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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5


OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #181
anyone with half a brain knows that there will be a negotiated solution to the conflict,

Anyone with half a brain knew that in April 2022. It's almost a year later, a quarter million dead or wounded, a country destroyed, the world teetering, and my plans to visit Russia on hold for what seems like forever.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
3 Feb 2023 #182
Quoting (paraphrasing):

Russia is the most sanctioned country in history. According to the IMF, Russia's GDP will grow at a higher rate than Germany's.

hahahahahahahaha...hahahahahahaha...

Yes, you read it right. The most sanctioned country ever will outgdp the stupid Germans who just don't have enough balls to give the US MIC the middle finger and stick to their original Germany-first MO.
Tacitus 2 | 1,705
3 Feb 2023 #183
And if you had read more than the headline, you would learn that things are looking very bleak for Russia. Russia is a developing economy and thus has naturally a higher growth than G 7 members. Nvm that this comes after a significant contraction from last year. But future growth heavily depends on unsustainable domestic and the military spending. Russia is currently keeping its economy afloat at the price of future growth.

Russia is spending 50% of its budget on the war. That leaves its already crumbling infrastructure ans education and science system in even more dire straits. Eventually the Russians will have to oay the bill for this.
johnny reb 40 | 7,725
3 Feb 2023 #184
A new ground-launched, bomb-tipped rocket will be part of the latest package of US arms for Ukraine that will be announced today by the White House and Pentagon.

Funding for the precision-guided long-range hybrid weapon would come from $1.75 billion in the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.
These rockets are GPS guided off military satellites.
Now Ukraine will be able to put one down Putin's chimney in Moscow to give him a taste of what he has been doing to civilians in Ukraine.
cms neuf - | 2,090
3 Feb 2023 #185
Russia is destroyed - and has basically committed sacrificed the future of its oil industry for this.

The world is not teetering - oil and gas are the same price, we can see that all dictators are weaker and less sure of themselves and inflation is coming down.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #186
Now Ukraine will be able to put one down Putin's chimney in Moscow

.....Putin would that probably declare it a direct attack by NATO! Ukraine should actually avoid russian territory....at least with NATO equipment...
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
3 Feb 2023 #187
@johnny reb
Exactly JR, as I mentioned the other day, these put Crimea well within reach of Ukraine now. From Kherson almost all of Crimea is a target. And when all those oligarchs see their properties being destroyed, the airport destroyed, and all ammo dumps destroyed, they are going to start rethinking their support for little Vlad. The best part about those bombs? They can be delivered in days, not weeks or months, but days. Immediate impact.

Little Vlad recruited more than 300,000 in the last mobilization. Turns out he recruited close to a half million and now they will be sent to the front lines in the next few weeks. Nothing like arriving in Ukraine just as all the new smart bombs arrive. Welcome to Ukraine, we have prepared a permanent resting place for you. Happy gulag biatches!
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #188
But, it cuts both ways. Torq has a thread with some examples on Western propaganda.

Sorry, AntV, but Western propaganda is nowhere near the level of RuSSian propaganda which is simply evil and genocidal.

but true - we are once again threatened with German Leopard tanks, with crosses on their hull.

It's not true, I haven't noticed any Polish markings on Krabs that were sent to Ukraine, so I'm guessing German markings will be painted over too.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #189
we are once again threatened with German Leopard tanks

TIGERS!
johnny reb 40 | 7,725
3 Feb 2023 #190
@PolAm

they will be sent to the front lines in the next few weeks. Nothing like arriving in Ukraine just as the new smart bombs arrive.

Actually those GPS guided rockets won't be arriving for another 9 months.

The world is not teetering - oil and gas are the same price,

Oh yes it is and oil and gas prices are on the rise again.

and inflation is coming down.

From what to what ?
Less than a half percent from a 26 year high in Poland.

Ukraine and Nato at war with Russia
Israel at war with Iran
India at war with China
U.S. going to war with China WW3
Burma in a civil war
Somalia at war against al-Shabab militants.
Mexico in a war with the drug cartel
Debt limit in America over 30 Trillion

And you claim the world is not teetering ?
You better get a good grip and hang on is all I have to say.
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #191
TIGERS!

Good catch! lol I wonder if it's an honest mistake on the part of Putin, because he's so ignorant about WWII, or he "overlooked" the real name of the tanks from WWII times on purpose to strenghten the propaganda message. After all, RuSSians of all people should know what tanks attacked their country... 🤔

RuSSian propaganda just isn't good at being factual lol:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I

Once China attacks the U.S., and they will

I'll comment on that in Random.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #192
or he "overlooked" the real name of the tanks from WWII times on purpose

...na ja.....since he wants to re-fight WWII against the big bad Nazis, going so far as declaring Ukrainians Nazis, I guess he did it on purpose.

