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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,652
26 Jan 2022 #211
Tell me why the U.S. taxpayers should be paying for all of this "foreign aid"

Seriously J.R. I believe that will be the first proxy battle in the big upcoming war of the West against China!

As you already wrote Russia and China are getting closer, Putin looking for help and China is always eager to get their claws into Europe, one way or the other.

Ukraine is a pretence...behind that are much bigger fish to fry....Europe aka Ukraine is the first drawn line where the West will make a stand!

Not paying for that now will prove desastreous for the american taxpayer later on....when all allies are gone the US alone will be easy prey.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 2,002
26 Jan 2022 #212
@johnny reb
Russia's financial transfer system does have quite a few banks. All within Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Germany, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Switzerland, Turkey and Iran. Now the Swiss are not going to do anything to **** off the rest of the EU or USA. Germany is not going to do any business even with access to the system. The rest can do nothing much to help Russia.

Without access to the USD, Euro and Pound, Russia has nothing but liquids that no one can buy in any volume that would prop up their own currency and economy. Wealth will be in farm land and those who can produce for themselves and their families. Cut them off, and starve them out.

No one will take the Rubble. The currency is already in the toilet. Russia is painting themselves into a corner. This is a typical ego move by a typical tyrant controlling one country. Wanting to create his legacy before he dies. He may well gain back some of the former USSR territories only to have them slip away again after he is gone.
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #213
As far as I am concerned, Euros and Russia can go to hell. Just do drag the US into another Eurodrama.
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
26 Jan 2022 #214
More European drama that is costing the U.S. economy.
In many ways it appears that Putin is playing chess, while the West is playing checkers, such as NATO moving troops to Eastern Europe while leaving Ukraine exposed.

Russia only has designs on eastern Ukraine and our assessment is that Russia has the non-dollar reserves, power over EU energy flows, popular support in Russia and firepower to accomplish their goal of a USSR-style buffer zone separating them from the West.

I wonder how much longer Purin can rattle his sword and still be taken seriously.
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #215
He wants to make sure that the snake aka NATO will not swallow Ukraine - Russia's kitchen door. My prediction: he will go for the 196x Cuba-Turkey kind of trade.

In the meantime, let's enjoy this...

youtu.be/n4IIN5lsoes

...and the comments. Especially about Russian women.

BTW, I didn't notice any transgenders. How can they have an effective army without LGBTs?
Crow 153 | 10,520
26 Jan 2022 #216
Some say LGBT soldiers better jump and move legs.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,652
26 Jan 2022 #217
Nobody beat the Wehrmacht parades! Bestest goose step and uniforms EVER! :)

....till others armies later....
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,070
26 Jan 2022 #218
More European drama that is costing the U.S. economy.

Look You can't have a cake and eat it at the same time. USA created global domination and need to act accordingly. Why people living in the most powerful country in the world are cluless? Do you think that USA does it for free? The small issue how you in the USA divide your loot is not my problem. If your people swiddle you, take this up with them.
Joker 2 | 2,324
26 Jan 2022 #219
Some say LGBT soldiers better jump and move legs.

You must be so proud of Ana Brnabic then.

What is that thing?
Vlad1234 18 | 1,203
26 Jan 2022 #220
The truth is that Ukrainians must prove if they possess enough determination and sacrifice to defend their country`s

They could, but is it always worth of it?

How can they have an effective army without LGBTs?

LGBT soldiers could be very efficient in some cases indeed. For example when you need to make speak some captured soldier or officer as soon as possible.
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #221
They could, but is it always worth of it?

As a Pole, the descendant of all Poles who used to fight in wars, risings, conflicts etc to secure the independence of the country, I have to say that it is. And even when it isn`t, there is still honour for which you can fight. :):) Didn`t you hear about one of the Polish mottos?: God, Honour, Fatherland.

However, Ukrainians will do as they feel - it is their choice.
Miloslaw 13 | 4,071
26 Jan 2022 #222
However, Ukrainians will do as they feel

They will and I believe they will give the Russians a very bloody nose.
But I still think Putin is playing Poker and bluffing.
Russia has too much to lose.
Invasion would be an insane suicidal act by Russia.
I find it hard to believe that Putin is stupid enough to invade.
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #223
I find it hard to believe that Putin is stupid enough to invade.

You can be right but don`t forget that Russians, like most Slavs, are able to act irrationally against all reason. The Western fascination with Russian literature which started in 19th century - Dostoevski, for example - was based on certain characters who seem normal but suddenly behave like crazy and nobody knows why. hahahahaha
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
26 Jan 2022 #224
Do you think that USA does it for free?

No, the U.S. tax payers pick up the $50 Billion plus a year for foreign aid.
At this point in time Putin has to kiss China's ass.
Chinese leader Xi Jinping would be very unhappy with Putin if he invaded Ukraine during the Winter Olympics in Beijing next month.
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #225
Russians, like most Slavs, are able to act irrationally against all reason.

...as opposed to the brilliant French and Germans in 1812 and 1941.
BTW, few things are sweeter than a Frenchman and a German frozen do death in Russia while their buddies are banging some chicks back in Paris.
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #226
the U.S. tax payers pick up the $50 Billion plus a year for foreign aid.

And at the same time they earn three times as much through contracts with countries where America is present. :):)

as opposed to the brilliant Germans in 1941.

