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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5


gumishu 13 | 6,112
16 Mar 2023 #1,741
Polish youth is increasingly against Euro-Atlanticism

you don't know what you are talking about - for every young Polish person who is against NATO (or more probably the EU) there is a 100 of those who are supportive of Polish membership in both
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
16 Mar 2023 #1,742
Pure projection, it's highly unlikely that American people would support a full scale war against it,

Pure Polish bs. The US swamp doesn't give a fu*ck about what the "American people" support. Save such comments for your next Civics 101 class.

USA tolerated commie Cuba and Venezuela for decades.

Hey, genius, I am talking about Chinese or Russian MILITARY bases in Canada or Mexico.

The US not only "tolerates" commies but actually loves them. That's why the US swamp moved almost all American manufacturing to commie China.

Clearly, your ability to understand simple English is limited so I will try again:

The US would not ever tolerate a military alliance between Canada and China or Russia. Period.

Is there anything in this sentence that is unclear? Good.

Now back to Russia...

Russia said it would not tolerate a military alliance between Ukraine and NATO. Period.

Is there anything unclear in that sentence?
Korvinus 1 | 601
16 Mar 2023 #1,743
The US would not ever tolerate a military alliance between Canada and China or Russia. Period.

Also false equivalence. If US Army invaded Canada without provocation, there would be riots on American streets.
Bobko 14 | 914
16 Mar 2023 #1,744
The Russians endured significant losses, estimated to be 5-7 times the defenders

Respected Western military analysts, such as the American Michael Kofman, the Polish Konrad Muzyka, and the Austrian Franz-Stefan Gady - are saying these 7:1 and 5:1 projections are pure fantasy.

They argue that Wagner has been phenomenally efficient, and that the ratio was before closer to 3:1, and at this point is to the disadvantage of the Ukrainians after Russia managed to roll up the front on the North and South.

Ukraine does not trust it's western allies enough to give them accurate accounts of their losses.
Crnogorac3 2 | 820
16 Mar 2023 #1,745
Radical Ukrainian activist living in Poland wants political representation for growing Ukrainian minority in Polish parliament

As Poland's population of Ukrainians balloons, there are some Ukrainians calling for political representation in the country's parliament, including a controversial activist who has called GdaƄsk a German city and celebrated a Ukrainian nationalist militia that massacred Poles during the Second World War.

t.me/RemixNewsAndViews/2540

A Ukrainian demands that Poland gives about 3 million Ukrainians political representatives in the Polish parliament.
Alien 12 | 2,768
16 Mar 2023 #1,746
@Crnogorac3
Do you know that 300000 native Germans have political representatives in the Polish parliament?
Crnogorac3 2 | 820
16 Mar 2023 #1,747
youtu.be/gSqkKey3LYI

Scott Ritter gives an update on the War in Ukraine
pawian 202 | 21,091
16 Mar 2023 #1,748
A Ukrainian demands

Why are you so mysterious? Tell us his or her name.
Crnogorac3 2 | 820
16 Mar 2023 #1,749
rmx.news/article/radical-ukrainian-activist-living-in-poland-wants-political-representation-for-growing-ukrainian-minority-in-polish-parliament/

Do you know that 300000 native Germans have political representatives in the Polish parliament?

There is a big difference between native and refugee/asylum seekers, immigrants.
pawian 202 | 21,091
16 Mar 2023 #1,750
The US would not ever tolerate a military alliance between Canada and China or Russia. Period.

BS. This "would" makes your argument worthless coz it is the 2nd Conditional which has 0,01% chance to happen. That`s what I teach students about it.

polish-parliament/

No, I want to read this name from you. I never open your Putin propaganda links or vids.

Amassing you insist on evading it.

You can't make this sh*it up, as they

Yes, Crnogorac offers us shyt and you believe it instantly. AmaSSing. :)): Naive as an American - a Polish proverb.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
16 Mar 2023 #1,751
@Crnogorac3
All those Serbian women still looking for some American at the "nightclub" they work at? Maybe another round of NATO bombing should come to Belgrade? Take your Putinazi bull$hit to another place where people GAF about what you say. Or I can just start posting pictures and piles of dead Orcs in Ukraine. Your choice of course.