For him it's really WWII 2....for him, and it seems alot of Russians too, the most glorious time of their country, they want to repeat that....the yearly parades don't do it anymore....again to be on top of the world, the darling of the media, the support and applause from everybody....Putin wants to bring that time back...it's a psychological thing.

Of course, it will never work!
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #193
so I'm guessing German markings will be painted over too.

The Ukrainian unofficial insignia on their armour is a white cross, also there have been sightings where they add an up line to one end, i.e. a quarter of a swastika.

Anyone with half a brain knew that in April 2022.

Lies. You were still salivating for the utter capitulation of Ukraine in April 22.

these put Crimea well within reach of Ukraine now. From Kherson almost all of Crimea

where did you get this from? the range is only 150km with only the far northen part of crimea in play.
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #194
going so far as declaring Ukrainians Nazis

As good a time as any to post this, old but good on 'nazis' in Ukraine....

twitter.com/mariamposts/status/1511995713135443969
Kashub1410 5 | 588
3 Feb 2023 #195
@amiga500
In Novichoks defence, one half of the brain isn't always fully functional. So I guess he is still right with that statement?
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #196
As good a time as any to post this, old but good on 'nazis' in Ukraine....

twitter.com/mariamposts/status/1511995713135443969

Thanks for the link, this is important info:

'The most known Ukrainian far-right parties of "National Corps", "Freedom" and "Right Sector" together received ~2% of the vote in the 2019 Parliamentary Elections.'
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #197
The Ukrainian unofficial insignia on their armour is a white cross

So? German cross is black with a narrow white outline, so they would have to paint over it anyway.
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #198
far-right parties of "National Corps", "Freedom" and "Right Sector" together received ~2% of the vote

Another voice....

twitter.com/AliceZhuravel/status/1589190619024748544

this is the site she mentions

twitter.com/tozhsamist
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #199
Another voice....

Wow you really are a sucker for ukranian psyops!

"Because Ukraine is a diverse and liberal country as far as any progressive country." LOLZO, yeah maybe in her elite uni campus.

2% of the vote in the 2019 Parliamentary Elections.'

Doesn't matter they control the streets, also did you miss that Banderist in parliament, brandishing a weapon, and threatening violence on Zelensky and a coup if he did not tow the ultra nationalist line in 2019? After that Zenlensky folded and totally repudiated on what he was elected on.
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #200
@amiga500, 2% controls the streets? Really? And what proof do you have for that claim?

did you miss that Banderist in parliament, brandishing a weapon, and threatening violence on Zelensky

I did. Link?
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #201
@amiga500, 2% controls the streets? Really? And what proof do you have for that claim?

the people with knives and bats and chains and guns who are not afraid to use violence control the streets.And it's not the pro EU liberals and LGBT people ie civic society. Is that so hard to understand?

I did. Link?

It was in 2019 early 2020. Unf I don't save every link on the messy internal politics of ukraine.
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #202
@amiga500, I asked you to prove it.
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #203
I don't have to prove anything to you, you sound like bloody pawian. take my word on it, or don't.
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #204
Another day.... another example of russian depravity (and war crimes)

no comment because..... you'll see

twitter.com/ulllsssssa/status/1621247362071920643
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #205
@amiga500, well, of course I'm not going to take your word for it lol Why would I do that? Have you ever even been to Ukraine? Why would I treat you as some kind of authority on Ukrainian matters? So either prove it or get lost (sorry).

I don't have to prove anything to you

You do, if you want people to believe you *shrugs* It's your claim, so it's your "job" to prove it.

I don't save every link on the messy internal politics of ukraine.

Pity, because I tried to google it and I didn't find anything.
amiga500 3 | 1,260
3 Feb 2023 #206
Why would I do that?

Because I'm more intelligent than you, ask yourself why was the maidan revolution successfull, and the opposite side was successfull in the donbas, answer control of the street.

Have you ever even been to Ukraine?

I've been everywhere man youtube.com/watch?v=sE-AYe1ORoQ
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #207
Because I'm more intelligent than you

LOL 🤦😂

answer control of the street.

That's cute and all, but you haven't provided any proof so far that the streets in Ukraine are controlled by that far-right 2% of the Ukrainian society.

I've been everywhere man

Sure :)))
Paulina 13 | 3,406
3 Feb 2023 #208
another example of russian depravity (and war crimes)

I was afraid that this is going to be happening :(((((
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
3 Feb 2023 #209
Because I'm more intelligent than you,

...then why are you doing Putin's job? Discrediting the Ukrainians as Nazis....
mafketis 35 | 11,662
3 Feb 2023 #210
why are you doing Putin's job?

RT captured a lot of the western right by conning them into this idea that putain is a defender of conservative christian values (hard to imagine something farther from the truth, but....)


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