Jeez Louise people,
I thought we had made some progress in this discussion and in a couple of posts it's been knocked right back to the stone ages again.
Posts like this are what I'm talking about:
why are we trying to compare responsible, children loving moms with some thoughtless, irresponsible, party dolls
Are those really the only two alternatives you can imagine?
Open question:
If you believe abortion is "wrong" in some sense then please state how wrong it is and if you're doing nothing to prevent it. Why/why not?
I can't see how that is morally defensible, and never will.
That's your luxury but your inability to imagine a completely ********* situation and not wanting to bring another innocent person into that is something you should at least entertain. I think you should also consider that some people don't look at that form of life the same way you do, maybe they're not being immoral, they just don't understand things like you do and you don't understand things like they do.
Maybe people try to make the best decisions they can at the time and sometimes they just don't know any different. Maybe some people are just scared and they make some decisions out of fear, it doesn't mean they're immoral, it means they were afraid at the time and their judgment was off.
Open question:
What is "morally" defensible? Do you really want to go there?
The reason I ask is that you might be very surprised at how morally indefensible most people's lives are, including your own.
Buying stuff made from slave labour, is that morally defensible? Production facilities and mining operations are the places where much of our "stuff" comes from and people working there are treated...terribly, simply terribly. How can we buy anything made at such a cost to people's health and freedom?
Not taking care of your fellow brothers and sisters who have no home, is that morally defensible? Not helping to raise the children who either don't have parents or don't have good parents, is that morally defensible? How environmentally responsible are you? How much do you eat, more than you have to? You know there are starving people by the billions right?
Maybe some think it morally defensible not to bring a child into the world for whatever reasons they have. Maybe they're wrong but maybe they believe that have reasons, what makes you so sure your reasoning is right and theirs isn't?