@Bobko
Not one respected source would use your numbers. The facts are even admitted by the Orcs. Bakhmut is a death sentence for Orcs. Wave after wave getting liquidated. Of course Ukraine soldiers are dying too, but the rate of Russian deaths is supported by the fact that Wagner opened up 42 recruiting centers in Russia, and is cut off from the prison recruiting now because the real Orc army is now recruiting both men and women from prisons. Your country is a dumpster fire.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
16 Mar 2023 #1,752
If US Army invaded Canada without provocation, there would be riots on American streets.

The US would help Canada to elect a more "democratic" ruling swamp first. Then it would give them Iraq treatment.

Ukraine was invited to join NATO in 2008 so treat Russia's visit to Ukraine as preventive maintenance.
The US went to Iraq to PREVENT Saddam from acquiring WMDs. Same thing.
Korvinus 1 | 601
16 Mar 2023 #1,753
The US went to Iraq to PREVENT Saddam from acquiring WMDs.

US is the most influential and powerful state, but it's not an empire, modern post WW2 US is in fact it's on an ideological crusade against imperialism which many countries around the world formerly subjugated by actual imperialist states owe their current independence.

visit to Ukraine as preventive maintenance

Recently Russia has proven it's unable and/or unwilling to:
1. Bring back rebelious ex-client states into the fold - as proven by Ukraine,
2. Protect allies - as proven by Armenia.

Other countries of the former Soviet Union have already noticed. Moldavia is becoming more and more western-oriented. Central Asian republics are turning to China for support and patronage.

Spheres of influence are not given by granted by God - they are won with hard and soft power. It's increasingly obvious Russia lacks both when faced with any other of its geopolitical rivals (USA, Europe, China).
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
16 Mar 2023 #1,754
@Novichok
My dog has more intelligence than that POS. You are beginning to make my dog look real smart yourself. Ukraine has been denied NATO membership multiple times now, time to pull your head out of little Vlads a$$ now and take a deep breath of oxygen.
Tacitus 2 | 1,705
16 Mar 2023 #1,755
such as the American Michael Kofman

Kofman has in fact recently stated that the Ukrainians have achieved their goal of inflicting massive casualties on the Russians at Bakhmut.

pbs.org/newshour/world/as-war-in-ukraine-rages-6-month-battle-for-bakhmut-takes-center-stage

argue that Wagner has been phenomenally efficient,

He is known to have said the exact opposite. He has repeatedly criticized the poor conduct of both the Russian army and Wagner during this war.

Let us be perfectly clear here. No one with any kind of military expertise looks at Bakhmut and thinks "What the Russians are doing there is smart or succesful". If Russia ends up losing this war, then Bakhmut will likely be identified as one of the decisive battles that led to this defeat.
cms neuf - | 2,090
16 Mar 2023 #1,756
If this is Muscovy's idea of preventative maintenance then it's no wonder everything is falling apart there

Will never forget my first night in a Moscow Hotel - the Ukraina. Broken door, broken elevator, broken tv, broken shower, broken faucet.
jon357 71 | 21,098
16 Mar 2023 #1,757
No one with any kind of military expertise looks at Bakhmut and thinks "What the Russians are doing there is smart or succesful".

They've clearly been advised to keep the orcs bogged down there for as long as possible.

If this is Muscovy's idea of preventative maintenance

They have a lot of fires there. Even before this war, Muscovy was a dangerous and chaotic place to be.

Have you read about the spy ring that was busted in Poland? Hidden cameras on major road/rail routes and putting GPDS trackers on trains carrying supplies to Ukraine.

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/16/poland-dismantles-russian-spy-ring/
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
16 Mar 2023 #1,758
Russia already has 20% of Ukraine and 90% of what is worth anything in it.
cms neuf - | 2,090
16 Mar 2023 #1,759
Yes so you keep telling us. When will Putin come and visit his grateful new subjects ?
mafketis 35 | 11,662
17 Mar 2023 #1,760
Muscovy

Doesn't bother russians much..... if you really want to bother them, call it what it is.... Ugro-slavia (a lot of russians are basically slavicized finno-ugric people) as reflected in the physiognomy of putain himself.

