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Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist?


jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #151
There's something in that - certainly it's in the interest of PiS to keep people poor and impoverish others. Happy and prosperous people don't vote for extreme parties.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
19 May 2016 #152
what their justification is for this

Weren't you amongst those who grumbled about how 500+ would strain the poor state budget? Now you are shedding crocodile tearts over cutbacks. Make up your mind. You can't have it both ways. Either you support social spending or you don't. Looks like yet another excuse for today's round of PiS-bashing. Somethign like the Jews who are said to believe: "If you don't cheat a goy early on, it's a wasted day". Lower case's paraphrase seems to be: "The only good day is a PiS-bashing day!"
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #153
500+ would strain the poor state budget

Which they're now trying to fund by taking it from the very organisations that support poor families.

Spectacularly stupid, to fund poor families having even more kids by removing the support structures which exist precisely because of poor families with kids.

Somethign like the Jews who are said to believe: "If you don't cheat a goy early on, it's a wasted day"

Oh dear...
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
19 May 2016 #154
Stalinist judge

Don't forfget his mum, fanatical Stalinist Helena Michnik, a sovietiser of Polish school children. She wrote textbooks that glowingly praised all things Soviet including Stalin's occupation of Poland.
Harry
19 May 2016 #155
Meanwhile, we remember how PiS have given 20 million złoty to Rydzyk.

26 million actually. So far.

the Jews who are said to believe: "If you don't cheat a goy early on, it's a wasted day".

Said by whom exactly? Other than vile racist failures of course.
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #157
And it looks like Macierewicz's insanity has been criticised from overseas once again:

"It would be expensive and it would be provocative and frankly I can't quite get [understand] this government in Poland," said McAdams

//sputniknews.com/russia/20160519/1039857139/poland-russia-nato-america-nukes.html
mafketis 29 | 9,513
19 May 2016 #158
I hate him because he played a key role in securing the safe landing for high level commies after the fall of PRL

Let's play compare! Compare how much time he spent in communist jails vs how much time you spent in communist jails.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
19 May 2016 #159
He wasn't. In fact, he spent a considerable amount of time being arrested, beaten up and imprisoned for his opposition to the state.

He did - then he switched sides during Solidarnosc and willingly collaborated with the Commies and continues to write pro-Israel, pro-Commie, anti-Polish garbage. He continued to sell Poland out to western interests in the CFR.

d. Diaspora Jews tend to be a different matter as they play a significant role in pushing liberal madness, multi cult etc. upon both Europe and America.

True - Jewish lobby and Jew groups are the ones who have been pushing pro-gay, pro-immigrant propoganda and influencing politicians. Michnik is no different - he is writing anti-Polish crap but not a word of criticism for Israel. Even in his interview he said that Poles were responsible for Jewish deaths during WW2 - but said that Israel killing Palestinians in Gaza is 'nonsense'

: "If you don't cheat a goy early on, it's a wasted day".

That's what a good portion of the Talmud is about - killing goys, cheating goys, calling goy women abominations, saying Christ is boiling in excrement, and loads of other supremacist racist laws. Usury of goys takes on a religion connotation for Talmud reading Jews - that is FACT.
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #160
Let's play compare! Compare how much time he spent in communist jails vs how much time you spent in communist jails.

A very good point.

Interesting that almost all of his detractors here are thousands of miles away and always, but always, those pond-dwellers rant at some point about ethnicity.
Ironside 50 | 11,260
19 May 2016 #161
Let's play compare!

Lets! You are not Polish, you don't remember life under communism in Poland. You are not a Polish citizen. So how dare you to tell Poles whom they should respect or what they should think about Michnik?

A very good point.

Absolutely terrible remark. Nothing could further from the truth! such childish line of rezoning leads to nothing else that pointless mud slinging.
There is no academic or logical basis that stays that you need to have a special qualification to talk about specific issues or express your opinion about public figures.

That is anti-democratic, anti-free speech society and precisely that attitude practically stifle all debate and renders all talk redundant, there is only my camp your camp mentality and that state of things suits progressives to the core as they flourish in wishful thinking theoretical gibberish if unopposed but they always are loosing argument if logic and hard facts are applied.

