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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4


Kashub1410 5 | 517
25 Jan 2023 #2,791
@Novichok
You can read it by their body language, behaviour attitude and way of being.

"Don't forget we took Berlin!"

They also behave as if: "You should be grateful we are so nice to you, otherwise we would have nuked you guys long time ago!"

Not to mention that they are the largest state in the world, wouldn't be surprised if having NATO bases on Mars would count as a threat to Russia!

You cannot trust Russians words for words as they are used in argumentation, not in speaking what they believe or the truth.

Only need to look at their actions
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,792
No one thought Russia was bluffing.

BS. If they were sure Russia would invade, kill, and destroy, they would be talking before the first Russian tank rolled in and most certainly in April. They did not because either (1) they thought Russia was bluffing or (2) they happily planned for that war since 2014.
mafketis 35 | 11,556
25 Jan 2023 #2,793
Send an email to the fossil that nuking Berlin does not need to become a global event

So in the tensest moment in the war... you chicken out and side with the aggressors! Noted, chicken @ass traitor!

How does it feel to be a citizen of a country you swore an oath of loyalty to.... and then to break that oath?
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,794
@Novichok
Yeah, so all the NATO training since 2014 was not planning? WTF? I have had pet goldfish that made more sense than some people on PF.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,795
'Unthinkable' Russia would lose in Ukraine conflict - ex-Japanese PM
Yoshiro Mori lamented Tokyo siding with Kiev at the cost of its relationship with Moscow


It is "almost unthinkable" that Russia would lose in the Ukraine conflict, former Japanese prime minister Yoshiro Mori has said, questioning the US-led drive to support Kiev, which Tokyo has joined.

Unthinkable and unlikely since nuclear powers never lost a war yet except the US to the peasants in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Bobko 12 | 598
25 Jan 2023 #2,796
Meanwhile in Russia, all Putin coxuckers are now referring to Germany as Nazi's

Mmm, not really. We're simply saddened to see yet another German leader bent over and penetrated. For some months, one could admire Scholz's stubbornness in the face of a 360 degree attack. Some kind of Teutonic stoicism. Then it broke.

These Germans, they're not the same Germans as before.

We'll digest their tanks. Then we'll embarrass their overlord in Washington.

No hate for Germans, only pity.
Alien 12 | 2,675
25 Jan 2023 #2,797
Unthinkable and unlikely since nuclear powers never lost a war yet except the US to the peasants in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

and UdSSR to the peasants in Afganistan either.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,798
@Bobko
The only ones getting bent over are you Russian's who are taking it deep from US and NATO weapons. Long strokes on your dumbasses. LMFAO What a loser nation. What an embarrassment of a once super power. Dog food and convicts, nothing more.

Why dont you go home and volunteer tough guy? Too busy sucking on USA tit?
Alien 12 | 2,675
25 Jan 2023 #2,799
We'll digest their tanks

Take better Pantoprazol, they can be hard to digest.
Velund 1 | 673
25 Jan 2023 #2,800
and UdSSR

The Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan was not as shameful and panicked as the US, and the Afghans were left with bridges and roads, not billions worth of abandoned military equipment. ;)
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,801
@Velund
Soviets were pu$$ies and Russians are pu$$ies. Now explain the difference between the two other than type of government. Billions of abandoned equipment that can not be used, and billions that Russia does not even have. You and your country, nothing but losers.
cms neuf - | 2,073
25 Jan 2023 #2,802
Russian roads and Russian bridges LOL - falling down crap like in a long 19th century novel.

Thank god we have joined the EU and get proper roads now. It will be a happy day for our friends and neighbors in Ukraine when they get the same chance
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,803
We'll digest their tanks. Then we'll embarrass their overlord in Washington.

Such a statement could be made by a superpower like China. Russia is not China - you have population lower than Bangladesh, gdp p/c lower than Guyana and army ruined by decades of systematic theft. That's reality - time to acknowledge it.

