Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

It does. But you'd have to read it in order to realise that :)


Link?

If Ukraine actually seriously threatens Crimea (which is debatable as it might just end up in bloody stalemate) it'll start with a couple of tactical nuclear strikes in Ukraine, then the US will obliberate the black fleet and russian positions in ukraine. Then it will be up to the russians on how to respond, but why hit warsaw when you can hit USA? As it will lead to the same response from NATO? So ure in the same boat as the europeans buddy, only us kangaroos and kiwis are safe.

I did. It does not. I want a simple before-after comparison we all can identify with, not some arbitrary composite numbers on an arbitrary scale. For example, after Russia took over, Ukrainians were not allowed to teach. Or vote. Or leave the country. Or had to pay higher taxes. Are you catching it or am I too fast?

If any of that were facts, you would be screaming about them from the rooftops. You are all silent because if anything life in Crimea has improved for all of its citizens - Ukrainians included.

Warsaw and NATO bases on eastern european soil will get their share of Iskanders or Daggers with nuke warheads. Decision making centers and strategic production facilities in US will get Avangards. One will not exclude another.

If that is true, then Americans are even stupider than stereotypes suggest. :):):)


Your forgot to tell us what Moscow and St Peter will get. hahahaha

Now I know why Russians put anti air missile systems on their rooftops. Oh sancta naivetas! If they think it will save them from Western retaliation, they are even stupider than American rednecks. hahaha

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That share being zero since even Putler and his hopeless 'generals' know very well indeed is that firing a nuclear warhead would be the poorest and most foolish decision that any r*SSian in a position of authority has made since that country was originally founded.

It would be the end of r*SSia.

Dear children, we will now learn the proper use of bad, good, and very.

2014 revolution - very good
2014 referendum - very bad
NATO expansion - very good
Russia response to it - very bad
Zelensky - very good
Putin - very bad
US in Iraq - very good
Russia in Ukraine - very bad

That's all you need to know about how to use these words and modern history.

If one accepts that russians has been influenced for centuries by authoritarian asiatic tendencies, then the concept of harakiri and kamakaze will be a lot less foreign to them, than to western civilisations..

Moscow will get first real life test of Nudol with nuclear warhead missile interceptors. That's for sure. Nobody promise its 100% efficiency. So, we are always ready to losses, since start of Cold War. Be assured, everything is ready for decent revenge.

But remember that Siberian Taiga is much better place for post-apocalypsis survival than deserts of Nevada and New Mexico. If Mexico will not claim it back at the right time. And modeling show that there will be not so much agriculture lands available to grow food in Poland during nearest 10 half-decay periods of 137Cs...

You are amassing. Like a child who dreams of blowing up real tanks with a toy gun bought at a country fair. hahahahaha


Don`t be silly. You have no systems which can intercept missiles moving in space at hypersonic speeds coz it is beyond your capabilities. If you mess up with the West, there will be no Russia - neither big nor small after defragmentarisation., hahahaha

Russia kaputt!!! Do you understand it?? hahahaha

If that's all Russia has, why don't you - in the spirit of Warsaw Uprising, all brave a ready to take risks for a noble cause - go to U and beat the crap out of them.

@pawian
Air defense systems have been placed all over the major cities to make people think there is a possibility of attack. To make the public believe there is a risk when their is none from Ukraine.

@Velund
LMFAO you mean your defective and unproven air defense systems? The ones that only exist in your dreams? Maybe the ones that actually are in the US and proven to work will be more than enough. Half the Orc missiles will likely not even launch or they will go up and then come immediately back down upon Russia doing the job for everyone else themselves. Then the aids infected survivors will rule what remains of Russia until they all die from aids and nuclear radiation. With little Vlad dancing in red square as he brings on the complete end of Russia. That is the perfect ending for a little $hit bag dictator like Vlad.

We said it many times - Ukrainians fight, we help. They have to go through that Purgatory on their own coz it was them who partly contributed to that situation. They could strive to access NATO and the EU like Poland did in 1990s. But they didn`t coz Eastern Ukrainians viewed the West with suspicion and prefered Russia. Now they are changing their opinions quickly when they see what Russians are capable of and what "Russian Order" means in practice, not theory.

Sooner or later Ukraine will join Western institutions. Polish soldiers don`t have to die in this war because even if Russia conquers the whole or large part of Ukraine which is highly impossible, but let`s suppose it does, Russians will have to withdraw soon anyway coz the Western sanctions will crush them completely within a few years.

Simple as that - Russians have no choice anyway - they have already lost no matter how long the war will last.

