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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4


Ziemowit 14 | 4,404
27 Oct 2022 #91
Desatanization ... Putin should be a psychiatric patient by now. Some people say he's been living in the world of his own illusions for quite a time.

And Russia has been a sick man of the world for quite a time, too.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
27 Oct 2022 #92
@Novichok
This war isn't going to end any time soon. You can still visit Russia. I have an associate that was just there a few weeks ago. Have to go through Turkey to get there or another round about route. Moscow could use the USD as well. Still need to have an invitation though in order to get your visa processed. I would also recommend hiring former KGB as bodyguard just in case. Russia has never been safe for people with blue passports, and its more dangerous than the early 90's now.

As Estonia and other nations begin to label Russia as a terrorist nation, a movement will likely soon begin in the UN to do the same. Once that happens, Russia will lose China and India in one minute and then it will get crazy inside Russian borders. Look for Iran to start backing off Russia soon as they can not handle more sanctions.
Tacitus 2 | 1,625
27 Oct 2022 #93
There was an interesting German article on the use of Western weapons in Ukraine. Apparantly the reason why Russian forces are repelled again and again at Bakhmut is because Polish AHS Krab and German PZH 2000 are taking turns blowing the sh*it out of the invaders.
Tacitus 2 | 1,625
27 Oct 2022 #95
@Paulina

From what I've read Ukrainians praise both PZH 2000 and AHS Krab.

That is what the article stated as well. The Russians have nothing comparable in range and accuracy. Hopefully new ones will soon be produced an delivered.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082
27 Oct 2022 #96
Hopefully new ones will soon be produced an delivered.

Or even better....the most modern successor:

....At the Eurosatory, KMW is presenting a new howitzer in which the advanced turret of the Panzerhaubitze 2000 (PzH 2000) was installed on a boxer. RCH 155 is the name of the entire system, Artillery Gun Module (AGM) is the further development of the PzH 2000 element. ....

behoerden-spiegel.de/2022/06/15/kmw-haubitze-die-waehrend-der-fahrt-schiesst/



- can be reloaded while driving
- can shoot while driving
- needs only a two men crew
- can use the same ammunition as the PZH 2000

Macht hinne!!! :)
Tacitus 2 | 1,625
27 Oct 2022 #97
KMW has already agreed to produce those for Ukraine, but sadly those won't be ready for 2 or 3 years.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
27 Oct 2022 #98
Reading what Putin has been speaking about at the Valdai Discussion Club forum in Moscow, it is crystal clear now that he is fvcking delusional. The man has lost his mind and cannot tell reality from dream world. This dumb Fvcktard actually thinks Russia is an influencer equal to the US and China. He thinks Russia is actually important to real developed and civilized countries when the truth is the complete opposite. Anyone following this fvcktard is a fvcktard plain and simple.
Miloslaw 14 | 4,529
27 Oct 2022 #99
Anyone following this fvcktard is a fvcktard plain and simple.

I could not agree more.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
28 Oct 2022 #100
@Novichok
Was not born yet. The events of 1939 are not predictors or indicative of anything in the future. However, history should teach everyone how to identify a fvcktard like Hitler. But Putin, according to you and others is not Hitler. While his genocidal actions would say otherwise, I would agree, Putin does not even have the charisma or energy that Hitler had. There is no mass appeal, the cult of personality is completely missing. He is a boring drip who is a street thug who got lucky and got appointed to his position by a stumbling drunk in Yeltsin. Not exactly a great political resume'. Putin not only lacks personality, but he lacks intelligence outside of that prison or gang mentality.

Think of how poorly Putin has lead Russia. How much opportunity he has wasted and allowed oligarchs to steel. Imelda Marcos was not such a thief. Putin could have been beyond successful if he had just tried to operate a real country. The natural resources Russia has could have built one of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous counties in the last 20 years. Wasted opportunity is an indicator of low intelligence.

Has anyone else bothered to read what the chief fvcktard was saying in his speech? Rambling bull$hit and nonsense. It leads me to question just how stupid Lavrov and Peskov really are. Are these two really that scared of falling out of a window that they can not speak intelligently to Putin? Are the generals this stupid? Are all the people on PF that cheer for this idiot really this stupid? If so, the world is in much worse shape than most could have believed.
cms neuf - | 1,947
28 Oct 2022 #101
That is true - the shots of the dusty recruiting offices and the rural towns and the crappy bus and trains look like something from a 19th century Gogol play.

They show how Russia has stood still or even gone backwards under Putin's rule. But looking at the attitudes of the people they maybe deserve it for being so subservient and not trying to improve things
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,360
28 Oct 2022 #102
hose won't be ready for 2 or 3 years.

hahahhaa! typical!

the PZH 2000

Do You know that Polish KRAB is better than your PZH 2000? Sadlly our own gov will kill it with their own hands bying Korean PH.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082
28 Oct 2022 #103
Do You know that Polish KRAB is better than your PZH 2000?

NOT TRUE!!!

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!!

:)

armedforces.eu/compare/self-propelled_artillery_AHS_Krab_vs_Panzerhaubitze_2000

(they are quite similiar)
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,360
28 Oct 2022 #104
(they are quite similiar)

On paper but data from battefield tell us that Polish one is better.
Kashub1410 5 | 467
28 Oct 2022 #105
@Cojestdocholery
I am not surprised by that fact, Polish weapon industry aren't tasked with mandatory duty to equip a certain minimal standard for every soldier there is.

Leading to lack of tasks to perform and limited to less predictable situation German counterparts.

