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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5


PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
3 Feb 2023 #211
@amiga500
What is the distance between Kherson and Autonomous Republic of Crimea? The distance between Kherson and Autonomous Republic of Crimea is 126 km.

Latest report on arrival is a few weeks. Excluding any new gains Crimea is going to get targeted as much as possible. This is Putins only claim to fame in Russia. Take that away from him and he has real problems inside his inner circle.
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #212
...then why are you doing Putin's job? Discrediting the Ukrainians as Nazis...

*not all ukranians* But a sizeable amount to be a problem to Poland and germany after the war. (about a quarter of azov battalion subscribe to neo-nazi ideology) also that 2 percent voted for extreme far right that ukri psyops keep going on about, it's about 15-20 percent in lviv and other parts of Galicia.
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #213
it's about 15-20 percent in lviv and other parts of Galicia.

That's a rather detailed info, so where are you taking this data from? Or are you just guessing?

And even if that's true it's no proof that this 15-20% "control the street" in Lviv and other parts of Galicia.
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #214
it's about 15-20 percent in lviv

twitter.com/AliceZhuravel/status/1619403971361398784
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #215
freedomhouse.org/report/analytical-brief/2018/far-right-extremism-threat-ukrainian-democracy

Extremist groups perpetrate ideologically motivated violence to suppress and eliminate any force that they believe does not have the right to public representation in society. Their actions are aimed at "cleaning" the public space of everything that they regard as harmful to the nation

In addition to memorials to the victims of the Holocaust, which have been targeted in the past as well, these include objects associated with recent political debates or conflicts such as the Polish military cemeteries in Volhynia, memorials of Hungarian national and cultural heritage in Transcarpathia

Nowadays, such attacks occur much more often[3] than five or ten years ago, as shown in the data on antisemitic vandalism attacks gathered by the Association of Jewish Organizations and Communities of Ukraine

Finally, the place of violence in Ukrainian society has changed, and right-wing radicals have played an important part in this transformation. The idea of what is permissible and acceptable has completely transformed.

Point proven that they control the street Paulina!
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #216
You were still salivating for the utter capitulation of Ukraine in April 22.

No, I wasn't salivating. I was saying that Z-P=0 is not worth dying for.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #217
The stupidest part of this war is that...

1. It was preventable.
2. The US supports an ex-Soviet republic that in the past was Hitler's dear ally in a conflict that has nothing to do with the US. It does not get any more stupid.

...but, for a quick buck, the US would bomb the Vatican or itself. See 9/11.
Joker 4 | 2,560
3 Feb 2023 #218
The stupidest part of this war is that..

Trump stated he could have brokered an end to this war months ago. Im sure he could do it as well. Biden is a puppet and is too afraid to even shoot down a Chinese spy balloon floating over our country.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #219
Trump stated he could have brokered an end to this war months ago

That's what I would do and Ukraine would now be happily waiting for the spring. All they had to do is grant autonomy to D and L, and be neutral.

Today, Ukraine does not exist and half of its people are gone. It's just proving ground for the US weapon manufacturers.
Joker 4 | 2,560
3 Feb 2023 #220
All they had to do is grant autonomy to D and L, and be neutral.

It going to eventually happen anyhow. Trump could have ended it all and saved so many lives.

It's just proving ground for the US weapon manufacturers.

Its a cash cow for the industrial military complex. Dumb ass Biden is giving away our stockpiles and leaving us unprotected. He is a traitor.
Bobko 14 | 914
3 Feb 2023 #221
Latest report on arrival is a few weeks

The latest report from Cosmopolitan, or was it Home & Garden? Even Ukraine is saying, with some considerable dismay, that the earliest the GLSDB will arrive is October.

pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2023/02/3/7387749/

Also, your wunder weapon doesn't reach Crimea even right now. In 9 months time, when the front is further, it will reach even less deep into occupied territory. You should read the Ukrainian comments under articles about this. I'm afraid the Ukrainians are beginning to suspect that the US is giving them just enough weapons to hold on, but not enough to win.

Just one big advertising opportunity for the US mil complex, carried out to the last Ukrainian soldier.



OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #222
Trump could have ended it all and saved so many lives.

I would love to witness a conversation between a ten-year-old Ukraianian girl who lost her mom and dad, clutching her little bear and asking one of PF Russia haters and Z lovers why am I an orphan now. Yeah, a-holes, talk to her, not me, and explain to her why her cousins in Crimea are all warm and happy. And not orphans.

I know...In your sick dreams, her cousins would be orphans, too.

Just one big advertising opportunity for the US mil complex, carried out to the last Ukrainian soldier.

"Tested and proven in Ukraine!" "Reliability report available on request".
Tacitus 2 | 1,705
3 Feb 2023 #223
why am I an orphan now

I would tell her that her parents gave her life in order to give her an opportunity for a better future. One in which she does not have to live in a decaying and corrupt autocracy lee by the man who is responsible for her parents death.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #224
more big cats on the move...

