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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4


Paulina 13 | 3,328
24 Jan 2023 #2,761
@Crnogorac3, you're lying - you don't feel sad when Ukrainian youth is getting killed - you rejoice in your comments and even post videos with grinning emoticons and thumbs up. If your soul was hurting about how many people died, you wouldn't be supporting RuSSian invasion of Ukraine, but you are supporting it. You're a sickening liar.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
24 Jan 2023 #2,762
Europe would be demolished by Russia without having the U.S.A standing behind you.

Perfect.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
24 Jan 2023 #2,763
except for sending fresh conscripts to be slaughtered......

I am so glad Z is not doing any of that. A true humanitarian...
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,764
Quoting:
Arming Ukraine a 'big business' opportunity - Zelensky
I agree. It's all about money, not "democracy" and "freedom".
cms neuf - | 2,073
25 Jan 2023 #2,765
But Russia has one of the biggest arms businesses in the world so is in no place to complain about that

Though of course some of those customers are probably looking for the receipt now, having seen how inferior your arms are.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,766
New York

Times report

The US apparently wants to send up to 50 Abrams tanks to Ukraine

spiegel.de/ausland/usa-wollen-offenbar-bis-zu-50-abrams-panzer-in-die-ukraine-schicken-new-york-times-bericht-a-406cc90f-cceb-493b-83fb-657b6d7d4460

The decision is said to have been made: As the New York Times reports, the US government will deliver between 30 and 50 M1 Abrams main battle tanks to Ukraine.

There is more to come....after the Bundeswehr is done...

Rheinmetall could deliver 139 Leopard tanks to Ukraine

...The German armaments group Rheinmetall could deliver a total of 139 Type 1 and Type 2 Leopard tanks to Ukraine. This was announced by his spokesman to the "Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland" (RND). "We still have 22 Leopard 2A4 vehicles that we could prepare for use and deliver to Ukraine," said the company spokesman.

»The repair of these vehicles would take almost a year. Delivery would be possible at the end of 2023/beginning of 2024. In addition, there are 29 Leopard 2A4s that we are working on for the ring exchange projects and that we will have ready by April/May 2023." Rheinmetall could make 88 Leopard 1 vehicles available. ....

GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,767
There is more to come....after the Bundeswehr is done...

I feel that there is a new Sabaton song coming - "Leopards in the Snow".

Then the Leopards arrived
Coming down the mountainside
Then the Leopards arrived
Coming down they turned the tide


la la la la la, na na na na na!

:)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,769
.....I still wonder how the reactions to the Iron Crosses on the Leopards will be....on this soil.....maybe they will be removed before (as with the polish tanks?)....

I mean I LOVE them, don't get me wrong, I think they are super cool, but I'm German....and there will be older Ukrainians still alive who will remember the other Panzers...
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,770
The crosses will definitely be removed, not to give Russian propagandists any material to use.

Besides, it's a secondary issue - the most important thing is for Ukraine to win, the Free World to rejoice and Russia to be freed from the evil putinist regime. A win-win-win situation for everyone.
GefreiterKania 25 | 1,187
25 Jan 2023 #2,771
What does moderation say about that? (...) My soul hurts (...) I feel sadness

Crnogorac
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,772
30 Abrams tanks will be sent to Ukraine. These tanks are the biggest and nastiest on the planet. If a few hundred Leopards are out there with Abrams, Russia is going to have to rethink everything. First day of ground war in middle east, Abrams took out 500 of the enemy tanks. Russian tanks will not even be able to get within shooting range of these.
mafketis 35 | 11,556
25 Jan 2023 #2,773
It's all about money, not "democracy" and "freedom".

What's wrong with "democracy" and "freedom".... why do you hate them so much?

Do you really think that "unaccountable dictatorship" is better? why?

And if it is about money then two possibilities arise.....

one- putain is an absolute dope for letting himself get suckered into this

two- putain himself is in on it and raking in money too....

there is no third option.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,774
BREAKING:

El Mundo reports that Spain may send 53 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1618190712901890051

BREAKING:

Finnish media reports that "more than 10 Leopards" have been spotted being transported into the port city of Hanko.

It means that Finland might be about to send more then 5 Leopards that have been mentioned in other media reports.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1618178614792712195

Who wants quick updates should reall folle Visegrad on Twitter! :)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,775
BREAKING:

Sweden's Defense Minister Pål Jonson stated this morning that Sweden might send its Stridsvagn 122 tanks (modernized Leopard 2A5s) to Ukraine.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1618151402999799810

New York Times: Pentagon to increase artillery production by 500% for Ukraine.

The United States Army's top acquisition official told the New York Times that U.S. production of 155-millimeter shells would increase to 90,000 a month within two years.

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1618088385083772931

Well....can someone say "Lend-lease II" ? And that is only the beginning....that's what Putin had to avoid at all costs, a war of attrition, with the whole money and material of the NATO available to Ukraine...and I guess he never ever thought of that, sure being done with Ukraine after a few weeks.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,776
So....now we have the official words:

Germany delivers 14 Leopard tanks to Ukraine

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-am-mittwoch-melnyk-fordert-kampfjets-und-u-boote-fuer-kiew-a-60c6c630-fb3d-442d-935c-998ee72b4d95

Berlin is delivering 14 Leopard 2-A6 main battle tanks to Kyiv. "We act in a closely coordinated manner internationally," says the Federal Chancellor.

