Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 29

"Poland issues a deadline for Ukraine: face its Nazi past instead of celebrating it, or risk losing its EU path"


aljazeera.com/features/2025/7/19/genocide-or-tragedy-ukraine-poland-at-odds-over-volyn-massacre-of-1943

Good news for Poland, no? Poland keeps the Eu card as they can veto Ukraine access.
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That's from Al-Jazeera, is nothing new to anybody here and nobody has issued a 'deadline'. The historical aspects are not an impediment to EU enlargement. It would, by the way, lead to a very detailed examination of and publicity about both Polish and Ukrainian history which would not of course be from either the Polish or Ukrainian points of view. Their voices wouldn't be the ones listened to.

This topic has been done to death here over recent months.

Of course there are some in PL terrified of UA joining. the EU. So far, it's been a kind of 'Slavic Tiger'. Ulkraine which (in the major cities, anyway) looks and feels very developed, would take that mantle.
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And now, JD Vanya is begging Ukraine to stop neutralising r*SSian shadow fleet vessels in r*SSian ports.

Shame he hasn't asked his boss's boss in Moscow to stop their orcs firing ballistic missiles at apartment blocks.
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Hm... you might be onto something here, Jonno. Especially now when Ukraine, among other things, is building logistics infrastructure with the intention of taking over the Asia-EU trade routes and becoming the gate for Asian goods entering Europe by bypassing Poland. Add to this their open declarations that after the war they see Poland as their economic and political rivals, and their constant glorifying of genocidal UPA animals... hmm...

... so what are you saying, Jonno? That it would be in Poland's best interest for Ukraine to lose the war and become a Russian sattelite? This is quite shocking coming from you, but I must admit that there is certain logic to your reasoning.
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If Ukraine becomes a russian satellite again... then so will Poland.

If you disagree, then what's your cunning plan to stop that?
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Scaremongering.

Russia has neither the intention of nor capability to conquer Poland. Also, what would be the purpose? Ukraine gives them heavy industry, the best farming lands in the world and strategic depth. What would Poland give them? Lifetime supply of holy water and constant source of problems, unrest and uprisings? Nonsensical.

Jonno is right is his cynicism, I'm afraid. Poland wants Ukrainian immigrants to stay here - they are the best kind: culturally similar, quickly assimilating, contributing around 3% of our GDP, and paying around 20 billion pln in taxes (much more than they receive in social help). If Ukraine wins and becomes the next Slavic Tiger, those people might want to go back there. If Russia conquers them, they will stay here. Also, other factors that Jon seems to imply, although it's cruel, also point to Ukraine losing the war as not being the worst scenario for Poland.

I would tend to think that after the war Ukraine and Poland might find a lot of areas to complement each other's economies and cooperate, but who knows - Jon knows Ukrainians better - maybe they would indeed try to "replace" Poland in many areas instead of peacefully cooperating with us. Fair play to Jon357 for pointing this out to us.
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I never thought you hate Ukrainians, I always thought your driving force is hatred of Poles, and Ukrainians were just collateral damage because they were aligned with Poland.
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... and you were right, I don't.


So you are retarded.

The Polish problem has very often been people like you, Kurvinus - people who hate Russia more than they love Poland.
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Russia has had this intention many times and has often succeeded.
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They're ideally placed to do this, and have good infrastructure, a skilled population and are well ahead of where PL was even a decade after EU entry.

They will be the new Slavic Tiger.


Don't be daft. Poland will survive; it has roads through it and is next to Germany. And Ukraine will need guest workers.


One of many reasons never to trust r*SSia.
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A golden rule in life:

Pay attention to what your enemies do and say but never neglect to pay equal attention to actions and words of your "friends". :)
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Our emeny is r*SSia.

Ukraine is a friend and given the likely growth in economy and status after EU entry, a friend that is worth keeping.

For the past few years, Ukrainians have been going to work in PL. Why not the opposite as time goes on?
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Every move, by Trump administration is delayed and opposed, by democrats.
Fair economic competition, always beneficial to both sides. So, what is your fear, where the inferiority complex coming from, we are same people with the same brains, so relax we will hold our own.


