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PiS - the first true Polish party in 100 years



Ironside 46 | 8,406    
20 Nov 2017  #31

Nice take on this all:
In English and Polish - just skip Polish part:
Tyrmant: Anne Applebaum and her crusade against Polish right:
youtube.com/watch?v=hzSndaIDkKY


NoToForeigners 7 | 862    
22 Nov 2017  #32

This is what leftards do with today's world.
nationalreview.com/article/451013/banana-peel-frightens-ole-miss-fraternity-retreat-canceled-mississippi

Us, Poles don't want that to happen to our country!!!
idem - | 134    
22 Nov 2017  #33

Tyrmant: Anne Applebaum and her crusade against Polish right:youtube.com/watch?v=hzSndaIDkKY

I think that she is mad like a wasp ( polish saying) ...her husband lost power and nice little income in Poland plus got involved in some unsavoury scandals

Then Hillary Clinton lost to Trump.....

So she can only write some snide articles to release her bitterness.....
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
23 Nov 2017  #34

Tyrmant: Anne Applebaum and her crusade against Polish right:

The problem with Tyrmand interviews on any Polish TV or radio stations is the amount of time wasted by the presenter translating what Tyrmand said and what he is saying. I know it's Polish media and some of the audience don't understand what is said, so need a translation, but I just think there should be a much quicker way to do it.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
23 Nov 2017  #35

think there should be a much quicker way to do it

Well, on TV they should do well with subtitles, I cannot to think about a way to do it on the radio.
cms 9 | 1,171    
23 Nov 2017  #36

Even on TV it would not work. The few people who care about it are too slow readers to cope with subtitles.
OP Ktos 13 | 391    
27 Nov 2017  #37

I really like you Ironside (really soft pee pee inside) for the you tube film on Anne Applebaum. Jews are very vicious in their attacks on Poland, those people have a mental disease that is incurable. Go the right! Rebirth of Poland. And to those equating Polish right with western right or jewish nationalism please don't. We did not kick out people from our country or gas them or burn them like the right wing western nationalists did.
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
27 Nov 2017  #38

Pis video on cultural enrichment and Merkel's burden

youtube.com/watch?v=gLBqB1d81KA
SigSauer 1 | 260    
28 Nov 2017  #39

There are only THREE legitimate refugee groups in Europe. Syrians, Iraqis, and Ukrainians. The rest of them from any other nation, must be repatriated immediately. They are economic migrants and not refugees, and therefore have no legitimate claim to asylum. How anyone could argue anything to the contrary is either from willful ignorance, or an intentional and deliberate agenda to destroy the social fabric and national identity of nations in Europe.

Furthermore, the international community who favor this policy, they consider people from both Afghanistan and Eritrea to be legitimate refugees. This is absurd, first and foremost with Afghanistan, since we are at war with them, why would we allow the enemy to settle in our countries borders? The next is Eritrea, who is not embroiled in an ongoing military conflict. These policies are set by people in Brussels with an agenda to serve. These people can easily be resettled in Kenya, Japan, South Korea, Brazil, Honduras, Argentina, Mexico, Vietnam, Equatorial Guinea, Namibia, or Sudan. Those countries should step up to the plate, it is not the job of Europe or America to fit the entirety of Northern Africa and the Middle East into its borders. Defending ones national identity is a legitimate and compelling reason to object to a MASS migration policy.
cms 9 | 1,171    
28 Nov 2017  #40

That might all be true but by the same logic, Poland is under no obligation to accept American economic migrants such as yourself.
SigSauer 1 | 260    
28 Nov 2017  #41

@cms

That is a ridiculous strawman argument as I've pointed out several times before. Mostly, because I'm marrying a Polish citizen, so that negates half of your argument. The other half has to do with being a highly skilled worker, with quite a bit of money to invest (buy property, invest in the economy), AND the fact that unlike you and the other British expats on here, I actually respect Polish culture, Polish people, and want to assimilate, not lecture Poles from my high horse . I like Poland BECAUSE of their policies and conservatism, not IN SPITE of it as you do.

