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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4


OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #961
Thank you for stating the obvious, European Parliament...

My comment about European Parliament would include words that are not fit to print.
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #962
RT is nicer. Quoting:

EU Parliament 'a sponsor of idiocy' - Moscow
The Russian foreign ministry was responding to the assembly labelling the country a 'sponsor of terrorism'


...and some readers' comments...

Nicely put. Europe is a puppet of the US, which is the largest terror organization in the world, just look at its history of global interference in nations, threats, exploitation, destruction, violence, and mass murder. Being a US puppet makes the EU a terror organization as well. Just look at its history of joining the US in its atrocities around the world.

Last time I checked, the EU has supported Kiev in inflicting terror on the Donbas for over 8 years with over 14000 fatal victims.

A 'non-binding resolution' from the European Parliament is like being savaged by a dead sheep.

"The European Parliament, which on Wednesday adopted a non-binding resolution branding Russia a "state sponsor of terrorism", should be designated a "sponsor of idiocy," Well said ! The EU is a hopeless corrupt bunch...


...of a-holes who don't speak English well enough to know that war and terrorism are two different things.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #963
Once again, the timing of all the Putinazi supporters being on PF at the same time is uncanny. Do you all break from your worship of little Vlad at a prearranged time so you can waste time defending your little biatch together? Pathetic mental midgets.

400 million more in draw down aid, for those who do not read the news, and the UK sending more Brimstone and Brimstone2 missiles. In the 400 million draw down are hundreds of generators. As little biatch Vlad bombs civilian infrastructure, which is absolutely a war crime, power will be restored to most areas. Lviv is back up and running already.

More Ukraine soldiers are heading to the fight after nearly two months of training, while the Orc's remain at the front with no sleeping bags or other appropriate winter gear. That sound you just heard was an Orc finger falling off from frostbite. On a positive note for the Orc's, it is being reported that Lavrov himself has found a stash of Charmin toilet paper and he is selling it for one million rubles per roll. Business is said to be $hitty. Happy gulag biatches!
Lenka 3 | 2,895
24 Nov 2022 #964
of a-holes who don't speak English well enough to know that war and terrorism are two different things.

How about special operation?
cms neuf - | 1,951
24 Nov 2022 #965
I see murderer Putin is lining up a public meeting with the parents of conscripts - but of course these will all be actors or people bused in, so as TV it will be something like you see in North Korea
mafketis 35 | 11,226
24 Nov 2022 #966
but of course these will all be actors

security agents... he has a dedicated team to pretend to be other people for publicity purposes...

putain is a filthy coward and russians worship the guy...

nasty, inferior country
johnny reb 38 | 7,753
24 Nov 2022 #967
nasty, inferior country

I bet the nasty Russian people say he same thing about the nasty Polish people, oh wait, you aren't Polish are you.
cms neuf - | 1,951
24 Nov 2022 #968
Yes they do say that about Poland - and in fact many times in the last year their politicians have expressed their desire to invade or bomb Poland and the Baltics
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #969
a-holes who don't speak English well enough to know that war and terrorism are two different things

You mean like the Russia POS who declared the successful attack on the bridge in Crimea an act of "terrorism"? Those a-holes? Or the a-holes who call it a "special military operation" when it is really a war? Or the a-holes who are deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure in an effort to defeat a nation defending itself and beating the opposition? You mean those POS Russian a-holes?

Turkey now sending their version of HIMARS to Ukraine. Combined with their drones a lot of Orc's will be turned into slurry. Funny how none of the Orc supporters are talking about how they are getting destroyed on the battlefield isn't it? Lots of tough talk from killing women and children yet none when they have to confront men.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,404
24 Nov 2022 #970
I bet the nasty Russian people say he same thing about the nasty Polish people

For sure. Russian independent sources say that 85% of Russians support the little nasty Vlad and his "special military operation" and believe the Ukrainians should basically be annihilated as facist. The brain washing performed by Putin's regime on the Russian population over all these years has been truly effective.

Supporting the invasion of Ukraine means they would do the same if Putin or whoever in Russia were to invade Poland or, for example, the Baltic states. The Poles would have quickly be portrayed as facists and American puppets (if they are not yet considered as such) and the majority of Russia's population would have swallowed this without any hesitation or thought. The myth about the evil Russian government and the good Russian people is just that ... a myth!