One of his doubles was supposedly nicknamed Udmurt.... in a sense russia is just Greater Udmurtia.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,102
17 Mar 2023 #1,761
When will Putin come and visit his grateful new subjects?

A very good question indeed. Throngs of EU politicians visit Ukraine, talk to people, observe the damages. Even granpa Biden paid a visit. When will Putinescu do the same? Or is it more convenient to watch the war from the comforts of one of his dripping with gold mansions?
mafketis 35 | 11,662
17 Mar 2023 #1,762
When will Putinescu

People in his position tend to become reclusive and paranoid.... supposedly he's terrified of the russian people (why he always gets photographed with the same security detail masquerading as fisherman or soldiers or churchgoers) and increasing use of doubles. Latest one has been getting quite a workout lately.

IIRC according to Galeev this began in 2011 when he made a public appearance as was booed because of his poor economic management that marked the beginning of dealing with the public as little as possible.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
17 Mar 2023 #1,763
People in his position tend to become reclusive and paranoid

...did I mention the possibility that he might no longer be "himself"??? Dementia etc...???
Bobko 14 | 914
17 Mar 2023 #1,764
When will Putinescu do the same?

For things to be fair, you have to find when Tony Blair and George Bush thought it was safe to visit Baghdad.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,102
17 Mar 2023 #1,765
Tony Blair and George Bush thought it was safe to visit Baghdad

Yes. However, neither Bush nor Blair claimed that Iraquis and Americans/Brits are two brotherly nations (or even one nation) and that they are just gathering the lands of Anglo-Saxon mir.

Also, I don't expect Putin to go to Kiev. Just Donbass, where he is so much loved and of which he is the liberator. :)
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
17 Mar 2023 #1,766
Slovakia now sending 13 MIGs to Ukraine. I wonder who else has more to send? Wouldn't it poetic to have the Russian designed and made plane contribute to the end of the Orc war? Happy gulag biatches!
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
17 Mar 2023 #1,767
Western scum has a problem with Putin because Western scum lies. They lie to get elected. They lie while in office. They lie us into wars. Western democracy forces them to lie since nobody was ever elected by telling the truth.

So the scum projects their own MO onto Putin and assumes that he, too, lies when he says that all he wants is peace, Ukraine neutrality, and self-determination for Russian minorities.

Here, PF Russia-hating scum can't reconcile low civilian casualties with their lies about the "barbarians" so they lie that Russians are incompetent as barbarians. Sure, a-holes...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,289
17 Mar 2023 #1,768
because Western scum lies.

Everybody in power lies! Fact!

But at least I get every few years the chance to show my liar the finger....without danger to land in a gulag....or to sail out of a window....that is a fact too!

Don't tell me you believe Putin every word that he says?
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,984
17 Mar 2023 #1,769
@Novichok
LMFAO really? Little Vlad, nope not going to invade Ukraine. Next day, little Vlad invades Ukraine. Not lying at all. Little Vlad nope, had nothing to do with Crimea. Little Vlad later admits to Crimea and builds a bridge. Little Vlad nope, nothing to do with Donetsk. Next day little Vlad admits to Donetsk.

Little Vlad the pillar of truth! LMFAO WTF are you smoking Novi?

Little Vlad killing opposition leaders for decades. This is not just an MO it is his well thought out game plan for keeping power. Little Hitler, little North Korea style. He is a melting pot of sickness and mental disease. And you Putinazi fvcks worship this POS. Thank god none of you are in power or in control of anything.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,109
17 Mar 2023 #1,770
As can be expected, your post is pure mental garbage without evidence or quotes. That "worship" tells me you are pure Polish so you can drop "Am". But as long as it gives you joy...

You see, little boy, honest posters differentiate between opinions and facts. Opinions do not need evidence. Facts do. Just a reminder, sweetie..

BTW, how many gulags are there in Russia now?
Also, the surest sign that we are dealing with a loser is when the loser goes "Hitler" or personal. Game over...

He is a melting pot of sickness and mental disease.

Did you talk to his doctors?
Are you OK?


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