Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 14

.....nearly 30 percent dissatisfaction....that is nearly every third person!

Frankly I never had expected that much "njet" to Putin and his ukrainian adventure....at least not that openly as with a poll!

I'm very surprised (or very stupid:)

Western lies are more dangerous because they are spread by the presswhores we tend to trust.

Under "communism", even communists didn't trust gov propaganda.

Ukraine is fighting for Donbass because of the region's vast natural resources, which Kiev and its foreign backers want to exploit, former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on Friday.

Wait just a minute...So it's not about "freedom and democracy"? I am so shocked I have to stop posting and go to the gym to recover.

Hey, Polish idiots, did you read this? It's about "vast natural resources" not poems and heroes...Who would have thought THAT...

BTW, I may have mentioned that possibility two years ago...

So what is Biden/Harris strategy for ending the war? They keep asking for more money without ever telling us the game plan, they just want to keep it going on forever.

The havent and strategy at all just like Kameltoes campaign all smoke and mirrors.

My working hypothesis: They're waiting for the russians to come to their senses and stop. It's a stupid plan that won't work because the invasion was not based on any kind of rational foundation...

For a couple of decades it seemed that russia wanted to join the win/win maritime order (the global trade and diplomatic rules based orders that dictators and those who love them hate). russia made fabulous amounts of money in that order but.... being russia it mostly was stolen and most russians' lives were not bettered at all...

But the American political establishment does not understand that different societies have different values and different agendas and the russian agenda is to conquer as much of the world as possible.... they're very clear and open about it but many refuse to listen.

The right is just as bad - they seem to think russia will be happy if it swallows up Ukraine and maybe some other former soviet countries... but giving narcissists what they say they want never makes them happy....

Seriously. Putin wants Ukraine defenseless with an army weaker than post-Treaty of Versailles Germany, giving 1/3 of its most resource-rich territories to the RU, constitutionally unable to ask for help if attacked. How can this demand become even worse? He is demanding full annexation and that everyone who participated in Maidan or is a native Ukrainian speaker go to a gulag?

Needless to say, if UA accepts such an awful deal, everyone that can will flee west, and they will have only old pensioners to take care of. No one will invest in a defenseless Ukraine neighboring Russia. In other words, Putin is already demanding the end of Ukraine.

IMO listening to Ukrainians, even if the situation is like RU propaganda depicts, is more likely that Ukraine will try something crazy like coating mines in radioactive material to dissuade RU from invading further than accept any "suicidal" deal proposed by RU.

What I've heard is... planned nuclear plant meltdowns.... again, russia put Ukraine on death ground (made it clear that if russia won they were dead) to think they don't have some Samson plans is.... very naive.


russia loves central asians and they'll import them (as in Mariupol)....

russia has it's own version of the Great Placement...

These are the assh0les you support. Congratulations.

Witajcie Polki, zapewne wiecie, jaki dziś dzień, bez zbędnych ceregieli chcę Wam pogratulować tego wspaniałego dnia. Od 1 września!! Chwała Rosji

"What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?" (Rom. 9:22)

Welcome to PF, vessel.

And you support bombing childrens' hospitals and you invaded so _everything_ bad that comes from it.... is on you.

Don't like it? Stand up and tell the russian government to stop.... oops.. I'm sorry... you're too much of a coward.

It seems that the Russian mentality are incapable of grasping this.


Most Russians are total cowards, they fear their government and probably with good reason.Time for another Russian revolution!

Oh wow, very nice.

@Bobko

As someone who lives in America and probably profits from that, would you not welcome a Russian democratic revolution and if not, why not?

Yes, Putin is stupid, his generals are stupid, Duma is stupid, and everybody in Russia is stupid.

Maf is smart.

Just to test if you are an imbecile...Was the US invasion of Iraq based on a rational foundation?


Is the UK planning a democratic revolution to stop the migrant invasion?

Let me get straight...A revolution in Russia can be "democratic" but a referendum in Crimea cannot. Did I get it right?