Instead of having a job to perform, they have to focus more on bargaining for sales to the Polish government

Whole point of taxes is to avoid such a situation and give a stable predictable amount of tax money to the weapon industry to outfit soldiers with bare minimum of equipment from own industry
Tacitus 2 | 1,625
28 Oct 2022 #106
but data from battefield

Which data? I dont think we any objective data on how weapon systems performed aside from anecdotal ones. We know that PzH2000s had to be repaired after heavy use that exceeded thwir daily capacity, but we do not know often they were used, if they used wrong ammunition and how use varied from comparable systems and how old the weapons were.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,360
28 Oct 2022 #107
I dont think we any objective data

I know people who have acess to data how those PH preform in Ukrainie.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
28 Oct 2022 #108
Orc nation has now set up a secondary front line in Kherson. The first front line is full of conscripts and prisoners. The second line behind them has been told to kill anyone retreating from the first line. Welcome to the meat grinder. Hamburger being made on both sides of the front. What a Fvcked up leader orders this?
Alien 12 | 2,217
28 Oct 2022 #109
@PolAmKrakow
This is exactly like in the WW2. 20mln casualties. The war is won.
mafketis 35 | 11,212
28 Oct 2022 #110
Thought I'd share this.... explanations for putain's mad decision to invade Ukraine tend to divide into

material: related to political and military structures like big scary NATO (which the russian military didn't care about at all....) and others

ideological: related to local nationalist fruitcake ideas like russia-Belarus-Ukraine as a 'triune nation' under moscow's control and others

putain himself has listed a whole bunch of reasons but most of them don't seem fully convincing on their own...

Now, here's a material explanation that makes perfect sense on its own and aligns with verifiable facts rather than weird interpretations of speeches.... and interestingly it's the one that putain has never mentioned (which gives it a certain credibility.....)

In short: Ukraine's attempts to de-oligarchize society and politics were deposing the very crooks that moscow had been using to control the country...

better explained here:

twitter.com/mattsteinglass/status/1585754160812679170
mafketis 35 | 11,212
28 Oct 2022 #111
In Crimea today a regional head of RT was killed in a shooting "accident".....

hmmmmm

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1586082506386071554
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082
28 Oct 2022 #112
The Russian army apparently discussed a nuclear strike against Germany in intercepted communications

welt.de/politik/ausland/article241830899/Ukraine-News-Russische-Armee-diskutierte-offenbar-Nuklearschlag-gegen-Deutschland.html

A few weeks before Vladimir Putin's attack on Ukraine, scenarios of a nuclear strike against Germany were probably discussed within the Russian army. As the "Spiegel" reports, citing security circles, Western intelligence services intercepted radio messages from the Russian Navy from a maneuver in the Baltic Sea at the end of last year. Accordingly, there was talk of nuclear strikes against Germany, with three targets being named: Berlin, the US Air Base in Ramstein and the Bรผchel Air Base, where the US Army stores nuclear bombs. ....

Erm.....imagine PF without me!!!!
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
29 Oct 2022 #113
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11361499/Russia-setting-second-line-troops-line-SHOOT-fleeing-combat.html

Pressure from Ukraine in the south west is gaining a lot of ground and will force Orc's to flee or die on the spot over the next few days. More Orc's are closer to encirclement and will have little choice in what comes next in these next few days. Die, or surrender. Kherson is about to fall. Happy gulag biatches!
cms neuf - | 1,947
29 Oct 2022 #114
The tactic of murdering your own retreating soldiers was used at Stalingrad so no wonder the Soviet obsessed Russian army is thinking of using it again - I don't think it is going to go down well on the Instagram age though !
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
29 Oct 2022 #115
@cms neuf
The Wagner group has already built their version of a Maginot line. Using concrete barriers and trenches to hopefully slow Ukraines advance. And they think that 19th and 20th century war tactics are going to save them on a modern battlefield with long range weapons, and modern tanks that can easily break through those lines. This is an example and exercise in idiocy.
Korvinus 1 | 436
29 Oct 2022 #116
Interesting thread about wagners dead. Heaps of them dying near Bakhmut, not all prisoners, theyre sending plenty of regulars to the meatgrinder too, a lot of them Chechenya veterans

twitter.com/solarisveritas/status/1582209700749529088

Very nice to see russians dying wholesale

Their staff is dying too.
twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1586275543506456579
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
29 Oct 2022 #117
Russian pu$$ies are backing out of grain deal now because the Black Sea fleet was targeted by drones. They are calling it a terrorist attack! LMFAO terrorist attack? The whole Orc nation is a terrorist state, the invasion of Ukraine is a terrorist act. Or is it an act of god now since they are now saying it is a fight against satanists? Hard to keep up with the Orc bull$hit machine these days. When you cant beat them with brilliance, baffle them with bull$hit is the Orc way.

Meanwhile, dozens of Orc's are getting liquidated needlessly in Ukraine. The action to surround more of them just southwest of Kherson is continuing. Hope all those mommies of the 300K men pulled up for cannon fodder duty are ready to pump out more babies, because the population decline is going straight down. Happy gulag biatches!
Crnogorac3 2 | 704
29 Oct 2022 #118
๐Ÿ‘

๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ The special forces of the "๐Ÿ…พ๏ธ" with an accurate shot destroyed a pickup truck with Polish mercenaries

t.me/intelslava/40100
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,584
29 Oct 2022 #119
[url=twitter.com/TonyMasiuk/status/1586277076092719106/photo/1][/url]

Rumor is that a kill squad is in Moscow looking for Putin and they are from Montenegro.
Crnogorac3 2 | 704
29 Oct 2022 #120
Their staff is dying too.

t.me/trupvsy/7829

t.me/trupvsy/7833

32 officers of the Ukrainian army were killed in four days.

t.me/trupvsy/7850


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