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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3


OP amiga500 3 | 1,420
19 Jul 2022 #151
Sitting in a Qantas lounge today, at a shared civilian/military airport. Saw 2 F-35s doin their take off runs. Cant wait till 50 of them are over Ukraine. Not even a contest against the latest Sukhois. Game over
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,536
19 Jul 2022 #152
themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/19/300-north-caucasus-soldiers-refuse-ukraine-deployment-activists-a78338

Soldiers refusing to return to Ukraine after being pretty much left for dead and getting frostbite last time they were deployed. Such an army. So awesome to see how mighty Russia is today.
mafketis 34 | 12,243
19 Jul 2022 #153
What would you say if I found another insane story out of russia?

"No! No more! We can't TAKE IT!!!!!!"

I know, I know, but hear me out....

I guy puts this on his car

***
*****

Now he's going to face trial for "discrediting the russian army"

Apparently the police have decided that the asterisks stand for

NET
BOUHE
(niet
wojnie)
"No to war"

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1549139895762944007

russian cultural and social inferiority marches on....
Crnogorac3 3 | 1,543
19 Jul 2022 #154
russian cultural and social inferiority marches on....

Nothing can match the rapid hamerican deterioration of society as well as "western values"

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1548846356860747776

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1548830149961027584

t.me/demacre/18858
Novichok 3 | 7,602
19 Jul 2022 #155
Well at least he has been fighting on the front lines

Are you guessing or do you have any evidence?
You see, foreign "volunteers" in Ukraine are not fighting "za ojczyzne" or to protect their loved ones. They go there to satisfy their own personal need to feel good by killing people that did them no harm - clearly a mental disorder for which there is only one cure: an execution.
Alien 11 | 1,652
19 Jul 2022 #156
@Novichok
Foreign volunteers in Ukraine are not fighting "za ojczyzne" but they are fighting "za wolnosc nasza i wasza", like for example Poles always did.
gregy741 5 | 1,696
19 Jul 2022 #157
Poland garbage crab howitzer exploded by itself. now the blaming each other begins.
no wonder ,even poland dont want it. buying korean howitzers .
lol. there was so much noise about this trash being wonder weapon. didnt take long
twitter.com/wolski_jaros/status/1549135479962046467?t=7AG7MJTrMaQsKCiKKrUZfA&s=19
Novichok 3 | 7,602
19 Jul 2022 #158
but they are fighting "za wolnosc nasza i wasza", like for example Poles always did.

I am so proud. But there is a price to pay when the locals catch them. Just like they did in Ukraine with this moron...

A British man, who fought alongside the infamous Neo-Nazi 'Azov' regiment in Mariupol,...

...who is now begging the UK government to save his ass. As far as I know, the idiot did not ask his government if it is smart to go on a Ukrainian safari to kill people.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,536
19 Jul 2022 #159
Meanwhile, in the real war, not the one with gays as imagined by so many here, the Turkish company making the Baykar drones that are successfully killing so many Russians, vowed to never sell to Russia. At the same time Putin is in Iran learning that Iran does not have the capacity to produce hundreds of drones for them because they are also under sanctions from the rest of the world. Kind of like going to the Sahara to buy a gin and tonic. Not likely to be successful. Brilliant minds involved in those talks.
johnny reb 36 | 7,478
19 Jul 2022 #160
Putin is in Iran learning that Iran does not have the capacity to produce hundreds of drones

No, but they do have the capacity to produce nukes.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,536
19 Jul 2022 #161
@johnny reb
The do not, and Russia needs no help producing nukes. Iran wants to, but they dont have the technology, and Russia does not have the technology to give them. When you are converting ground to air missiles to be used as ground to ground missiles, you are in deep $hit with your missile resources. Russia is a beggar on the world stage now.
pawian 190 | 19,211
19 Jul 2022 #162
crab howitzer

Don`t be silly. Polish Crabs are praised by Ukrainians as the best long range artillery pieces they acquired from the West. Only US HIMARS are better when it comes to hitting distant targets.
mafketis 34 | 12,243
19 Jul 2022 #163
For those still thinking "russia stronk! sanctions dont' hurt mighty russia!" some news from the real world

personal bankruptcies for the first half of 2022 are up 37 percent over 2021

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1549440339492179970

Also... putain looks might sick in this picture (taken in Turkey?) let's hope he's in a lot of pain...

twitter.com/SupremeDmt/status/1549407657009844229/photo/1
pawian 190 | 19,211
19 Jul 2022 #164
sanctions dont' hurt mighty russia!"

