I would suggest that it is you that is the retard peddling propaganda....Why do you love Russians so much?

Putin is biting off more than he can chew.Moldova and Romania have stood up to Russia,Poland is on the brink and if Putin is stupid enough, as has been suggested, to attack Norway,Russia is fvcked part 232.Putin is pushing towards WW3.......



@Miloslaw▲ 0▼ 0

Because they're our brothers, Christians and Slavs.

They have a lunatic government at the moment that needs to be removed from power, and their war of aggression needs to stop, but they're still our brothers.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

You guys talking about Putin, but he is on the way out. Who will replace him and what he's gonna do with the war - will he continue Putin's path or change it for better or worse? Someone who's in Russia may know better what's going on?

@Rufus▲ 0▼ 0

Hahahahaha! Russians are Christians and Slavs?

Are you for real?Russians are NOT Slavs and many of them are Muslims, not Christians.

I think that you are ill informed.

@Miloslaw▲ 0▼ 0

Oh really, am sure Ukrainians enjoy the brotherly love, and our Russian brothers overvehemently support, lunatic form of brotherly love.

@Przelotnyptak1▲ 0▼ 0

They are best seen in photos, not in everyday life, as is typical in family.

@Alien▲ 0▼ 0

In 1943-44, real form of this brotherly love to all neighbours was demonstrated. Want one more round?

@Velund▲ 0▼ 0

North Nigerian drunk rapists are still using weapons from those days LOL - not much use against modern drones

@cms neuf▲ 0▼ 0

I have no words for your stupidity, guys.

Yes, Russians are our brothers. You are happy when Westerners write bullsh*t like 'r*SSia' or 'orc'? For them you are just 'toilet-cleaning orcs' and 'buffer-zone subhumans' (actual phrases from English-language internet boards), and you're "not white, you're Slavs" (another actual quote). We were supposed to be turned into a slave workforce and eventually run through crematoria chimneys - guess who saved us... yip, that's right - Russians.

Blood is thicker than water. Don't forget this.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

Somehow you don't extend that same brotherhood to Ukrainians...


Saved us by killing many of us, taking away our freedom etc. Not to mention they saved us just because they got pissed off with Germans. Just few years earlier they were happy to attack with them.

@Lenka▲ 0▼ 0

Of course I do...

https://polishforums.com/genealogy/russian-dna-37610/3/#msg2071496


As if we never invaded Russia or killed them.

"Taking away our freedom" - right. Under the horrible enslavement by Russia Polish population rose from 23 million (1945) to 40 million (1988). Horrible enslavement indeed. Almost doubling the population in 44 years. Now 37 years after regaining "freedom" we are dying out at one of the fastest rates in Europe.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0

You keep harping on about that. Things done by young villagers during the worst period of their country's history, people who had survived genocide.

Nobody says it was a good thing, just as nobody says that Katyń, Bucha or any other of your country's atrocities were good things. However you won't stop Poland's support for Ukraine. They are better than you.


And occupied you for decades.

Sad that this thread keeps reverting to historical grievance and romantic nationalism. The threats faced now are more important.

@jon357▲ 0▼ 0

Don't spend your time, arguing with an incurable (im)patient.

"The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others."

― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

@Velund▲ 0▼ 0

Meanwhile.... back in russia....

Old and busted: Своих не бросаем. (We don't leave our own behind.)

New hotness: Избиваем своих до смерти. (We beat our own to death.)

x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/2088953077835481413

Same as it ever was....

@mafketis▲ 0▼ 0

For once you are right, especially when there is no difference, Ukrainian and Polish blood is exactly the same. Slavia, in theory is a wonderful concept,
But I don't see real rush/movement to achieve it. Interpretation of Slavia Russian style, as practiced in Ukraine, hell trough the history is
attempt to subjugate, dominance nothing more than enslavement. Not in my lifetime, but in the future Russian do wake up and Slavia become a reality,
we take our rightful place the ranks of humanity. Don't count on perfidious West to do it for us, Unity, brotherly love is the way. even Serbia deserved our support in the time of need, not the condemnation in order to cover Slick Willie sexual escapades.

@Przelotnyptak1▲ 0▼ 0

Crow, is it you?

@Korvinus▲ 0▼ 0

Wow! Ptak is suddenly talking sense - what happened? 0_0


Of course. Serbia is the Core Land - the spirit of Slavia is still very strong there.

@Torq▲ 0▼ 0