Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

I have never encountered a single person (online or in real life) who would support torturing children. That's why I was shocked with your statement that Russians were expressing "wild joy" online because of killing of Ukrainian children. It just sounds too unreal.

@mafketis

Only in Russia, do we have cruise missiles designed to home in on pregnant women! But the warhead is too small it seems, or Ukrainian pregnant women are just very heavily armored. One Ukrainian pregnant woman was hit by missiles 3 different times, and still escaped unharmed. Work on the missile will continue...

Also, it seems the anal rape of Ukrainian toddlers by Russian soldiers using spoons and candles, has come to an abrupt end after the firing of that rather imaginative Ukrainian human rights ombudsman.

I'll be honest though, it's my first time hearing about "torture chambers" for children. Makes me proud to be a Russian. Even Pol Pot couldn't think of such a thing - but WE DID!

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@Novichok
Allow me to explain why your reasoning is extremely flawed.

First, Biden got Afghanistan handed to him by Trump, and that was a disaster. It doesn't matter who is at fault, Biden gets the blame. Because of this Biden will never pull out and risk another disaster. This war is his only win in office and he will funnel money one way or another to keep this win.

Second, assuming a DeSantis win, when he enters office, there is no way he pulls out and risks an Afghanistan mess on his watch. He will be more aggressive if anything and will look to end the war quickly and decisively.

Third, if Biden were to pull off a miracle and win, it would be a stamp of approval and for the next two years there is nothing that could touch him.

That said, this war will be over in a year or so. Once Russia has been bled out enough, the heavy guns will go in and wipe out the men on the ground. The Russians will lose another 300 to 400 thousand men. Putin will be dead or out of office. Look for the Wagner group to start the coup or for the military Putin has embarrassed. This war is over and Russia is a dead man walking. This dear Novi is rational thinking looking at facts, not the hopes and prayers of Russians or Ukrainians.

How about now?:

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-aid-ukraine-russia-invades-part-87688/6/#msg1895435


Maybe not torturing per se, but drowning and burning alive - yes:

"RT Host Suspended for Calls to 'Drown, Burn' Ukrainian Children":

themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/24/rt-host-suspended-for-calls-to-drown-burn-ukrainian-children-a79172

'Krasovsky, a pro-war presenter under EU sanctions, said Ukrainian children should be "thrown straight into a river with a strong current" or "burned in a hut" for calling Russians occupiers.'

He was suspended (I would fire this twisted monster ASAP), but it shows what kind of psychopaths work for RuSSian propaganda machine.

russians here fully support the government doing it.... what's the difference?


I saw translations of russian telegram reactions to the death of Liza Dmytriyeva and her daughter in July.... wild, animal joy doesn't begin to describe it...

But that's about war crimes by Russian soldiers which were most likely not a part of official government policy or ordered military action. When those "torture chambers for children" were mentioned on Twitter in relation to peace talks with Russia, it sounded as if they were set up regularly in many places (suggesting that it was organised, like gas chambers in concentration camps).


Well, he was suspended, so it looks like it's not acceptable even on Russian TV.


That's my point - is it "Russian government doing this" (as the guy on Twitter would seem to suggest) or are those just war crimes commited by sickf*cks in uniforms?

Simple. Putin is a CIA agent. He was sent to Russia to start this war and help US MIC make tons of money. He already has his escape plan and a place in Florida where to live off his golden years - plus movie rights.

Oops, I confused P and Z. Sorry...

Sent to start - correct. But help make money is wrong! His primary goal is to destroy Russia as we know it.

Memo to Poles: Before Russia is destroyed, Poland will be.
As I said, don't be the last useful idiots leaving the stage.

In any normal country he would get fired, imho, and I think it's telling that he thought it's OK to utter it live on TV at all. The guy he was talking to maybe got a bit uncomfortable, but he didn't criticise him. Also, check out the way this Krasovsky is talking about Ukrainians in the same fragment and what he said at the end:

youtu.be/8lkshypC2Rk

He must've been behaving like that on regular basis on this RuSSian version of RT. He had to make a remark about drowning and burning RuSSian speaking children with RuSSian surnames (living in Ukraine) to get suspended.

Don`t be silly. Poland is protected by heavenly forces, coz Jesus is the King of Poland.

If Jesus sits on the Polish throne, then Lucifer reigns in the Kremlin. They fight daily over the souls of Ukrainians, and this fight will last till Judgement Day.

Exactly!

But the good always defeats the evil. Ask PolamKrakow.

That's true. There are so many Poles everywhere in the world that even if the Eagle's Nest is ever destroyed (which Jesus won't allow to happen, as you rightly noticed), there will always remain enough of us for a great Polish Aliyah and starting over again. We are like Jews - can't be destroyed he he :)

@GefreiterKania

Every child knows that Russia is closest to God. Upon accession our leaders are anointed with holy chrism, before being elected basileus and autocrator of all Russia. By marriage to the niece of the last basileus in Constantinople, we continue the 1,700 year tradition of Christian emperors.