I am not mentally ill, yet.

We just had a Democratic revolution and a new dictator was crowned.

All they need now is enough stupid people to "approve this message".

Russia is already dedicating almost 100% of their military resources to Ukraine. Russia has already mobilized their defense industry to the max they are able to. Russia is already striking all Ukrainian targets without limit.

There are exactly 3 ways Russia could meaningfully escalate, and none of them are great options as they would generally hurt Russia as much or more than they would help Russia.

Nuclear - I hope it isn't necessary to explain why the backlash Russia would face means this isn't something they will do.

Start attacking countries supplying Ukraine - An even worse option than nukes, because this just increases the number of enemies they have to fight significantly. There wouldn't be a quicker path to defeat for Russia than to do this.

Full mobilization of reserve manpower - This would give Russia a big manpower edge, that they would put to good use, but it comes at a big cost to their economy, including their defense industry production. So they'd get more manpower, but they'd produce less war materials. There would also be a significant political cost as many of the Russian elites are against this, and it would hurt the overall public support for the war. This is the one it is most likely Russia might utilize, and they may resort to it anyway as a means to gain manpower if their current recruitment/coercion methods stop producing the necessary manpower to continue the way.

This is already Russia's full effort and if Russia had a button they could press to "Win the war in Ukraine much faster" they would have already pressed it in late 2022.

Yes. Konigsberg region has been demilitarised almost completely.


Which badly affected their weaponry export, now reduced to zero.


No, there is limit to their capacities. They aren`t able to produce hundreds of tanks per month. They produce about 100. The same with advanced missiles. This means serious limits.

Russians will soon have to copy this old propaganda poster calling for bigger work effort:

Work for victory!!!

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One person has a button (by russian design) and he hasn't personally suffered any negative consequences.... why would he stop now? It's not like the russian public has the stones to confront him....

A lot more Ukie attacks on North Nigeria's crappy infrastructure today. Good news and proof that the NNs have no air defences

Those 100 per month are an easy prey for Ukrainian heroes.

The U.S. Army has signed a $1.3 billion contract with Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Javelin Joint Venture to produce FGM-148 Javelin missiles and related equipment. The contract includes the delivery of about 4,000 missiles to Ukraine to supplement previously transferred weapons.

The majority of people in Poland believe that the Polish military should shoot down objects flying over Polish territory during Russian attacks on Ukraine, even if they are not sure what objects they are.
Respondents were asked: "In your opinion, should Poland shoot down objects flying above our territory during Russian attacks on Ukraine, even if it is not certain what objects they are?"
58.5% of the survey participants answered "yes". 22.1% hold the opposite opinion, while 19.4% said they were "not sure".

Of course. It is quite natural. Currently they are using peace time procedures for such UFOs - none can be shot down if it isn`t identified properly coz they fear it might be a civilian plane which got lost.

Poland makes a "NO FLY ZONE" in that air space over Poland and if anything flies into it, Poof, all gone.

Meanwhile.... russia unsated by beheading a 14 year old girl yesterday they hit an orphanage with a ballistic missile today....

human life is of no value to russians...... (even the russians here never deny that..)

x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1830333360276754894

And some wonder why i'm a russophobe....

So true.


Aren't most of us?There is nothing redeeming about Russians and never has been.....TBH, if they were wiped off the face of the earth, the world would be a better place.

American missiles fell on civilian buildings in many countries. Israeli missiles are falling on such buildings as we speak. Are you also an Americanophobe and an Israeliphobe?


What the f*ck? Is there some sort of Say the Most Idiotic Thing Competition going on here?

@GefreiterKania You really are a stupid pr1ck aren't you?How can you compare war with justification to Russia's totally illogical invasion of Ukraine?


If there was, you would have won it already!!! What an ignoramus you are!!!!!

I'd rather be a stupid pr*ck than a genocidal sick f*ck, dreaming of wiping a nation off the face of the earth.