Soviets were pu$$ies and Russians are pu$$ies.

Neither is true. Moreover, it's blatantly false. Russians are a tough nation, used to struggle and hardship, but their country today is desperately corrupt and weak and their government is leading them to a disaster.
Tacitus 2 | 1,736
25 Jan 2023 #2,804
were left with destroyed bridges and roads,

Fixed. The Soviets systematically destroyed infrastructure during the war, including canals needed for agriculture. Which in hindsight seems like a pattern now.
pawian 200 | 21,491
25 Jan 2023 #2,805
the women would get raped.

Cut down on those sick dreams of yours. Why are our Am posters so obsessed with raping? Is it sth in the water??
mafketis 35 | 11,556
25 Jan 2023 #2,806
russia attacks NATO!!!!!!!!!!

russians hit the Turkish ship Tuzla in the Ukraine port of Kherson.....

what a filthy and despicable country russia is.....

russia doesn't do anything but destroy in a vain effort to make the rest of the world as miserable as it is....

Ukraine should receive everything it needs to remove the russia pestilence from its lands.
jon357 71 | 20,799
25 Jan 2023 #2,807
Ukraine should receive everything it needs

And with the news today and yesterday, they're well on their way.

Death to all orcs.
Bobko 12 | 598
25 Jan 2023 #2,808
Such a statement could be made by a superpower

So then we will not digest their tanks? It will only take a few months to see. Stick around... maybe I'm wrong.

What is funny, is that while we are very poor indeed, we are much better off then the Soviet Union was compared to Germany in WW2. It's why German decisions only seem so utterly absurd in retrospect. The Soviet Union was a literal nation of peasants, while Germany was an industrial and scientific powerhouse.

This isn't to say that Russia is some kind of a galactic superpower, but that we have an anomalously "stupid" tradition among our elites, in comparison to Western ones, to disregard certain costs - and from that point of view Russia in just as good shape as it was in the 1940s.
pawian 200 | 21,491
25 Jan 2023 #2,809
It will only take a few months to see

In a few months the rebelled Russian army will be marching against the Kremlin. :):):)

The Soviet Union was a literal nation of peasants

Do not diminish your ancestors so much. Soviets had managed to build heavy industry before the WW2.

"stupid" tradition among our elites to disregard certain costs

Yes, we know - the infamous motto of Russian elites - we have a lot of people - meaning - we don`t care about losses.

Yes, it is nice to belong to Russian elites. How about common Russians - are they also happy??? :):):)
mafketis 35 | 11,556
25 Jan 2023 #2,810
Russia in just as good shape as it was in the 1940s

80 years and no progress...... what a thing to be proud of!???!
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,811
@GefreiterKania
Russians are pu$$ies. The past, does not represent the future. No Russian I have known for the last 30 years has any balls to fight. Stop being nostalgic and realize the world has changed. No one is romantic about Russia except those that chose to be.

@Bobko
Go home tough guy. Stop hiding behind the skirt of democracy. Volunteer and give you life for Russia, anything less just shows you are like the rest of Russia. A coward.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,812
So then we will not digest their tanks

Perhaps, perhaps not. You digest 300, 500 more will be sent. You digest 500, 1000 will be sent. Industrial capacity of collective West dwarves that of Russia.

The point is, you made it sound (especially the part about embarassing the US) as if the last 11 months didn't happen. They did, and we know quite well what Russian army is capable of in 2023 (and it's not 'digesting' tanks and embarassing superpowers).

Russia in just as good shape as it was in the 1940s.

The problem is that you had lend-lease and the US on your side in 1940s. Without it Adolf's army would march happily into Moscow, if not in 1941 then in 1942.

