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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4


Alien 12 | 2,818
31 Oct 2022 #181
@Novichok; 80% of Kyiv without water after strikes.....
But only few hours. On the other hand, the lack of water or electricity in Crimea is commonplace.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,305
31 Oct 2022 #182
Do you mean the NATO that had its ass handed to it by goat herders in Afghanistan or some other NATO?

But only few hours.

OK. I will call Hill to tell them they are full of it. Thanks.
Is electricity being out just as temporary?
mafketis 35 | 11,728
31 Oct 2022 #183
the NATO that had its ass handed to it by goat herders in Afghanistan

the problem is if you bomb the crap out of Afghanistan it's hard to tell what happened.... russia is flatter and the effects will be far more visible....

does putain really wanna find out? is part of Ukraine worth gambling the lives of 10s of millions of people?

NATO can totally surround russia's puny weak self and nothing russia can do about it... failed state that can only attack civilians.... there's no coherent ideology, no idea of a better future just plain brute force.... russia just might find out it's not the biggest brute on the block....
OP Novichok 4 | 7,305
31 Oct 2022 #184
Quoting RT.com:

Ukrainians could 'freeze to death' this winter - Kiev mayor
To avert disaster, Vitaly Klitschko urges the West to urgently send blankets and warm clothing


...as well as global warming causing gas and oil. When asked by a reporter, the mayor replied that climate change is no longer a priority.
pawian 202 | 21,196
31 Oct 2022 #185
failed state that can only attack civilians

And Ukrainians develop only more and more hatred towards RuSSists. The latter are really halfwits if they believe that Ukrainians can be forced to surrender.

I am quite sure Ukrainians are planning a nasty retaliation on RuSSists - Ukrainian suicide drones, missiles, sabotage units will wreak havoc in RuSSist infrastructure like power stations that are close enough to Ukraine.
Crnogorac3 2 | 836
31 Oct 2022 #186
youtu.be/yFW38_yoLM0

2022.10.30 Why NATO Attacked Crimea (hint, the G20 Summit)

youtu.be/yxHqLfUqN6A

2022.10.31 Inflation As A Prelude To War
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,037
31 Oct 2022 #187
@Novichok
Ukraine wont freeze. Russian ****** being exported to Kiev to keep everyone warm since in Kiev they at least have McDonalds and can still drive Mercedes. Happy gulag biatches.
cms neuf - | 2,111
31 Oct 2022 #188
I love Klitschko - an elected politician who stands beside his people and doesn't cower in bunkers.

Compare it to murderers like Putin and his bosses in Iran.
Kashub1410 5 | 607
31 Oct 2022 #189
@Crnogorac3
Why not state that U.N attacked Crimea? Or E.U attacked Crimea? What about China attacking Crimea? If you are gonna lie, might as well do it more stupidly
mafketis 35 | 11,728
31 Oct 2022 #190
Why NATO Attacked Crimea (hint, the G20 Summit)

NATO didn't "attack Crimea" russia did....

if NATO attacked Crimea that roto chileno would be begging for mercy....

Compare it to murderers like Putin and his bosses in Iran.

cowards attract cowards....
mafketis 35 | 11,728
31 Oct 2022 #191
Breaking! Big explosion in st pete (russia) probably a gas explosion of the kind that happen in third world cr@ph0les....

what a loser country... only surpassed in loserdom by its supporters....
Miloslaw 15 | 4,725
31 Oct 2022 #192
Breaking! Big explosion in st pete

There are Russian anti war movements blowing up lots of Russian stuff right now.

The Ukrainians are on the verge of retaking Kherson.
If they achieve that, the Russians will be on the verge of losing the war.
If they retake Crimea, Russia has lost.
Kashub1410 5 | 607
1 Nov 2022 #193
@Miloslaw
Depends on which form of government will come after Putin, if it's Putins Club or liberal sellouts it will get worse. If it will be patriotic Russians who oppose both Liberals and Putin then Russia still have a chance to gain anything out of this conflict.

Russia most likely won't control Crimea and eastern Ukraine and it's status as a power will drop even further no matter who holds the reigns in Russia.

Conveniently it can be all blamed on Putin, then worked on in a good way after that.

If I were in Russia, I would have campaigned for Kaliningrad to be donated to me as a person property and using all the means being there to transform it from being a military outpost to a economical and diplomatical hub.

Economical in sense of opening groundbreaking educational organisations that would be taxed very lowly (max 10%)

Opening for tech to be developed with regard to money transfers, currency creation, app development, robotic technologies, beautiful art program for the sake of bringing more beauty and good to this world compared to all that has been done in this war (making a new turn).

Creating a diplomatical building with one part of the building dedicated to religious matters and another building dedicated to diplomatical matters regarding Slavic matters (Slavs as in people/nations/tribes etc, not paganism).

This would increase Russian influence among Slavic states in a good way.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,037
1 Nov 2022 #194
@Kashub1410
The only way Russia survives is if centrists get into control. Too far left or right and nothing good will come of it. Russian's like everyone else are patriotic people and simply want their country to be better for them. The idea that Russia has become better for itself since Putin came to power is the joke of the century. Russia has to modernize, and innovate. Those two items will prove difficult when they are going to be paying hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild Ukraine over the next decade or so.