Yes, these are RuSSist delusions. Santions were never meant to cause RuSSia`s defeat within one week. They are long term, designed to slowly erode RuSSian economy. Day by day, week by week, it is being degraded into late Soviet era inefficient economy when Soviet soldiers didn`t have military boots but wore sneakers instead. I am talking about 1991, the time of the putsch.

In the meantime, an alleged transport of more Polish tanks:

Poland will soon transfer 232 PT-91 "Twardy" tanks

youtu.be/xyFIZSzag1M
Novichok 3 | 7,602
19 Jul 2022 #165
it is being degraded into late Soviet era inefficient economy

...that the Western "democracies" didn't dare...when there was something very real at stake...Like the "occupation" of Eastern Europe.
Paulina 13 | 3,573
19 Jul 2022 #166
Poland garbage crab howitzer exploded by itself. now the blaming each other begins.

Could you post that "blaming" coming from the Ukrainian side?
One Polish expert stated that Krab was destroyed due to crew error, which I think is possible since Krab, from what I understand, is a pretty high-end military technology, it's fairly complicated and training to use it properly, as with anything more complicated, takes time. There's a war going on in Ukraine, so it's possible that the training was hasty, that the crew wasn't trained well enough, that there was no time for them to practice enough or that someone under the stress of fighting simply made a mistake. Accidents can happen even during military training or exercises (and it happens that soldiers will die even), let alone during war. So take it easy.

even poland dont want it. buying korean howitzers .

Firstly, we don't know that yet - it doesn't seem to be confirmed information (?). Secondly, Poland is giving and selling and producing Krabs for Ukraine, which are produced at one factory in Stalowa Wola (which produces also other stuff). I imagine that factory, as any factory, has a limited capacity for producing stuff and since the Polish government is hoarding weaponry due to the Russian aggression on Ukraine and Błaszczak said that Poland wants to get as much military stuff as fast as possible, then it's possible that they're thinking about getting howitzers elsewhere. Also, Ukrainians probably already know Polish Krabs by now (more or less, at least), while Polish soldiers would have the luxury of training in peace on those Korean howitzers.

Some info on Poland's hoarding:

defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/nadchodzi-niszczyciel-czolgow-kolejne-zakupy-mon-news-defence24
Crnogorac3 3 | 1,543
19 Jul 2022 #167
Rahmetli Polish Krab

t.me/denazi_UA/15486
Paulina 13 | 3,573
19 Jul 2022 #168
@Crnogorac3, "media is too big".

It's funny that you guys get so excited about one Krab getting destroyed lol

Ukrainian gunners wipe out two Russian Howitzers in HUGE explosion:

youtu.be/AVQSrJPEnMM
gregy741 5 | 1,696
19 Jul 2022 #169
It's funny that you guys get so excited about one Krab getting destroyed lol

its not about one howitzer getting destroyed. its about this so called modern weapon burned crew alive from backfire.
how on earth backfire energy ended inside crew area? even in 60 years old t-60 such thing would not happen?
and dont blame crew. such thing should never happen. its design error.
Paulina 13 | 3,573
19 Jul 2022 #170
@gregy741, the crew wasn't harmed.

and dont blame crew.

I am not blaming anyone lol Your expert is. I'm actually excusing the crew.

how on earth backfire energy ended inside crew area?

From what I can see in that link you posted that's just one of the theories of that Polish expert.

Ukrainians said that Krab was destroyed by Russians.