Besides, you didn't have the demographic problem back then that you have now. Even after the Slavic Slaughter 1.0 (also called WW2), the Soviet Union was demographically safe and rebuilt the war losses. These days Russian (and Slavic in general) demographics are disastrous, and what does Russia do? She starts Slavic Slaughter 2.0 (started with Russians and Ukrainians, soon Belarus and Poland are likely to join the slaughter, later maybe others). Brilliant move. Russians used to be geopolitical 'chess players', sometimes making mistakes but in general formidable strategists. When did they turn into retarded pouting kids with a death wish? How did this happen? Mind boggles.

No one is romantic about Russia

I am. It's a very romantic country. Cruel, corrupt and violent, but also poetic and romantic. You need a Slavic soul to see it.
pawian 200 | 21,491
25 Jan 2023 #2,813
but also poetic and romantic

No more poetic or romantic if we know most Russians support Putin and his war.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,814
if we know most Russians support Putin and his war.

That's a different thing altogether. Most Russians (as most people everywhere) are susceptible to propaganda; and putinist propaganda is in a league of its own - devious and omnipresent as no other. Add to this a 'surrounded stronghold syndrome' and a certain measure of historical resentment after the fall of the SU, and the support of general population is not that hard to comprehend.

What IS effin' hard to comprehend is their government - their elites in general. Chess players turned village thugs. Unbelievable.
pawian 200 | 21,491
25 Jan 2023 #2,815
Chess players turned village thugs.

The last true chess player was Stalin who wasn`t even Russian. All his successors were homo sovieticus morons who eventually led to the demise of the USSR. Putin is no better as their KGB heir, he is also leading Russia to the imminent collapse.

That is why we should be thankful to him, like we are to Gorbachev. hahahaha
Bobko 12 | 598
25 Jan 2023 #2,816
Chess players turned village thugs

I don't know what chess players you're talking about. Everything is the same, or maybe even a little bit better than usual. Russia has been uniquely blessed with moronic leaders. Most progress achieved by Russia was despite our government, and with strong efforts on its part to prevent us from repeating such exercises. It is what makes it fun to live in Russia.

Putin will seem like a real Machiavelli when compared to Khrushchev, for example. You could also take the example of Paul I, whose entire foreign policy was based on doing the opposite of what his mother wanted - French Revolution and European peace be damned! Nicholas I is of course in a league of his own when it comes to retardation. Russia has had only a handful of "chess" players, and actually few "thugs" but instead mostly people very much unsuited to government.

In many ways, the current Russia is the best Russia there ever was. Sorry, not sorry.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,817
I don't know what chess players you're talking about.

Well, neither imperial Russia nor USSR built themselves just like that. Especially USSR was a global superpower, with real accomplishments in science, agriculture and industry, and with a military force that was at least respectable. All that couldn't have been achieved without crafty and cunning leaders.

Khrushchev might not have been an eagle of intellect but even he wouldn't throw the fate of his country into such an idiotic war for nothing as Putin's Ukrainian "adventure".

In many ways, the current Russia is the best Russia there ever was.

Seriously? The dying-out gas station, with poor population despite immense natural riches, the lowest life expectancy in civilised world and exorbitant levels of corruption is the best Russia there ever was??? That's one of the worst russophobic statements I've ever seen on PF! ;)
Miloslaw 14 | 4,912
25 Jan 2023 #2,818
Khrushchev might not have been an eagle of intellect but even he wouldn't throw the fate of his country into such an idiotic war

Never a truer word spoken.

That's one of the worst russophobic statements I've ever seen on PF! ;)

Agreed.Bobko has bought into the Russian propaganda and is incapable of opening his eyes.
Russia is finished.....
Bobko 12 | 598
25 Jan 2023 #2,819
is the best Russia there ever was??

Better than when the majority of the population were serfs, or worked on collectivized farms. Yes. Much more democratic than at any point in the last thousand years too (Novgorod Republic and Yeltsin excluded). With much less censorship.

Life can only be learned in contrasts.
Miloslaw 14 | 4,912
25 Jan 2023 #2,820
. Much more democratic

That is not saying much by Russian standards!
Bobko, you live in the west, open your eyes man!!!!

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