JR, you are completely deluded about the situation in Russia and the mentality of the Russians when sitting safely in Michigan or wherever you may be in the United States. Russia has the mentality of serfs mingled with the mentality of being a world superpower. A very dangerous mixture which may explode at one time or another with deplorable consequences to the world. And if you think maybe of appeasing Vlad Putain, think first of attempts to appease Adolf Hitler by the Allies, notably the UK, and the results it had brought. Finally, it was not possible for America to hide behind the curtain of her "splendid isolation".
Velund 1 | 550
24 Nov 2022 #971
I bet the nasty Russian people say he same thing about the nasty Polish people

Most Russians still feel the difference between the bulk of Poles, more or less normal, though brainwashed almost like Ukrainians today, and the "neo-schlachta", who have an explosive mixture of the polished over 3 centuries idea of Polish hegemony in Eastern Europe and the habit of almost unquestioning obedience to Anglo-Saxon masters. ;) As they joke, a Polish politician can only enjoy power by knowing the pleasure of a well-circumcised Anglo-Saxon cock sliding gently over his tongue. ;)
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #972
@Velund
Funny how Russians joke about Anglo cocks when so many of their own were forced into other Russian men, Ukrainian women and children. But now, Russia knows what its like when the US sends just a few of its war toys and that fvcking is being experienced every day by every Orc in the field. Poles don't GAF what Russians think of them, there is a universal dislike of Russians by 95% of Poles. The best Russian is a dead one really. Then we dont have to listen to any more stupid analogies or sayings.
mafketis 35 | 11,226
24 Nov 2022 #973
putain humiliated by Armenia which refused to sign final declaration at CSTO meeting....

twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1595720663427334144

history caught on film...
Velund 1 | 550
24 Nov 2022 #974
The best Russian is a dead one really.

We will take your opinion into account when the fate of Polish statehood will be discussed at the new meeting that will determine the rules of the new world order after the obviously ended Yalta era.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #975
@Velund
Is that the same meeting where the splitting up of Russia into independent states will take place? The one after Russia collapses? Because that is a lot more likely than anything happening to Poland from Russia. Your leader is so afraid of NATO and the US that he see's ghosts where there are none. The paranoia culture in Russia is really quite amazing and it would keep psychiatrists busy for decades trying to get to the root of things. Then again, what Russia would tell the truth when being spoken to since the rest of the culture is based on lies.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,404
24 Nov 2022 #976
Russian people had generally been perceived rather positively in Poland prior to the invasion of Ukraine on the 24th of February 2022. This invasion has changed everything, I'm afraid. For those who want to learn something new on Russia, there have been published a lot of informative articles in Polish socialm media on the Russian mentality plus the true nature of the Putin regime in Russia written by the Russian intellectuals: scholars, writers and so on. There had been many books of theirs translated into Polish, but books are for people who are deeply interested in the subject while articles are likely to be more widely read being much shorter forms.

I cannot say there was any general dislike for Russia or Russian people in Poland prior to this "special military operation" declared by Vlad Putain on Ukraine. This has been a game changer for everybody. And even Germany with its unequivocal love for Russia has been compelled to revise its stance.

3 centuries idea of Polish hegemony in Eastern Europe and the habit of almost unquestioning obedience to Anglo-Saxon masters

Notice the Russian imperial tone in this statement shown by the fact one sees bi-lateral relations through "obedience".

enjoy power by knowing the pleasure of a well-circumcised Anglo-Saxon cock sliding gently over his tongue

Even more of imperial tone in this statement. Here it is the term "enjoying power" on top of "obedience" connected to a sexual act described in a vulgar way. All this revealing that true character and aim of Russia which is the hegemony and enslavemnent of the Eastern and Central European nations.
jon357 71 | 20,038
24 Nov 2022 #977
They found the toe-rag who was filming the soldiers in Warsaw and was trying to provoke them. A far-right American from the west coast. The same guy who was holding a placard saying "suck six million dıcks" at Auschwitz a couple of months ago.

He's apparently now in custody.

I cannot say there was any general dislike for Russia ...... in Poland prior to this "special military operation"

I can. In 30 years I've hardly heard a good word here about r*SSia, and plenty of bad ones.

that true character and aim of Russia

Violence and oppression.
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #978
This invasion has changed everything, I'm afraid.

Because Poles are girlie men and morons who can't think - only feel.
Newsflash...No Russian ever got up in the morning, had breakfast, and said to his wife, hon I am going to invade Ukraine today so don't wait with dinner.

They were sent there! Duh!

So, skip the bs and ask yourself if that Z-P was worth dying for and why you didn't volunteer.

BTW, you are afraid of what?
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #979
... inferior country...

Yeah, especially their fighter planes.

1. Mig-31, 3035 km/h, Russia
2. Mig-25, 3000 km/h, Russia
3. J-15, 2940 km/h, China
4. SU-37, 2870 km/h, Russia
5. Mig 1.42, 2760 km/h, Russia
6. J-20, 2700 km/h, China
7. F-15, 2655 km/h, USA
8. SU-57, 2600 km/h, Russia
9. Mig 35, 2560 km/h, Russia
10. F-22, 2500 km/h, USA
Ziemowit 14 | 4,404
24 Nov 2022 #980
I've hardly heard a good word here about r*SSia, and plenty of bad ones.