Vladimir Putin is God's emissary on Earth. He is accountable to us Russians for our salvation in the eyes of God, as is the role of any good Christian emperor.

My bet is that Putin went to church more times in the last 12 months than either the retard, B, or his useful idiot, Z.

Delusions of grandeur are only charming, heart-warming and acceptable if they are harboured by Poles. In any other nation they are just ridiculous, so please stop.


Not nearly as many times as Duda or Kaczynski though.

@GefreiterKania, any thoughts on the video of that psycho Krasovsky from RT? He wasn't just a presenter, btw, he was also a director of Russian-language broadcasting on RT. At the end of that video the director of RuSSian branch of RT is basically calling for a genocide of Ukrainian people. And this f*cking psycho gets only suspended (and not even for that, but for another remark).

And this is not incidental - f*cked up, evil comments and calls for genocide were happening on other state RuSSian TV channels and shows too.

Those TV presenters don't exist in some kind of vacuum - they come from RuSSian society and people are watching them - maybe not Velund lol, but most probably millions of RuSSians.

An unstable personality... there's other video of him being deranged as well.... in one he's spitting with rage while fantasizing about burning the Ukrainian conversation, when russia started it's first big attacks targetting civilian infrastructure he was dancing with delight....

so much in russia is so vile.....

@Bobko
Go back to Russia COWARD Putin is a coward just like you. Body doubles and bunkers. Russians, still number one in dying!

Yes. I think his family must have changed their name at some point in the past. No way this dude has Polish roots.


They're just trying to frighten people (and not being very successful at it). If Austro-Hungarian Empire had TV, they would have broadcast all their "Jeder Schuß ein Russ! Jeder Stoß ein Franzos! Jeder Tritt ein Britt" propaganda all the time as well. I shiver to think what they would have said about Poles on Adolf's TV etc.

@Bobko
With regard to #171

Does every Russian really believe that?
I would recommend reading up on Salomon and what idolizing a head of state can do

It's the quality, not quantity, that counts.

Putin prays for Russia's survival. Those two do for more of my American tax dollars and the military to protect Poland while Poland is playing with fire with its bravery from behind.

But.....funny and smart....you have to admit! :)

You know damn well that I have always been a Kaiser und König loyalist. An orphan without a country... *sniff... sniff*

Oh, well... at least we have free Poland today. That has to count for something, right?

*off to polish his gefreiter buttons and clean the portrait of Kaiser Franz*

My impression is that roots often don't matter much in RuSSia. You may be Karelian and defend imperialist RuSSia, Velund and Bobko have Ukrainian roots, as far as I understand, and they not only support this invasion, but they're prejudiced against Ukrainians, their language and culture. RuSSians who live in RuSSia, but have family in Ukraine prefer to believe RuSSian propaganda rather than their own family who are telling them about what's happening to them and in Ukraine in general.


How do you know? I don't think that Krasovsky guy was trying to frighten anyone. He was just being his psycho self. And whatever their intentions are - do you really think bombarding people with such constant rhetoric has no effect on people's minds?


Nazi propaganda is pretty well documented. And we know now that they weren't "joking" or just trying to "frighten people". And even Nazi propaganda wasn't calling openly for genocide. They claimed they want to "resettle" Jews:

encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public

So imagine what must be going on in that Krasovsky's head.

Hmm...

I cannot answer your post above, Paulina, because the reply would have to entail admitting that you are right and, even worse, that I might have been wrong.

Can't have that. Sorry.

I was trolling. Others here know, I hope, that I'm an atheist agent of chaos. I believe nothing) I continue proud Russian tradition of nihilism.

But yes people in Russia are crazy. We have many monarchists. Putin does not fit the mold very well though.

"Unbelievable, but true - we are once again threatened with German Leopard tanks, with crosses on their hull. And once again seeking to battle Russia in Ukraine with the help of Hitler's followers, the Banderites," Putin said.

And you, PF Russia-hating idiots, think that Russia will just let this one slide and lose...If so, you don't know Russia at your own peril.

Stupid Germans...You forgot Stalingrad it seems. Stupid Russians...you should have taken East Germany as reparations and kept it till the end of time - nukes and all.

Excuse me?, anyone with half a brain knows that there will be a negotiated solution to the conflict, my prediction is end of the year that negotiations will start. and no ukraine won't invade crimea cuz the yanks won't let them. ure right the china threat will start to shift minds, already retired general said war with china inevitable by 2025


We will send 1000 tons of Piergoi and our finest kięłbasy for U.S sailors before their epic battle in the Taiwanese strait.