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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

Novichok 4 | 7,299
23 Oct 2022 #1

Mutiny in Putin's ranks? Conscripts drafted into Ukraine war 'threaten to topple Russian regime over spluttering invasion'

The message: Hey, Putin, quit all that nice crap and finish the damn thing off - the way the Americans didn't in Vietnam and had their asses delivered to them because they were soft.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,229
23 Oct 2022 #2
The problem is Putin cannot finish it off. Its already over and Russia has lost. Drop a nuke? Then say goodby to the Black Sea fleet. There is no win anywhere for the Orcs. As for negotiations, they have no standing to request negotiations with a sovereign nation over their sovereign lands. Thats pretty simple any Fing Russian can understand that. The problem is little Putin has a Napoleon complex. He thinks he is hard and he is just another POS running a POS country. He will be dead and the world will pi$$ on his grave in history. Ukraine will be rebuilt and the world will move on.

China will continue to China. North Korea will starve itself to death. China is only a threat to Taiwan and Russia. North Korea is the biggest threat to itself.

But hey, the Americans killed a lot of children in Nam and Afghanistan, so lets compare the Orc's to them. Brilliant justifications for an illegal invasion that was unprovoked. Lets forget that Afghanistan and Iraq were at least provoked.
mafketis 35 | 10,658
23 Oct 2022 #3
utin, quit all that nice crap and finish the damn thing off

Like this? With paintball masks and children's gloves?

russia can't finish anything because putain's russia is a kleptocracy (people get power and influence through theft) plagued by negative selection at all levels (the competent are weeded out of any organization as a potential threat to those in charge)

now because of the rampant corruption and poor use of human capital (like driving hundreds of thousands of young men out of the country) it's stuck... it's not like russia is holding back they really can't do any more than they are

pathetic, and all because putain thought russia should matter more than it does....
johnny reb 46 | 7,076
23 Oct 2022 #4
Radio Free Europe quote:
"We see movements in Belarus that prove that some of the mobilized soldiers are being sent or are going to be sent to fight in Ukraine through the territory of Belarus," Nauseda said, according to the report. "This is clear evidence that Belarus is fully involved in this war. That means, it becomes responsible just like Russia for the consequences of this war."
johnny reb 46 | 7,076
23 Oct 2022 #5
(Now if we could only get your mouth to disappear.)

Elite US unit ready to fight in Ukraine if conflict 'escalates' - CBS
The U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division has been deployed to Europe for the first time in almost 80 years amid soaring tension between Russia and the American-led NATO military alliance.

The light infantry unit nicknamed the "Screaming Eagles," is trained to deploy on any battlefield in the world within hours, ready to fight.
The sabers keep rattling louder every day.
What a way to kick start the world's economy with Americans blood. :-/
mafketis 35 | 10,658
23 Oct 2022 #6
you are saying it to sick more attention

he sulks every time I insult his man crush...
Paulina 16 | 4,031
23 Oct 2022 #7
Like this? With paintball masks and children's gloves?

The mobilised from the Tver region got ASG "bulletproof vests" from their governor/authorities... 🤦 They kept their sense of humour at least - someone in the back is asking "Who knows, maybe they shoot from ASG guns in Ukraine?" ;D:

Btw, check out the teeth of the guy in the backround in that video... OMG... 👀
Paulina 16 | 4,031
23 Oct 2022 #8
Another military jet crashed into a residential building in RuSSia, this time in Irkutsk (I discussed with one guy living there):

Officials said the jet was on a test flight. I wonder what they were testing? Flying into civillian buildings? Must be some sort of kamikaze tactic... 🤔
cms neuf 1 | 1,838
23 Oct 2022 #9
The equipment these guys have is hilarious. I love the current talking point that the Russians have some crack troops in reserve who can go and finish the job.

Russian docile idiots cannot accept that all of their tax roubles have been stolen for years and that this army is the best they have.

Looking forward to Kherson being back in Ukie hands soon and hopefully the start of trials for the collaborators.
Paulina 16 | 4,031
23 Oct 2022 #10
OMG, I've remembered something when I read that fragment from the article about firefighters putting out the fire after the crash... During our discussions we were told by a Russian guy (a pro-Putin one at that) living in Moscow that when there was a fire in Moscow the firefighters, after putting out a fire in a block of flats, would steal people's belongings from those flats that caught fire... Can you imagine... 🚒 I don't know if it's still happening, but it left me speechless at that time...

So, if firefighters were stealing from their own people, is it that surprising that RuSSian soldiers steal from Ukrainians? Not really, I guess...
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,229
24 Oct 2022 #11
Now the Orc's want to claim Ukraine will try to use a dirty bomb? This is how low the Orc nation has fallen? Try to use a dirty nuke when Ukraine has no nukes? Pitiful is what Orc nation is now. You cant even call this $hit $how of a country Mordor. At least in that imaginary series Morder served a purpose. Someone please, once again tell me what the Orc nation supplies that the rest of the world cannot live without? Rhetorical question. We already know the answer.