11:43 a.m .: As a first step, Germany wants to deliver 14 Leopard 2A6 main battle tanks from the Bundeswehr's stocks to Ukraine. This was announced by government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit in a statement.


Now it's official.....
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,777
@mafketis
Novi forgets that Democracy and Freedom create economic conditions for the "people" of any nation to rise above their usually impoverished standard of living. People on this forum like to forget that Democracy and Freedom afford them the life that they currently live. They hat the EU and the USA so much but refuse to leave because its too good. Do as I say, not as I do attitude.

What little Vald needs to be doing now instead of making threats is finding a way to the negotiating table. Little Vlad needs to find a position he can accept and save face in Russia or he is done. Every day that passes without Vlads promised victory is a day closer to Vlads end.
johnny reb 40 | 8,625
25 Jan 2023 #2,778
People on this forum like to forget that Democracy and Freedom afford them the life that they currently live.

SPOT ON !
And we have the American Soldiers to thank for that because it is them who afford that to America and Europe thru their sacrifices and dedication.

The gravy train may be over for Europe's protection however as the U.S. military is not getting the recruits to fill a very large void.

And what will happen to Poland's ego if America pulls out of their back yard ? :-o
The loud-mouthed armchair generals here (both male and female) may have to step up and join their countries military. (God forbid !)
The dogs would get fat from eating the European armchair generals and the women would get raped.
Now there is something to think about today.
Tacitus 2 | 1,736
25 Jan 2023 #2,779
Depending on how the war concludes, Europe may no longer need American protection the way it used to.

It is entirely possible that as a result, the Russian army will be broken and never again be able to threaten Europe, especially in light of Russia's future demographic and economic woes.
amiga500 3 | 1,314
25 Jan 2023 #2,780
the Russian army will be broken and never again be able to threaten Europe

The same thing was said of Germany after WWI? Yeah that turned out fine..

Anyway Poland needs american muscle to help prevent Germany selling Europe's soul to the chinese, like they previously sold europe to the ruskis.
so the yanks ain't goin anywhere, much to the chagrin of some.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,781
Anyway Poland needs american muscle to help prevent Germany selling Europe's soul to the chinese,

I totally agree with you on the Chinese, but how should USian muscle in Poland prevent a german sell-out to them???

(There was and still is lotsa USian muscle down right here in Germany, alot more than in Poland, and they didn't prevent the german cozying up to Russia at all)
johnny reb 40 | 8,625
25 Jan 2023 #2,782
Is anyone paying attention ?
A Russian warship armed with 'unstoppable' hypersonic missiles has sailed towards the US coast in a 'show of strength', reports say.
You armchair generals are underestimating Russia and may be in for a big surprise when the weather breaks this spring.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,783
@johnny reb
Don't get too excited buddy. There was a Russian spy ship near Hawaii for more than a week not too long ago. Russia is not going to try anything directly against the US. Even Putin not that crazy or stupid. Maybe the US should stop flying such good spy satellites over Russia and NK?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,340
25 Jan 2023 #2,784
....I only know of one on its way to South Africa for drills....is there another?
johnny reb 40 | 8,625
25 Jan 2023 #2,785
Russia is not going to try anything directly against the US.

My dog won't bite you either unless you provoke him past his redline and kick him hard enough.
Kashub1410 5 | 517
25 Jan 2023 #2,786
@johnny reb
Problem is Russias red line begins in Berlin, not everyone agrees with it.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,787
Problem is Russias red line begins in Berlin,

Who in Russia told you that?
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,788
Russia today warned that Germany's decision to send dozens of modern tanks to Ukraine is 'extremely dangerous' and will 'take the conflict to a new level'.

A year ago, Western morons thought Russia was bluffing and would not invade. I apologize for that "Western morons" redundancy.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,998
25 Jan 2023 #2,789
@Novichok
No one thought Russia was bluffing. Not even Ukraine who beat the Orcs back from Kiev. US announced to everyone what would happen before it happened. Go take some Geritol and work on those memory cards, your mind is failing you.

Meanwhile in Russia, all Putin coxuckers are now referring to Germany as Nazi's. Of course these Soviet fascist fvcks want to call people Nazi's when they use Nazi tactics. In Russia, Lada is introducing a new model car, a small three cylinder engine that combusts when detecting a pulse and turns into driving crematorium.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,672
25 Jan 2023 #2,790
Germany 'at war' with Russia - FM
Annalena Baerbock made the admission in a debate with EU colleagues, pushing for the delivery of tanks to Kiev
Arguing in favor of sending tanks to Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said EU countries were fighting a war against Russia. US and EU officials have previously gone out of their way to claim they were not a party to the conflict in Ukraine.


Russia's next move: Send an email to the fossil that nuking Berlin does not need to become a global event and to Berlin with an ultimatum to cease and desist.

Stupidity needs a new definition: Germany killing Russians again. By proxies or directly. That technicality matters only among PF morons, not in Russia.

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