Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7

Now you're being dumb on purpose. NATO reached Russia's doorstep in 1999/2004. 20 years passed and somehow the Alliance did not invade Russia. So cut the bullshit about pre-emptive wars, it's embarassing.

"I want to invade you" is a very different statement than "I will not let you get away with invading others". The latter is what deterrence means. You also get a war when one side becomes overconfident, aggressive and tries to impose its will to the extent that is unacceptable for the weaker side - the demands are simply beyond any acceptable compromise. Russia has a long tradition of such wars - waged against Finland or Ukraine. Which could have been avoided if Russia acknowledged the sovereignty of other countries and their security concerns.

Your Sevastopol base is useless now - the Black Sea "fleet" won't be allowed out into the Med, your best warship is on the ocean floor and soon the bridge will be blown up, leaving a few thousand mutinous drunk sailors waiting for their sprats.

...Ukraine was next. No, I will not try to explain the difference between Ukraine and Estonia or Latvia to Polish blockheads.

It's up to Russia to decide where to draw the red line and when to enforce it. The invasion had nothing to do with Putin ever trying to become the Emperor of Europe. Morons...


It would be very useful to the US aka NATO. How sweet would that be to have all the artillery and nukes...so close...
But since the US happily accepted Soviet rockets in Cuba, you may have a point...whatever it is...

1) US presence in Europe was getting rapidly reduced as Washington's attention switched towards SE Asia.
2) Ukraine accession to NATO was being blocked by alliance of Germany and France, aided by some smaller states like Hungary.
3) The alliance itself was losing legitimacy without a definite external threat, most countries didn't even pay 2% gdp for defense.
4) Half of Europe was happy to fill Russia's war coffers by buying its resources and did not perceive Moscow as an enemy(even after 2014).

And then enters Putin, all in white.

There can already be nukes in Helsinki - another of the unintended side effects of this war.

But unlike Udmurtia, we are not obsessed with some rusty 80 year old Nukes.

That only shows how stupid Poles are. Anyone with brains would pray for those nukes to be in perfect shape so they will not self-launch and detonate.

As Medvedev said, the West should pray for Russia not to lose this war.

Some people just can't hold their liquor. Many such cases, even among Russians.

russia has already lost this war in practical terms.... it's floundering lashing out at civilians and not achieving anything....

russians on the ground have no idea what they're fighting for (and the russians that show up here can't articulate any reasons that make any sense)

Ukrainians know what they're fighting for.

Only a dumb Polak would assume that Putin doesn't know what Medvedev is going to say.

And this, my friends, is how a retarded child understands modern politics.

Since you disagree with my Post #69, the conclusion is that Putin finds out what Medvedev said from RT.

You just made my point again. This time that the Poles are stupid and beyond redemption.

Why on earth would putain listen to RT?

As Galeev pointed out months ago... Medvedev says these stupid things so that he won't be killed..... He's disqualifying himself as a 'reasonable' person the west might try to turn to to oust putain (Lavrov also says retarded crazy things in public for the same reason)

the russian system breeds paranoia at the top so if the world doesn't like the leader... he's going to be trying to get rid of anyone the world might turn to instead.

Medvedev is apparently a stupid guy and a drunk so it's easy for him to publicly disqualify himself to save his skin.

Apologies for my bad English...

Since you disagree with my Post #69, the conclusion is that Putin finds out what Medvedev says from RT.

You've got to be completely blind not to see constant threats of nuclear attack coming from the members of Russian administration,including members of Duma, Medvedev, Putin himself. And a lot more coming from state-sponsored media and regiem's propagandists.

On the other hand the West never does nuclear threats - the worst they do is declare that if attacked, they will respond in kind.

No, my Polish genius. Just the opposite.
It's the US that has as its policy to strike first when the US interests - not just the territory of the United States - are threatened - whatever that means.

Russia's official policy is to respond with nukes when attacked with nukes or when such an attack is inevitable. Simply put: Russia will not strike first.

But, since you are Polish, confusing these two is excusable. "America" - the only country that used nukes on civilians (200,000 to be exact) - is always good. Russia - always bad. Very baaad... Russia is so evil that it killed 10,000 civilians in Ukraine since Feb 2022. So awful...

Back to Putin and Medvedev...

Do you think that Putin does not know what Medvedev will say when one of the sentences includes the word "nuclear"?