Now that we have dispensed with your personal attack, we could get back to the topic which was brought up, and which you conveniently (or more likely intentionally) glossed over, which is that the vast majority of these people do not qualify as refugees who should be afforded asylum, and should therefore be repatriated to their host nation at the earliest possible date. The other point, is that any of the dozen or so nations I listed should also do their part to be 'multicultural,' since according to Merkel it is a blessing for countries to destroy their own national identity.
idem - | 134    
28 Nov 2017  #42

@SigSauer

It is not so simple task as they 'conveniently' lose their ID so how to identify them? It can be by various translators who can establish language these people speak...but again apparently some countries refuse to take them back....
OP Ktos 13 | 391    
29 Nov 2017  #43

What PiS did is to reverse the cycle of doom for Polish people. We were being completely exploited and on our knees before the westerners. This is a patriotic government and Polish patriots will do everything to keep it in power.

The two best moves so far were:

- taxing foreign companies (although, that is still unresolved)
-national courts reform

Taxing foreign companies ends Polish paradise for foreign scams, whereas reforms in courts will end EU corruption and getting its way in Poland
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
29 Nov 2017  #44

We were being completely exploited

Exactly

PiS has caught more old regime marxist pigs eating at the trough.

Who says we do not need court reform.

Polish justice minister expects more people will be detained in corruption probe

thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/337332,Polish-justice-minister-expects-more-people-will-be-detained-in-corruption-probe
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
29 Nov 2017  #45

Every time poles wanted to kick the commie UB prl era politicians out or Atleast expose them through lustration P.O. blocked it. Hopefully this time it'll be different although I doubt it. They'll get their Zionist globalist handlers to cry about rule of law and other bs
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
30 Nov 2017  #46

What saddens me is how stupid so many of the Polish people must be, to actually protest judicial reform. I get that commies and others who have benefited from the corrupt judiciary, want to fight reforms, but it's a shame that ordinary citizens are buying in to opposition party and leftist media lies about how PiS are attacking the constitution and attacking freedom. No, they're trying to clean up a corrupt system for crying out loud. They're trying to help ordinary people who might at some point have to deal with the courts. It was one of their promises if they got in to power and they are keeping it, or at least trying to.
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
30 Nov 2017  #47

What saddens me is how stupid so many of the Polish people must be, to actually protest judicial reform. I

about 20 per cent of all Polish people still support the opposition in spite of their record - of course some of those people are those who significantly lost by PiS gaining power - but there is also a big number of those brainwashed by various media who just hate PiS
dolnoslask 2 | 1,173    
30 Nov 2017  #48

Well lets just take a look at some Polish news today see what the terrible PiS party is doing.

Poland ready to step up aid to Africa: PM

Polish economy grew 4.9% in third quarter: stats office

Poland's ruling conservatives consolidate poll lead

'No room for anti-Semitism' in Poland: deputy PM

thenews.pl

Onwards and upwards.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,756    
3 Dec 2017  #49

Onwards and upwards.

I notice you failed to mention that 13 out of 14 generals nominated by Macierewicz were members of the PZPR.
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
3 Dec 2017  #50

Everyone who has decades of military experience would be a PZPR member. Big deal. That's what you had to do to get your career off the ground back then. It's what you did after 1990 to today which makes you a commie that should be hung like the famous picture of hanging MEP traitors implies or not.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,756    
3 Dec 2017  #51

Big deal.

It is a big deal for many of us. Many Polish people don't want ex-Communists running the armed forces.

Yo, Ironside. How do you feel about commies running the Polish armed forces?

It's what you did after 1990 which makes you a commie that should be hung like the famous picture of hanging MEP traitors implies or not.

So, you support hanging those PiS members that went to the American Senate to beg for action against Poland?
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
3 Dec 2017  #52

Yo, Ironside. How do you feel about commies running the Polish armed forces?