I detect irony in your words but it is missed. It is obvious you know little about how Soviets charged German lines during WW2.
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #227
And at the same time they earn three times as much through contracts

If that is so profitable, why not Poland? You are free to offer foreign aid and collect on those "contracts", too.
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #228
If that is so profitable, why not Poland?

Coz Poland doesn`t produce F-16 or F-35 fighters. Or Abram tanks. Or Patriot systems. etc All of them have been already bought or are planned to be purchased for the Polish army.
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #229
I detect irony in your words but it is missed

Hey, we are discussing YOUR subject of Russian irrationality. Put up or shut up. In the meantime, what about those rational French and Germans? That was pretty stupid, wasn't it?

Coz Poland doesn`t produce F-16 or F-35 fighters.

Why not? Little Sweden makes pretty damn good fighters. Are Poles too stupid to design a fighter plane or a tank?

Being a slippery snake, you switched from foreign aid JR mentioned to selling planes.
Poland can have a foreign aid program and profit triple from the contracts, can it?

It's like dealing with retarded kids...So listen up, ...Foreign aid comes from the taxpayers. Profits from contracts go straight to the swamp. Swamp does not pay taxes. Taxpayers are fu*cked. Did you get it?

Yes, darling, there are two Americas: A1, the one that pays and bleeds, and A2, the one that collects and laughs on the way to make deposits. Next time, specify which one you are referring to, A1 or A2.

The diversion was yours when you, without a medical degree, decided to psychoanalyze the Soviets. The only psychosis I saw was Polish in 1939 and 1944. The a-holes almost cost me my life because they decided to outsmart the Soviet army, hahahahahahaha...Fortunately, the Germans were nicer and they took me to safety in Hamburg. They fed me, too. No, I didn't get anything from AK.
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #230
psychoanalyze the Soviets

Talking about their irrationality? But it is a common fact which you can learn through proper studies. You are angry now coz I alluded to your ignorance on the topic. :):) Don`t be - errare humanum est. hahaha

No, I didn't get anything from AK.

yes, you did. The trauma which has been haunting you till today. hahahaha
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #231
yes, you did. The trauma...

...of realizing that under some conditions Germans can be my friends and AK my mortal enemy. Weird, isn't it?
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
26 Jan 2022 #232
Germans can be my friends

Nazi Germans, darling. :):) I hope you didn`t forget to thank them for their kindness to you. hahahaha
It is really time to say goodnight.



johnny reb 32 | 6,762
26 Jan 2022 #233
Next time, specify which one you are referring to, A1 or A2.

Thank you for your post, Rich, as it saved me the time of doing it.
I wonder if it sunk in ?
What I think we should do to solve the problem is to invite Russia to join N.A.T.O. :-)
Novichok 3 | 6,515
26 Jan 2022 #234
I hope you didn`t forget to thank them for their kindness to you.

I would if I knew where they are now - especially those who shared their food and blankets with us. Oops, they are all dead...Sorry, too late.
johnny reb 32 | 6,762
27 Jan 2022 #235
China has thrown its considerable political weight behind Russia in Putin's standoff with Ukraine, describing NATO as outdated and calling on the West to consider Moscow's "legitimate security concerns."

Isn't that special !
Novichok 3 | 6,515
27 Jan 2022 #236
From eata.ee/en/nato-2/nato-member-states/

The member states of NATO are:

Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States.

Why would Russia be so damn paranoid?

BTW, China has no "allies". Russia has no "allies". Why does the US need "allies"? Especially Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania...Hmm... Let me guess.
I got it! It must be their proximity to Taiwan. Those paranoid Ruskis...

From news.usni.org/2022/01/26/140-russian-navy-warships-drilling-across-europe-middle-east-as-ukraine-tensions-simmer

140 Russian Navy Warships Drilling Across Europe, Middle East as Ukraine Tensions Simmer

More than 140 warships and support vessels, along with 60 aircraft and a total of 10,000 personnel, will participate in the drills, according to the Russian MoD.

But the exercises have sparked alarm within Western nations in light of tensions over Ukraine.


Unnamed sources report that a package with chill pills will be sent to Kremlin in an attempt to convince Russian authorities that NATO's presence in the Baltics is a gesture of friendship and that Russian troops and medium-range rockets will be welcome in Cuba, Nicaragua, and Mexico.
mafketis 34 | 11,561
27 Jan 2022 #237
NATO's presence in the Baltics

Horrible, horrible NATO forcing it's presence on the poor, down-trodden Baltics who love Russia so much they were even a part of the USSR for decades. For decades the peoples of the Baltic (if they knew what was good for them) praised the benevolent leadership of the USSR....

What possible threat could Russia ever pose to Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia... it's not like they've ever been occupied and absorbed into a Russian-controlled political entity or anything....
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,652
27 Jan 2022 #238
Russia is Chinas entry into Europe....that doesn't bode well!
OP pawian 187 | 17,485
27 Jan 2022 #239
Yesterday, the Polish Parliament tried to adopt a unanimous declaration of solidarity with Ukraine threatened with the Russian invasion. The declaration wasn`t passed coz one party refused to join - nationalist/far right Konfederacja. They are known to be Kremlin stooges and 5th column in Poland. If Russia attacked and occupied Poland, they would be the first to create the puppet government. Tfu!
mafketis 34 | 11,561
27 Jan 2022 #240
Konfederacja. ... If Russia attacked and occupied Poland, they would be the first to create the puppet government.

Traitors, pure and simple. Neo-soviets who must be kept far from power.


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