Federal government approves export of Leopard 1 tanks

Leopard 1 tanks from German stocks are delivered to Ukraine. The federal government confirmed this. According to SPIEGEL information, there are 29 largely refurbished models of the Leopard 2 predecessor.

spiegel.de/politik/bundesregierung-erteilt-genehmigung-zur-ausfuhr-von-leopard-1-panzern-in-die-ukraine-a-a7b78a50-c6b2-4334-8b2d-52e19b9f27f9

Norway buys 54 Leopard 2 tanks from Germany

The Norwegian government stocks up on German tanks to replace older models. Some of the previously used leopards will soon go to the Ukraine.

spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/norwegen-kauft-54-leopard-2-panzer-aus-deutschland-a-4d02783d-d7b3-43c4-a338-7505471005ff

I guess there are alot Leopard 1's still standing around in lotsa armies.....
pawian 202 | 21,091
3 Feb 2023 #225
Trump could have

Bs. Trump would have remained passive doing nothing. Ukraine was really lucky Biden and Demos came to power.

why am I an orphan now.

Why? Ask Russians why they killed the parents. But be careful not to get to them too close coz they might rape you.
Bobko 14 | 914
3 Feb 2023 #226
You should read the Ukrainian comments

I went to Censor.net.ua right now, and opened a random article about F16s (something about Biden ruling out sending them). Just so you understand - Censor.Net is a famous den of Ukrainian nationalists that hate everything Russian a little bit more than PAK when he has had a drink before noon.

The first comment is the top comment under that article. I'll translate it for you:

"and the tanks will arrive in a year. Indeed, why rush? Not everything has been destroyed in Ukraine, yet. Some kind of one-sided help, a lot of metal, thanks very much of course. But in fact, it turns out that everything is given to continue the war with huge loss of life, but by no means what would be enough to win."

The patients are beginning to suspect something.



OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #227
more big cats on the move...

That sentence tells me that you, Germans, either didn't learn sh*it or are just obedient a-holes.

the war with huge loss of life, but by no means enough to win.

They know it. It's just to be able to say later that we helped. We are the good guys.
No, you are just obedient morons and US bit*ches.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #228
And not orphans.

If the Soviets had caved in immediately as the Germans crossed the border during Barbarossa millions of people would have survived...no Stalingrad....right?

either didn't learn sh*it

Oh we have learned....we want to be on the side of the victors for once! You know....parades and all that! :)
pawian 202 | 21,091
3 Feb 2023 #229
Russia is the most sanctioned country in history.

Correct! And it shall stay this way until Russians get reasonable.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #230
.we want to be on the side of the victors for once! You know..

At what cost?
Everything has its limits. Japs blinked after the second one. How many Ukrainians must die for Germany to cancel the parade and tell DC to fu*ck off and do it alone?

As of now, there are 20,000,000 of them. Name the number of dead Ukrainians past which that parade is not worth it. No essays, please. Just a number.
pawian 202 | 21,091
3 Feb 2023 #231
How many Ukrainians

Let`s reverse this question - how many Russians must die for Putin to realise the war is lost and Russia as a country will collapse if he still wages it ?

Name the number of dead

Name the number of dead Russians past which the war is not worth it.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #232
At what cost?

What cost? You have to know that our arms industry is p*issing itself with glee....
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #233
Fu*ck them. I am talking to you and other reasonable Germans who are not cashing in from this sordid spectacle.

how many Russians must die for Putin to realise the war is lost

This question is too stupid and it would take me too long to explain why.
Bobko 14 | 914
3 Feb 2023 #234
Germans, either didn't learn sh*it or are just obedient a-holes

Ahh, and then there smart Germans once. Like Bismarck!

Two quotes from Bismarck:

"Do not expect that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians have always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on an agreement signed by you, that you are supposed to justify. It is not worth the paper it is written on. Therefore, with the Russians play fair, or do not play at all."

"The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia."

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #235
I am talking to you and other reasonable Germans

Well.....in a certain way Putin and with him his Russians are now the most hated people in Europe.....relieving Germans of their Adolf-shaped shadow.....

German panzers with their crosses visible roaming once again over eastern territory is psychologically a game changer....underestimated by many!

Would you count that as a cost or a reward?
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #236
freedomhouse.org/report/analytical-brief/2018/far-right-extremism-threat-ukrainian-democracy

Compare and contrast.... what a difference a few years can make...

en.zona.media/article/2022/03/29/likhachev
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #237
Would you count that as a cost or a reward?

I will answer when you tell me what number of dead Ukrainins would make you or a typical "work-diner" German revolt and say no more Leopards.

Let's start with 20,000,000 dead. Too high? How about 10,000,000?
pawian 202 | 21,091
3 Feb 2023 #238
Let's start with 20,000,000 dead. Too high?

Provided with the statistics of the war, we know that Russian losses are twice or even thrice bigger than Ukrainian. So, how about 40 million dead Russians? Too high? How about 30, then.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #239
German revolt

I guess what Scholz did (forcing the US to send Abrams too against their will) was as much "german revolt" as you will get to see in this war, no matter the number of killed....

Some things ring true, however...

We could need someone like him today....
pawian 202 | 21,091
3 Feb 2023 #240
Russians are now the most hated people in Europe.....relieving Germans of their Adolf-shaped shadow.....

Exactly. You, Germans, could become heroes of the new era for the coming decades if you didn`t delay so much with weapons supplies. Instead, you will only lose the odium of the most brutal Europeans.

Now, Russians are the cursed Nazis of Europe.


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