Kherson though may soon become a rout. All the officers and trained soldiers have been pulled from the city and only the newest recruits and cannon fodder remain to get slaughtered. What happens when Ukraine has Kherson again? Fresh water to Crimea gets gut off. Since the Orc's want to attack civilian water supply in Ukraine, the water supply in Crimea will be the first target setting the stage for people living there to continue to evacuate. When the missiles start falling in Crimea, Putin had better be in a safe place because the lynch mob will be looking for him.
mafketis 35 | 10,658
24 Oct 2022 #12
Another day, another dose of genocidal rhetoric from the increasingly nazi-like russian propaganda machine...

todays highlight.... Ukrainians are just spiritual transvestite russians.... (it's chock full of crazy - one doesn't live in russian reality and not go crazy apparently)

but the US did something bad at sometime or other so russia committing genocide in Ukraine is perfectly acceptable....
Velund 1 | 742
24 Oct 2022 #13
Officials said the jet was on a test flight. I wonder what they were testing?

This was comissioning test flight for a new plane, as per regulations. Got a swarm of migrating birds info engine turbines, had no time to react and not enough height yet to maneuver. Pilots dies in a crash.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,354
24 Oct 2022 #14
Iranian drones used by Russia in Ukraine are slow, loud and fly at low altitudes, which makes the Ukrainian defense more effective in neutralizing them ", the British Ministry of Defense reported on Monday. According to data from the Ukrainian army, about 85 percent of Iranian drones have been shot down so far.
Tacitus 2 | 1,520
24 Oct 2022 #15
Also on a hopeful note, plans are already being made the reconstruction of Ukraine. No doubt Kiev can look forward to a lot financial aid, including structural funds once it joins the EU.

Apparantly there have already been talks between Ukrainian officials and a German company that specializes in reconstructing old buildings (and which got a lot if practice in the dormer GDR) which will no doubt put those funds to good use. After all, Russia intents to wipe out Ukraine's history and historical buildings are a part of this.
cms neuf 1 | 1,838
24 Oct 2022 #16
They will get EU funds but most of the reconstruction will be done by Russian prisoners and the money will also come from Russians, either from frozen assets or from placing their oil companies under adult supervision
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,229
24 Oct 2022 #17
@cms neuf
All those fantastic Oligarch ill-gotten gains and all those billions in Russian reserves around the world will go a long way. Then it will be cheap price-controlled oil. All of it because little old Vlad had a Napolean complex and a delusion that he was Peter the Great.

On a positive note an Orc pilot was liquidated without pulling a trigger.
Crnogorac3 3 | 962
24 Oct 2022 #18

2022.10.23 NATO Is Cocking Its Fist
Crnogorac3 3 | 962
24 Oct 2022 #19


OP Novichok 4 | 7,299
24 Oct 2022 #20
2022.10.23 NATO Is Cocking Its Fist

"For Russians, it's existential".
PF morons: ...but do they have the right? And those babies...boohoo...
Tacitus 2 | 1,520
24 Oct 2022 #21
Invading Poland was alao existential for Hitler.
mafketis 35 | 10,658
24 Oct 2022 #22
"For Russians, it's existential".

oh boo hoo! poor little russkies afraid of everyone invading them (while they're invading other countries)

It wasn't an existential question for russia at all to any rational observer... but it is now... putain's mad, imperial ambitions have destroyed russia's economy and future.... russia has no path to victory.... only to defeat....
Crnogorac3 3 | 962
24 Oct 2022 #23

2022.10.24 The Americans Are Evil
OP Novichok 4 | 7,299
24 Oct 2022 #24
Yes, you have a good justification to defend yourself if you feel your life is in danger.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,229
24 Oct 2022 #25
Leftard Fvcks want Biden to negotiate directly with Russia concerning Ukraine. This is exactly why no more Fing leftards should be in the White House or Congress. WTF are these idiots thinking. The US has no standing to negotiate for Ukraine like Russia has no standing to annex Ukraine territory. WTF is wrong with people? How Fing stupid can they be? I am embarrassed for the USA. Fing embarrassed.
cms neuf 1 | 1,838
24 Oct 2022 #26
Well I suppose Biden could negotiate with Iran as they are now the ones pulling the strings in Moscow
pawian 213 | 22,211
24 Oct 2022 #27
I am embarrassed for the USA. Fing embarrassed.

Relax. Currently the US is seriously involved in helping Ukraine, thanks to President Biden the Great. I didn`t hear of any pressure on negotiations, that must be fake news, check it again. It is the Reps who pose the biggest danger coz those dogs will be RuSSists` best friends.
AntV 6 | 599
24 Oct 2022 #28

What do you base your opinion that Republicans will be best friends with Russia?

The overwhelming majority of Republicans have voted for aid to Ukraine. Some have questioned the cash allotments to the ukrainian government, but support sending arms to ukraine.


Yeah, good question: what standing do we have to negotiate directly. We could facilitate negotiations though.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,866
24 Oct 2022 #29
The overwhelming majority of Republicans have voted for aid to Ukraine.

Something else would had wondered me Europe most pro-Putin forces are so inclined because of an inherent anti-americanism, for them Russia is some sort of "hope" or counter weight to an imagined US domination and Ukraine a small sacrifice in a global game for huge's hard to believe the US Repubs supporting that world view! :)

(Of course the hope for cheap energy was the bait for others....)
pawian 213 | 22,211
24 Oct 2022 #30
The overwhelming majority of Republicans have voted for aid to Ukraine

You mean humanitarian aid worth a few million bucks?? Yes, I know about it.
However, you are mature enough to know that Ukrainians need aid on a much larger scale.

support sending arms to ukraine.

All of them??? Reps are divided into two factions: Trumpists who are proRuSSist and traditional cons who aren`t. Which faction will prevail?? It is a riddle right now.

So, do you understand my doubts about Reps? And do you realise your defence of them is a bit stretched?

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