WTF are you keep blabbering about?


It's a matter of belief.

Ukraine does not believe Russian threat of nukes so they keep fighting and regaining their territories.

NATO believes it can stop Russia from using nukes by a simple arm-twisting threat.

Now if Russia believes the NATO threat, it will not use nuclear weapons. If Russia believes this is just a bluff, nukes are still on the table.

We'll see how it goes.

I asked:

Do you think that Putin does not know what Medvedev will say when one of the sentences includes the word "nuclear"?

I am asking again because your response to my original post on this subject was incomprehensible and evasive crap:

Some people just can't hold their liquor. Many such cases, even among Russians.

Meaning: Medvedev is an alcoholic and doesn't know what he is talking about. Did I get it right?

This is what Medvedev said:

Pray for Russian Success or Risk Nuclear War, Says Medvedev

He said that Moscow's enemies should pray for Russia's success in the region-referring to Kyiv's counter-offensive against Russian forces in the southeastern parts of Ukraine-otherwise Moscow would simply have "no other option." According to Russia's nuclear doctrine, nuclear weapons can be used in retaliation when the existence of the Russian state is threatened.

So clear even Poles will understand.

europeanconservative.com/articles/news/pray-for-russian-success-or-risk-nuclear-war-says-medvedev/

So evil Putin wants Ukraine...

Why are the US taxpayers spending billions there? Why do we even give a sh*it?

Suppose evil Putin succeeds and Russia takes the whole damn place.

Why should the US give a damn? We were OK with the USSR having Ukraine as well as the entire Eastern Europe and nobody was talking about WW3.

Now for some strange reason, an ex-Soviet republic is a big deal...

It doesn't get any stranger...Russian flags in Niger...No, this video is not an RT production.

youtu.be/TLhL1-vwQ_w

...and the message to the US and France: Get out now or we will kill you!

No more stealing our minerals and our uranium! GFY!

The US was not "ok" with the USSR "having" the whole of Eastern Europe. US leaders and voters knew it was an anomaly, a poor outcome of WW2 and that the people who lived there were trapped in a life of tyranny, poverty and bad food.

Your language shows the Udmurtian approach is one of colonialism, with no thought at all about the people who live there.

Still I see Putler is popular in Africa, though strangely none of those migrants see fit to find their way to Udmurtia for work and a better life

A map of African countries which have signed a military agreement with Russia.

Medvedev is getting fat with age and his deepening alcoholism, every day looking more and more like a common aparatchik he is.


abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/african-leaders-arrive-russia-summit-kremlin-seeks-allies-101668928

Only 17 African heads of states, compared to 43 last time, are attending the African Russian conference. Its good to see this rejection of Russia's geopolitical anti-Western stance

Compare this to the US African conference where over 40 African leaders attended. I think the Ruskies cancelling the grain deal had an influence on this because its clear Putin has no real concern or interest in Africa

npr.org/2022/12/13/1142418953/president-biden-to-host-more-than-40-african-leaders-at-u-s-africa-summit

I would, a one that belongs to you. You wanted to con me by selling something that doesn't belong to you.
Not nice...

The same map of African countries that will get into canoe's and start rowing to the shores of the United States to attack along with Russians who will supply them with new butter knives, and spears sharpened and prepared for deadly combat. They are hopeful that with good ocean currents they will arrive in the US before winter strikes as the beachwear millitary kit is not winterized.

At the same time, people in the United States wait for more stupid $hit to be said on PF by Serbian retards and Americans who should have their citizenship revoked.

interesting no?

dw.com/pl/bucza-rok-po-wyzwoleniu-i-%C5%BCmudne-dochodzenia/a-65196042

Russian flags being waved at anti-France protests across West Africa raise concerns
Good. I guess plundering Africa never did. FU, Western thieves and your "armed forces" in every country. I hope Niger will send you home in body bags.

In the meantime...The US buys 50% of its uranium from Russia. The money Russia gets buys things that go boom and kill little girls. That makes the US a war criminal by proxy.

BTW, Poland trades with Russia, too. Big time...That High Moral Ground has exceptions, it seems...

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NATO AGGRESSION AGAINST RUSSIA BECOMES TOTAL WAR

southfront.org/nato-aggression-against-russia-becomes-total-war/

What about r*SSian aggression against Ukraine?


A dodgy source. Then again you've posted Hitler quotes here.