They tend to exclude people who disagree with them or to muzzle them by a slander or belittling tactic.
Those low methods of ideological lunatics undermine all those values that the western civilization is build upon.

but always, those pond-dwellers rant at some point about ethnicity.

Well, there is nothing interesting about it. Just a human nature. You somehow doesn't berate yourself or Harry with your little hobby of starting threads about Polish criminals and their crimes in the UK.

Why would you focus on criminals with Polish ethnicity? If you are interested in crimes so much, you could have and should have to write about crimes committed in Poland.

Sure, Harry and you are allowed do that with impunity but others are (according to you) just a vile racist and bigots. Yeah, tell me more ....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
19 May 2016 #162
There is no academic or logical basis that stays that you need to have a special qualification to talk about specific issues or express your opinion about public figures.

Strange. Weren't you the one that refused to accept Professor Gross as a historian because he didn't have a qualification in history?

It always goes back to ethnicity, doesn't it? There must be something about tin foil hats that instantly makes someone rant about Jews online.

He did - then he switched sides during Solidarnosc and willingly collaborated with the Commies

Nice try, but while your family were feasting with SB men, he was spending a lot of time in solitary confinement.

I know who the real hero is here.
Ironside 50 | 11,260
19 May 2016 #163
Strange. Weren't you the one that refused to accept Professor Gross as a historian because he didn't have a qualification in history?

No, I said that on the top of not having formal qualifications in history his book is lacking all the necessary strappings of scientific kind.

It always goes back to ethnicity, doesn't it? There

You haven't explained yourself and you haven't apologized for your racism and racist stereotyping of Poles.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
19 May 2016 #164
Nice try, but while your family were feasting with SB men, he was spending a lot of time in solitary confinement.

Actually, that makes me happy. It's too bad they didn't get rid of him then and there. They would've been doing the future generations of Poland and the world a favor.

It always goes back to ethnicity, doesn't it? There must be something about tin foil hats that instantly makes someone rant about Jews online.

It's because Zionists, like Michnik, have such a devastating effect on the common citizens. Zionists and Israel really are responsible for the majority of the west's wars - and this isn't coming from me this is coming from a statement from a CIA Director/Chief (youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE)

Whether it's pushing a one world global culture and selling out Poland's sovereignty to the CFR, usurping Poles by controlling their banks according to the laws and rules of the Talmud on treatment of goys, it does come back to Zionists because they have so much control within European, North American - and now increasingly LATAM - finance, politics, and media. Poland is no exception - look at all the different Zionists in Poland who have changed their names (especially after 1968) to sound less Jewish. It's unfortunate that these people can't take a hint - we don't want you - we kicked you out once, twice, yet you still keep coming back.. it's like a rodent or termintes on your porch. Over 100 towns, cities, and countries kicked the Jews out and many like King Albert II put an 'eternal ban' on them yet they can't take the hint and still insist on coming back - and the worst thing is they've come back with a vengeance and now control the societys' media, politics, and finance which they gained through subversion, usury, and manipulation. Even Winnie Churchill was very vocal on this topic because he saw how the Jews were destroying Russia, Hungary, etc. and how the Bolshevik Revolution was entirely a Jewish creation. He wrote about this in his essays Bolshevism Vs Zionism.

From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. - Winston Churchill

I know who the real hero is here.

That's fine call Michnik a hero... at least he's old and Poles won't have to listen to his anti-Polish, pro-Israel garbage much longer. People like Michnik who write anti-Polish garbage are the reason why PiS has to clean up all the traitors in media.
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #165
Adam Michnik is one of the better Poles in public life; a true hero.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
19 May 2016 #166
Adam Michnik is one of the better Poles in public life

Except he's more Jewish than a 10% coupon for matzoh.. he hates Poland and Polish society... he says we're responsible for Jewish deaths during WW2 because we didn't get to 'know our neighbors'
whocares
19 May 2016 #167
Most Jews are Internationalist and Left wing socially. And thats the problem.
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #168
he hates Poland and Polish society

In your opinion. Others would point out that the reverse is true.

It is very hard to find anyone with his commitment to Poland and all that is best here.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
19 May 2016 #169
It is very hard to find anyone with his commitment to Poland and all that is best here.