Russia has lost the EU as its chief fossil fuel buyer, and India and China are backing off their purchasing. The oil and gas plumet is coming probably some time next summer. When that happens, Russia will be selling oil at a discount just to try to create a market. It will be 30 to 40 years before Russia recovers from this war. Long term, I would not be buying anything that any government after Putin trys selling.
cms neuf - | 2,111
1 Nov 2022 #195
I think it will take Russia one full generation to recover from this

It's leadership of the Slavic world was already doubtful - now it is finished for good

I can't see a way that Krolowiec remains in Russian hands - we obviously don't want the risk of more Nazis in Central Europe

I agree that a full shock therapy imposition of liberalism won't work because the education levels are too low. Rather it will need a new generation to be educated in tolerance and law and free markets. That can take place while their parents are rebuilding Ukraine
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,037
1 Nov 2022 #196
Lavrov, second retard on the world stage is today saying that "it is safe to say that no one will ever be able to stop the Russian economy or undermine domestic political stability," LMFAO

These are exactly the kind of statements made by people when the exact opposite is taking place. When political stability is being talked about that means there is instability in their house right now. This makes a lot of sense considering more and more people are opening criticizing the direction of this misguided war. Putin should be more than a little nervous these days. I wonder if he has a person tasting his food for him these days?
Alien 12 | 2,818
1 Nov 2022 #197
if he has a person tasting his food for him these days?

This person has long died of food poisoning.
pawian 202 | 21,196
1 Nov 2022 #198
It will be 30 to 40 years before Russia recovers from this war.

And the regions which are controlled by RuSSists now will seperate from RuSSia and become independent or join neighbouring countries where life standards are much higher than in Putinland. Even Ukraine after rebuilding.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,037
1 Nov 2022 #199
Kherson will fall soon now. The east bank of the river is being evacuated. The end is near for the Orc's in the area. Orc's being repelled in the key area's of Kharkiv now as well. Just when a report came out that Ukraine has developed the technology for autonomous drones. Unmanned, non radio controlled AI drones that can hunt down camouflaged Orc military vehicles and personnel without any connection to a controller on the other end. This would all but defeat all radio and signal jamming eing used in the area. If this is true, and it probably is, the Orc's stand no chance now. Ukraine can hunt Orc's in their sleep literally.
OP Novichok 4 | 7,305
1 Nov 2022 #200
Kherson will fall soon now.

On my list, Kherson falling or not is number 179.
pawian 202 | 21,196
1 Nov 2022 #201
On my list,

What is NO 1???
mafketis 35 | 11,728
1 Nov 2022 #202
russia... societal failure keeps on going....

about 1/5 of the mobilized who are admitted to have died, die..... long before the could have been sent to Ukraine....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1587538718809694208

russia... puny little cr@p country that thought it could compete with NATO..... ha ha ha....

the inherent inferiority of russia is sooooo obvious
Miloslaw 15 | 4,725
1 Nov 2022 #203
There are some great comments on this thread, here are just some of rhem;

Depends on which form of government will come after Putin

Another;

The only way Russia survives is if centrists get into control

And one more;

I think it will take Russia one full generation to recover from this

mafketis 35 | 11,728
1 Nov 2022 #204
In the "unintended consequences" category....

russia has no soft or diplomatic power left.... if it doesn't have the brute military force to do what it threatens it can be safely ignored....

twitter.com/y_akopov/status/1587117594003267585

"don't bring a second rate inferior army like russia's to a NATO fight" is the lesson here....
Miloslaw 15 | 4,725
1 Nov 2022 #205
russia has no soft or diplomatic power left

"don't bring a second rate inferior army like russia's to a NATO fight" is the lesson here

Two great points Maf.
jon357 72 | 21,310
2 Nov 2022 #206
russia has no soft or diplomatic power left

Basically a busted flush.

if it doesn't have the brute military force

Brute military force is not only what they specialise in, it's pretty well all they can do; Ukraine and the west even outsmart them in maskirovka now.

I was reading about the Second Chechen War. I remember at the time all the outrage when it was found that there was a slave market in Chechnya. What I didn't know is that most of the slaves were actually r*ssian conscripts sold to the Vhechens by their own commanders. That's the level of trash we're dealing with.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,037
2 Nov 2022 #207
The US now has weapons experts in Ukraine making sure no weapons are reaching the black market, and ensuring things are going as planned. No wonder things are going so well. When you have the right guys on the ground in small numbers even they can organize a win against a clearly over rated Orc army. Now the Orc's are buying more missiles from Iran. Strange how many Orc supporters only a few weeks ago were claiming they had plenty of missiles and now they have to buy from Iran? How fing low can Russia be when they have to ask Iran for help? Iran? They cant even hold an election without people getting murdered in the street. And now Iran is doing business with Russia who regularly exports prostitutes to the rest of the Muslim and Arab world? So much for the Koran eh?
Korvinus 1 | 619
2 Nov 2022 #208
Ruskies in day one : Entire Ukraine in 2 weeks
Reality : 9 months, only 17,3% of UA and decreasing

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cms neuf - | 2,111
2 Nov 2022 #209
Thanks Korvinus - best laugh I have had all week.

I see the Russian drunk losers are summoning the British ambassador to complain about the toy boats that have been attacking their ships
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,327
2 Nov 2022 #210
....that must be embarrassing...

But seriously....the Ukrainians surprised everybody!

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