Some guy on YouTube claims that according to some/his (?) "sources" Krab drove on a mine and the crew used explosives to blow it up in order to render it useless for Russians:

youtu.be/oT-4OlpMRAs
johnny reb 36 | 7,478
19 Jul 2022 #171
Since Russia invaded Ukraine, the EU has approved bans on Russian coal and most oil to take effect later this year but did not include natural gas because the 27-nation bloc depends on it to power factories, generate electricity and heat homes.

So much for sanctions.
Now, it fears that Putin will cut off gas anyway to try to wreak economic and political havoc in Europe this winter.
Looks like fat Polish women may be in high demand and short supply this winter. :-)
Velund 1 | 1,116
20 Jul 2022 #172
high demand

Soft warmers for the whole body without excessive complexes in the head have always been in demand and in short supply. But this crisis will give a chance even to those who have hordes of Madagascar cockroaches and moats with crocodiles in their brains. :)
Novichok 3 | 7,602
20 Jul 2022 #173
A quote from dailymail.com:

White House says Russia is planning to annex MORE of Ukraine by installing more proxy officials, making the ruble currency and forcing residents to apply for citizenship

This is really strange considering that Russia is losing so badly to the Ukrainian army and Western volunteers.

Now a comment for a little humor...

I donate directly to zelenskys offshore bank accounts since the money is all going there anyway.

Suckers...

Today, children, we will learn the proper use of "lying Western bastards". Here we go...

The lying Western bastards claim that the war started in February 2022 but hide the fact that...

...Russia, Germany, and France brokered the 2015 Minsk agreements between Ukraine and Donbass, which were designed to put an end to hostilities. But according to Lavrov, Berlin and Paris failed to ensure Kiev's compliance.

The Russian foreign minister noted that former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko admitted the Minsk agreements meant nothing for Kiev, and Ukraine used them only to buy time.


The highlighted part is a quote.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,986
20 Jul 2022 #174
But according to Lavrov, Berlin and Paris failed to ensure Kiev's compliance.

What did they expect? Our armies invading? Ukraine our vassal???

I would like to know the background of this....did the Ukraine really give up their territory???
Kashub1410 4 | 222
20 Jul 2022 #175
@Bratwurst Boy
Cause their morons thinking that their system/mentality works the same elsewhere as with them, especially Ukraine. (Top to bottom orders&direction)

They are trying to broker with Germans, French, Americans cause they view Ukraine to be their "puppet".

Little do they know that Ukraine stands on it's own, taking every help they can get.

Until Russia starts seriously consider Ukraine to be an independant sovereign state and not a puppet of "Soros, Clintons, Biden bla, bla, bla, bla" they might achieve something.

We are able to influence someone to certain degrees, every person is an individual however, and acting as if Ukraine has no individuals only strengthens their resolve and reminds them of their past under the Russian boot
Novichok 3 | 7,602
20 Jul 2022 #176
What did they expect?

Good point and a reason why the Western "democracies" should mind their own damn business and feel lucky they are not in another world war.

No, Russia is not planning to make Belgium part of the Russian Federation.

a puppet

Someone who takes orders from and relies on the puppet master. Ukraine is a puppet. Russia is not.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,986
20 Jul 2022 #177
....soon they will be!

As a now-self-made-enemy of the West there is only one side left for Russia....CHINA!

And these guys despise everything not Han-Chinese....Russians will become great boot lickers and super puppets in a way the West would/could never demand. Say "Thank you Putin"!
Paulina 13 | 3,573
20 Jul 2022 #178
@Kashub1410, great post! (#176)

Cause their morons thinking that their system/mentality works the same elsewhere as with them, especially Ukraine.

Yup.

Until Russia starts seriously consider Ukraine to be an independant sovereign state and not a puppet of "Soros, Clintons, Biden bla, bla, bla, bla"

Spot on!
mafketis 34 | 12,243
20 Jul 2022 #179
Russia is not planning to make Belgium part of the Russian Federation.

Lisbon, however.....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1511242040918609928
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,536
20 Jul 2022 #180
Either Medvedev has lost his mind, or Putin and Medvedev have lost their minds. This is almost a declaration of war on Europe. If Putin would say this, I would say we should just go and destroy what army in in Ukraine now and get it over with. He doesnt have the man power or equipment to fight everyone now.


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