Stop right there, you have no right for twisting the facts to fit your propaganda desires. As a Pole you should be ashamed of yourself. Don't be afraid, Bobko will love you anyway.
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The Republicans control the WH, Congress and the Supreme Court - and it's still the Democrats fault? Sad sack.
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Russian men are refusing to sign up to die in Ukraine.Rightly so.

Most Ukrainian men are still prepared to fight for their country.

This explains why...... Russia is fvcked part 228.....


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Ahahahahahahaha!

*cough* *cough*

Muahahahahaha.
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Laugh riot....

x.com/VictorKvert2008/status/2087290135201169408
x.com/Erdbeerdampfe/status/2085379885371953328

why do russians hate their soldiers?
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Our soldiers go straight to Heaven.

Your soldiers.... well, who knows where they go.
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They've never cared.
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After being a soldier in service of the h3llspawn dwarf tsar..... even h3ll would seem like an upgrade.

russia = degenerate culture for degenerate people....

x.com/saintjavelin/status/2084552479702675940
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What can be the punishment for the drone safaris? Though it is just individual murder it feels as depraved as the holocaust - how should the individuals and their commanders be dealt with ?
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Bobko... didn't believe it was happening at first and claimed he wanted the guilty punished and now he supports it. russians don't seem to have any kind of internal moral compass...
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Velund was also disputing that Bucha was real.

And these are two of the more educated population so I am sure the level of denial in small towns will be immense.

One solution is that used by the Allies after the camps were liberated - the NN civilians must sit in a cinema and watch films of the atrocities. No booze will be served, no sunflower seeds. They must see the level of morality their army has
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Quite sobering and underlines the importance of Ukraine defeating the illegal and unprovoked invasion.

If r*SSia won:
The current leadership of Ukraine would be killed, jailed or forced into exile.

In so doing, they and 'NATO' (as the proxy for the West) would be blamed for the war, and the United States and its allies would see a further catastrophic degradation of their deterrent capability, thereby encouraging adventurism among every adversary on the planet. Moscow, for its part, would probably seek to install a puppet president heading a government made up of Ukrainians loyal to Russia.

A systematic campaign against pro-independence Ukrainians would ensue, almost certainly leading to a civil war within unoccupied areas of Ukraine, and a guerrilla resistance war against Russia in areas occupied by Russian troops.

The rest of the article gets worse
theprint.in/pageturner/excerpt/russian-victory-ukraine-us-deterrence-china-un/2725768/
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You seem to have been proved right, but this has been true for over a century!

Russia is fvcked part 229.


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It looks like Ukraine wants to target half of Poland's population (those who may still be favorable to Ukraine) and influence Polish elections.

'According to their sources, Ukraine will hire a PR agency to promote their country among the remaining Ukrainian-friendly half of the Polish population.'

korybko.substack.com/p/ukraine-is-reportedly-plotting-what

Similar to how Israel plays Trump and politics in the US.
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And the other half wants a much longer border with russia..... noted.

Got no time for no kacapofili... they wanna be buddies with russia they can go there (plenty of room for them).
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Shukhevych: The Musical - now touring Poland, sponsored by the Ministry of Strategic Friendship. 🤣

But it's a bit confusing - do they think Poles are divided into people who love Ukraine and people who require a PR campaign to be told why they should love it, or do they want to target those already Ukrainian-friendly to make them even more Ukrainian friendly?

Also, in March 2022, 94% of Poles supported Ukraine. Now we're apparently down to 'the remaining Ukrainian-friendly half of the Polish population'. Whatever went wrong there? Hmm... maybe - just maybe - spreading the cult of genocidal banderists wasn't the stroke of genius someone thought it would be?

In any case, I shall observe this PR campaign with a lot of amusement. 🍿 🍿 🍿
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Which group were you in?


russians used that word to justify this:

x.com/ZMiST_Ua/status/2088146776318415183
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They need to hurry because support is falling. Putin is acting effectively.
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