He repeatedly criticizes Poland... that is not a Polish patriot... Of course he'll NEVER criticize Israel though..
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
19 May 2016 #170
Let's play compare! Compare how much time he spent in communist jails vs how much time you spent in communist jails.

Pathetic. Grow up.
jon357 67 | 16,831
19 May 2016 #171
He repeatedly criticizes Poland... that is not a Polish patriot..

Don't be silly. Jaroslaw Kaczynski, Macierewicz et al have made careers from criticising everything they dislike in Poland and its statesmen yet you would doubtless call them patriots...

The highly respected former dissident, Adam Michnik is right to criticise that which is wrong; this is one of the signs of a true patriot.
Ironside 50 | 11,260
19 May 2016 #172
Don't be silly

You are being silly. Did you at least read wiki about Macierwicz anti-communist activities? Comparing to him Michnik is just nobody and his activities at least suspicions. He gained eminence by working in accord with the commie secret police in 1989 in the name of the nation to which he had no mandate.

After that he became such a big figure he never was in opposition.
By the way Maciarewicz was longer in prison than him.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Michnik#Opposition
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Macierewicz#Anti-communist_activities
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
19 May 2016 #173
He repeatedly criticizes Poland... that is not a Polish patriot

You do realise that PiS spent 8 years (and counting, they're still doing it) criticising and insulting Poland?

Still, glad to see that you also admit that they aren't patriots.

By the way, if there was no mandate Ironside, why did the Kaczyński twins legitimise what happened by working under Wałęsa? Ah, that's right, hypocrisy!
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
19 May 2016 #174
You do realise that PiS spent 8 years (and counting, they're still doing it) criticising and insulting Poland?

Childish nonsense as usual. There obviously is a difference between describing how the state institutions "worked" and giving interviews to foreign press saying that "Poland is full of xenophobia and anti-semitism" which "Adaś" did again and again. He's an enemy within.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
19 May 2016 #175
As per usual with you, you're conveniently ignoring the part where PiS called for the destruction of the Republic repeatedly and constantly, while also mouthing off to anyone that would listen about how Poland was a mess and being destroyed.

Just typical double standards - it's OK for PiS to criticise and insult Poland and Poles, but if that damned Michnik says anything, then he's an enemy!!!!11

Perhaps instead of crying about what he says, it might be better to realise that he has a point.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 May 2016 #176
Said by whom exactly?

Ask any Jew. Actually it goes more like: "If you haven't cheated a goy by noon, it's a wasted day!"
Since you are known for your knee-jerk lunge each time any whiff of Jewry appears, one wonders at your reluctance to answer one simple question: R U 1 2?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,845
20 May 2016 #177
R U 1 2?

shut up you disgusting old man - you and your buddies are turning this place into a hate site.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 May 2016 #178
damned Michnik

Michnik is not only the mouthpiece but also the spiritus movens of the commie-oligarch post-roundtable clique in the service of foreign interest groups. His goal is to create a nondescript, commericlaised, cosmopolitan Poland according to the designs of his ethnic soulmates Soros, Kissinger, paedophile Cohen-Bandit (misspelling intended), Sachs, Balcerowicz with the Lehman Brorthers probably pulling strings somewhere in the background. The average Pole does not equate with that gang and has finally found an advocate and defedner in PiS who are speaking up for Poland's little guy, the Nowaks, Kowalskis, Wójcik, Wiśniewskis and Mazurs.

commitment to Poland and all that is best here

Spoken like a true LGBT operative! Unfortunately what you regard as "best" is not shared by the overwhelming majorty of the Polish nation.

criticising and insulting Poland?

No, they criticised the commie-turned-capitalis post-roundtable clique feathering their own next by serving foreign-interest groups. Criticising that is a bold, courageous and downright heroic act considering the Goliath they have taken on: the international EU-corporate mafia.

capitalist
smurf 39 | 1,981
20 May 2016 #179
Ah crap, I thought we'd get a day off from you and your bullsh!t

3 posts in a row on the same thread.
Ever heard of the edit button?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 May 2016 #180
your bullsh!t

You prefer Michnik style bukksh*t, I presume. Fair enough.The PC dictatorship still haven't muzzled free speech in Poland!


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