Since when have you been so against commies? Aren't you an avid fan of Gazeta Wyborcza? Weren't you quite keen on former president Komorowski?
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
3 Dec 2017  #53

@delphiandomine

I support hanging any traitor to Poland. Only honorable men and former military deserve to be shot by firing squad. Hanging for rats traitors and degenerates. Or Atleast imprisoning them if found guilty since I guess that's the more 'civilized' way of doing things.
OP Ktos 13 | 391    
4 Dec 2017  #54

@WielkiPolak

They are buying it because the media is largely in German hands. PiS is doing great job, but it has private, anti-Polish media against it, media like Onet.pl, Newsweek, Gazeta Wyborcza (not German but Jewish) and Fact. Some Polish media like WP and Polsat tied to Western agencies also run anti-PiS propaganda. TVN, an American tv (51% shares American owned) tops the list. No wonder Polish people have been fooled for so long. This is changing but next PiS must enact media reform to repolonise the media.
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
4 Dec 2017  #55

TVN, an American tv (51% shares American owned) tops the list.

Heh, I think TVN despised PiS even before they were majority American owned. This was a fairly recent deal if I remember correctly.

No wonder Polish people have been fooled for so long. This is changing but next PiS must enact media reform to repolonise the media.

It would be an idea, but could you imagine the uproar? 'PiS is trying to silence the media and free speech. They only want media that is praising them.' I think they could do it but would have to be careful how they do it. As you say, not allowing media in Poland to have foreign ownership would be a start, as they to do little else than just attacking the government, patriotism and Poland in general.
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
4 Dec 2017  #56

This is changing but next PiS must enact media reform to repolonise the media.@ Ktos

Don't forget the banks. 2/3 of capital in Polish banks is foreign - mostly German.

Poland needs to finally do a clean sweep and kick all the commies out, ban wyborcza, make Michnik a persona non grata, etc. Maybe the EU UN and other champaign socialists and caviar communists or whatever would be mad at Poland and PiS for a little but soon other far more important issues would come up and they'd forget all about Pl. PL isn't all that important on the world stage and the liberals are crying about what PL and V4 are doing to detract from their own failures. It's not like the EU, the Zionist media, Michnik type Polish Jews, etc will suddenly stop bad mouthing Poland and its conservative population. We should clean house, kick out all the commies, liberals, and esp the PO MEPs who voted to suspend PLs voting rights. We need to take control of our media and banks and make laws to NEVER allow foreigners to own the majority of Polish TV stations, banks, etc.
TheOther 5 | 3,017    
4 Dec 2017  #57

not allowing media in Poland to have foreign ownership would be a start

Don't forget the banks. 2/3 of capital in Polish banks is foreign - mostly German.

Why don't you go a step further and socialize each and every corporation in Poland then, since most of them are also in the hands of these "evil foreigners"? Just don't complain about that old commie stench afterwards...
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
4 Dec 2017  #58

It isn't about socialising everything. Just because the government wants most things in Poland to be Polish owned, doesn't mean that

a) Everything has to be owned by the state

and

b) Poland can't have some foreign ownership

I think the most important things in the country should be state owned. Personally I'd be more concerned if everything in the country was privatised and foreign owned, than if everything was state owned, as long as we have a good patriotic ruling government and not one working for foreign powers, as it was during communism. Of course the latter isn't great for any country either - there has to be some sort of a middle ground where some things are and remain run by the state, while others can be privatised and create some healthy competition.
TheOther 5 | 3,017    
5 Dec 2017  #59

I think the most important things in the country should be state owned.

That sounds a lot like China, to be honest. You would need some sort of government interference and control if you want to follow through with that idea. What would you do with the current owners in this case if they turn out to be foreigners?
Dirk diggler 5 | 1,421    
5 Dec 2017  #60

@TheOther

China Mexico russia saudi qatar and dozens of other countries have certain areas of thr economy owned by the state. Especially oil in opec countries

But yes no foreigner should own over 50% stake in any polish media outlet or bank




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