You talk abour Russia where I said "Russian people". People were generally under the spell of this myth of the Russians being good people as opposed to Russia as a kind of totalitarian state.
jon357 71 | 20,038
24 Nov 2022 #981
You talk abour Russia where I said "Russian people".

The quote from you mentioned r*SSia in black and white as well as r*SSians. You very clearly mentioned both.

Poland has of course a diversity of views; the most common is perhaps that people hate r*SSia but don't hate r*SSian people. Others say both, some say neither.

There are 'pan-Slavist' cranks here in PL, however there are far more who oppose that view.

r*SSia does have some cultural achievements like kitsch art, semi-pornographic anorexic ballet and syrupy music that only works with a huge orc orchestra; most of that tacky art gets some exposure in Europe however Poland is notable for being probably the country in this region of the world that most roundly ignores it.

People were generally under the spell of this myth of the Russians being good people

This is true. There was this myth and Poles are not unique in being under that spell. r*SSia is an 'everyone for themselves' culture. There are elements of that in Poland (I'vm saddened the fascination with the vile r*SSian cvnt 'Ayn Rand' here - even the little Empik in pl.Wilsona sells gold-embossed presentation volumes of her trashy works) however there is in Poland also a bigh level of human decency, of communitarianism as well as selfishness, altruism as well as greed. Something largely absent in r*SSia.
mafketis 35 | 11,226
24 Nov 2022 #982
especially their fighter planes.

daddy still doesn't care about you.... and daddy is inferior...
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #983
@Novichok
You know what all of those Russian planes have in common? Every fvcking one of them in Ukraine is getting shot down by US weapons. The Orc's after 9 months dont even control the skies in Ukraine with all that superior flying power. All those high speed engines are doing in Ukraine is bringing them in contact with earth in a fireball much more quickly. And thus Russia remains the best nation on the planet at dying! Still number one! Congratulations!
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #984
You know what all of those Russian planes have in common? Every fvcking one of them in Ukraine is getting shot down by US weapons.

So would the "democratic" planes but does not change the list I just posted and makes the claims that Russia is "inferior" idiotic. Every country is "inferior" in one way or another.

The same with tanks; they - both Russian and "democratic" - are relicts. Now we know that modern wars are won by destroying civilian life support systems, not by attacking hard targets, which is what I have been saying here from the very beginning because the "world" is 51% women and 25% girlie men. Crying or dead kids end wars. Or start...
Tacitus 2 | 1,626
24 Nov 2022 #985
Every fvcking one of them in Ukraine is getting shot down by US weapons

Mind you only the ones that are not busy crashing into Russian residential buildings... .
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #986
...as opposed to the "democratic" planes that never crash. You are so well-informed. Thanks.
johnny reb 38 | 7,753
24 Nov 2022 #987
Germany is rethinking it's foreign policy, it has now vowed to move away from its dependence on China for trade, after being burned by overreliance on Russia for gas.

This will strengthen Europe's independence as a force to become a super power.
OP Novichok 3 | 6,865
24 Nov 2022 #988
This will strengthen Europe's independence as a force to become a super power.

...that will not have the US on speed dial under Save Our Asses. S for short...
Their only problem will be to find the enemy that would justify taking money away from the Ministry of Happiness. Today, we are doing it for them.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,590
24 Nov 2022 #989
@Tacitus
You make a great point and I stand corrected.

@Novichok
Speed is only an asset in getting to contact point more quickly or retreating. It is not an asset in close contact dog fighting when they are not at top speed. The Italians build fast cars too and not many win races anymore. Like the Russian planes, Italian cars often break down, are expensive to fix, and parts can be hard to find. All that speed means little to nothing. Inferior is the Russian way of life, way of thinking, and ability to adapt to a changing world. This is why they will eventually sink to the level of some African countries if they continue this style of governance. The natural resource customers are making contracts with new suppliers and they wont be coming back. Putin blew his wad and has nothing to show for it. Brilliant.
johnny reb 38 | 7,753
24 Nov 2022 #990
Berlin made it clear on Thursday that the Patriot air defense units it offered to Poland are intended for use on NATO territory, countering demands by Warsaw for the system to be sent to Ukraine.

"These Patriots are part of NATO's integrated air defense, meaning they are intended to be deployed on NATO territory," German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht said in Berlin.

"Any use outside NATO territory would require prior discussions with NATO and the allies," she added.
Can she make it any clearer than that ?


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