YES,I wonder if I can find my 40 some years old Aussie PR and if I can renew it and have a choice of going back then getting toasted by nukes

I am not aware of such a "simple before-after comparison" (or, at least, simple enough for you lol) being available on-line, but even from that link that I provided you can deduce what changed for Ukrainians in Crimea for worse - some of them were deported, Ukrainian political parties were banned, etc. Even without reading it, just by knowing what laws are there in RuSSia, you should be able to realise that Ukrainians in Crimea are not allowed to protest against RuSSian annexation of Crimea, against the RuSSian invasion of Ukraine, inform publicly about war crimes committed by RuSSian army in Ukraine, etc.


I didn't write it though - that's johnny_reb's claim, so who knows if it's true - he haven't provided any link yet ;)

He thinks that's great! So....... yeah.... lost cause.

He still hasn't answered my question about why russian rule over a country that doesn't want it is worth the lives of 125,000 (and counting!) russians....

Because you are cowards. Even defending Poland is left up to the US.


There will never be any such info on the internet because it would reveal the total idiocy of dying for and helping Z stay in power.

If you knew how life got worse after Russia took Crimea, you wouldn't shut up about it except when you are asleep,

I never said "that's great". I said that life in Crimea for all is no worse, if not actually better. If there was any evidence that it got worse, Western outlets would have a field day with it. They are silent on this subject. Guess why...

Because you all know damn well that Z-P=0 or less than 0.

I didn't write that such simple comparison doesn't exist. I only wrote that I personally don't know about any. It may shock or surprise you, but I'm not spending my whole days on looking information on the internet in order to answer your questions lol

And even if there's no such simple comparison available you can still, as I wrote already, deduce
(if you have a working brain, that is lol) what changed for worse for Ukrainians in Crimea as far as their freedoms are concerned from the information that is available on the internet, including in that link that I provided.


What a load of bullcrap. People have other things to do in life and won't be spending their lives on informing you 24/7 about "how life got worse after Russia took Crimea" o_O


No, because we're not Ukrainians and we aren't in any formal alliance with Ukraine. As for US - Poles were fighting for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan (because we are in a formal alliance with the US).

We don't have to look for information. It's shoved down our throats by the lying Western media day in day out. Anything negative about Russia makes it to the front page and anything positive is blacked out. With Ukraine - the exact opposite.

Just yesterday, ABC had a story about civilian death attributed to Russia. Not a word about this:

Civilians killed in another Ukrainian HIMARS strike - governor


Bullsh*it. You, Poles, are legally free to go to U and kill all the Russians you can. Just don't say we are NATO and we are here to help.

The reason why the Polish army hasn't done it yet is that they are cowards or on the American leash.

Do you mean that those are "Western lies"? :):

washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/18/six-years-20-billion-russian-investment-later-crimeans-are-happy-with-russian-annexation/

Surprisingly, a year later a non-Western media source paints a different picture:

aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/21/the-devastating-human-economic-costs-of-crimeas-annexation


And some do go.


No, the Polish army hasn't done it, because they didn't get an order to do so. Active duty soldiers can't just go to any country and kill soldiers of any country they want. They even have to ask for permission if they just want to go abroad.

From yahoo.com:

(Reuters) - Ukraine needs new weapons and faster deliveries to confront a "very tough" situation of constant attacks by Russian forces in the eastern Donetsk region, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Sunday.

"The situation is very tough. Bakhmut, Vuhledar and other sectors in Donetsk region -- there are constant Russian attacks. There are constant attempts to break through our defences," Zelenskiy said in his nightly video address.

Z is lying. Russia was out of ammo in May last year.

A reader's comment:

As part of the 42% of the population that pays taxes, I cannot afford more bills. European nations should be doing the heavy lifting and not the US.

My comment: Screw you, weasels, it's your war. Deal with it. We have no dog in this fight. Only useful idiots.

Yes, I know, I quoted him from your post to save me time. :)

yeah you did

why is russian rule worth 125,000 russian lives?

how many russians have to die before you accept that russian rule is not worth it?

Quoting Sun:

RUSSIA is massing at least 200,000 soldiers for a massive new assault on Ukraine, Nato's top official has warned.

Nato secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg grimly said there is "no sign" that Vladimir Putin is "preparing for peace".

Hey, stupid, Putin was "preparing for peace" in April last year but the US swamp didn't like the idea because "peace" is lousy as a moneymaker.

Till he _lost_!!!!!! What's it like on the losing side of loserdom, loser?

No, genius, till he was told that the April conference was canceled by the US swamp.

Let me know when Z has C, D, and L back.

Foreign soldier on the Ukrainian side says that fighting in Donbass is hard because most of the population is with the Russians and they constantly leak their positions.

Should make you question wtf you're fighting for when the population supports the enemy, no???

twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1620044459995172865

This is how it was in 2014

This is how the war in Ukraine started.

11 May 2014,residents of Mariupol opposed the anti-Russian rhetoric of the CIA installed coup government in Kiev....

twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1620035231066750978

Putin can have peace any time he wants - all he needs to do is to withdraw his troops from Ukraine :)))