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PiS - the first true Polish party in 100 years



Ktos 13 | 391    
17 Nov 2017  #1

This is the party that repolonizes banks, businesses, taxes foreign businesses, and looks after Polish affairs. Proper Polish party.


mafketis 16 | 4,840    
17 Nov 2017  #2

And not the party that cr4ps all over the constitution and rule of law plunders the natural resources and replaces competence with party loyalty as a requirment for promotion?

Proper Polish party

Tha'ts the most polonophobic thing ever written here...
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
17 Nov 2017  #3

plunders the natural resources

hahahah - plunders natural resources omg you live in a parallel universe, man
jon357 70 | 12,793    
17 Nov 2017  #4

And not the party that cr4ps all over the constitution and rule of law plunders the natural resources and replaces competence with party loyalty as a requirment for promotion?

Basically yes. Putin's puppets.
Tacitus - | 158    
17 Nov 2017  #5

@jon357

Indeed, Putin could not have wished for a better pawn.
Wulkan - | 3,218    
18 Nov 2017  #6

Being Putin's puppet sounds like a complement when you compare it to Soros puppet.
NoToForeigners 7 | 862    
18 Nov 2017  #7

Yes!!! Finally we have govt that cares about Poles and about the MAJORITY first. Just like the democracy wants. Homos, Muslims and all other MINORITIES can cry us a river.
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
18 Nov 2017  #8

Puppets of Putin, really? You know Jaroslaw Kaczynski believes Putin is responsible for killing his brother right?
NoToForeigners 7 | 862    
18 Nov 2017  #9

PiS is removing Russian monuments yet a retarded leftist talks about connections with Russia loloo
peterweg 36 | 2,292    
18 Nov 2017  #10

PiS is socialist, that makes them leftist, surely?
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
18 Nov 2017  #11

Left and right means different things in different countries. Tell any media outlet in the US, England, Germany, France etc that PiS if left wing? They'd laugh at you.

PiS might have some socialist ideas fiscally, but socially they couldn't be much more right wing.
Tacitus - | 158    
18 Nov 2017  #12

Just like the democracy wants.

Democracy is not just the tyranny of the majority.

@WielkiPolak

Puppets of Putin, really

Yes, not intentionally of course. They are doing everything Putin could have asked for. PiS is undermining the EU; but more importantly, they are isolating Poland from its' allies.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
18 Nov 2017  #13

They are doing everything Putin could have asked for.

Do you think such a nonsense cooked by 'a think' tanks of the progressive /commies lately is going to work? Boo!
Do you see Putin behind every shrubbery? Time to consult a doctor.
The EU is being undermined by Germany and France,by their totalitarian elites. They should stop trying to subjugate Poland as their colony and to spread their own version of a totalitarian liberalism/ red commie crap.

Thy banksters in a guise of the EU and their stupid policy based on some unrealistic and not feasible plans concocted by some unelected pen pusher already bankrupted Greece.

Poland doesn't need enemies with such 'allies'.
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
18 Nov 2017  #14

. They are doing everything Putin could have asked for. PiS is undermining the EU; but more importantly, they are isolating Poland from its' allies

as far as I know it is Germany who built NordStream and are planning to build NordStream 2 in cooperation with Putin not Poland - how about that?
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
18 Nov 2017  #15

PiS is socialist, that makes them leftist, surely?

No, they are old left - workers rights and a state as a daddy.
Leftist don't give a crap about workers they look for oppressed minorities and they create them if need to be, or right of gays to marry, fighting Nazis i.e. all patriotic people or those who disagree with their ideology.
Tacitus - | 158    
18 Nov 2017  #16

@Ironside

Do you see Putin behind every shrubbery

Putin is not directly behind PiS but no doubt Russia is benefitting the most from the actions of the current government in the long term.

already bankrupted Greece.

Greece bankrupted itself, although this is not relevant to this discussion.

by their totalitarian elites

I am afraid that you are mistaking Poland and Hungary with France and Germany. Not that I would PiS totalitarian, but they have shown some authoritarian tendencies already. Luckily for the Polish people, the EU won't simply stand by and watch as Poland's rule of law is being undermined.
WielkiPolak 51 | 784    
18 Nov 2017  #17

Putin is not directly behind PiS but no doubt Russia is benefitting the most from the actions of the current government in the long term.

Unfortunately many countries dislike Poland, and just as it was in the Second World War, Poland must deal with the Germany on one side and Russia on the other.

The fact that the Russia and the EU does not get along right now, means that no matter what PiS does, one of them will be happy and the other will be unhappy. In this case Poland is fighting with the EU, so Russians are happy, but if they decided to be the EU's little lapdog then Germany would be happy and Russia would be unhappy. Either way one of them will be happy and the other will be unhappy, but Poland isn't doing this for Russia and they are also ensuring they build a strong relationship with the USA, in case Russia gets any ideas. This fact annoys Russia very much, so I wouldn't say they are completely happy with the current situation. Of course they would like the EU and NATO to fall apart, but I don't think actions taken by Poland will be the deciding factor in either of these two things.

Luckily for the Polish people, the EU won't simply stand by and watch as Poland's rule of law is being undermined.

Luckily for the Polish people the democratically elected government is fighting off a totalitarian unelected foreign power who wants to force its members to do everything it says.
NoToForeigners 7 | 862    
18 Nov 2017  #18

Democracy is not just the tyranny of the majority.

Tyranny what? In Poland homos have their rights? Yes they do. National minorities have their rights? Sure as hell they do (they even have representation in parliament). What leftards are butthurt about is that Polish govt CARES ABOUT POLES FIRST (not at the cost of others). EU "diversity" means all countries are same bland states with no culture, religion and tradition. True European Diversity is Europe full of DIFFERENT sovereign countries with DIFFERENT religions, culture, traditions and commons. There's NOTHING diverse between London, Paris or Brussels. Maybe just language which is the final obstacle leftard communists from EU will want to deal with.
Ironside 46 | 8,406    
18 Nov 2017  #19

Greece bankrupted itself,

yes by introducing Euro and giving in to Franco-German demands.
There is lesson in this for Poland. Wanna force your crap on Poland you get ready for pain, a lot of pain.

Russia is benefitting the most from the actions of the current government

Hmm, I think Russia is benefiting more from the cordial economical ties between Russia and Germany. Russia is able to maintain their country and modernize their military forces due to their export of ores mainly to Germany.

I am afraid that you are mistaking Poland and Hungary with France and Germany.

Not at all. Poland is more freer country when it comes to express one option than Germany hands down.
Germany embraced progressivism equal communism and they are proud they are not Nazis anymore. Never noticed they have embraced one totalitarian ideology for another.

So majority consisting of the former colonial powers with a totalitarian past are going to force their ideology and rules on a country with a democratically elected legal government in the name of democracy? I bet there is nothing in the EU treaty about war waged on its embers by other members just because they don't like result of an election.

Did you not say yourselves there shouldn't be tyranny of majority? Double standards?
Anyway that EU action looks a lot like a totalitarian super -state in action.
mafketis 16 | 4,840    
18 Nov 2017  #20

Greece bankrupted itself

And the Euro keeps them depressed with no recovery in sight... how many years later?

The normal ways of helping to recover from a severe recession/depression are closed off to them so they have to pretend to be an industrial economy.

Greece never should have been in the Euro (also portugal, italy and spain.... maybe france) but the Euro at present is non-negotiable....
Tacitus - | 158    
18 Nov 2017  #21

@Ironside

yes by introducing Euro and giving in to Franco-German demands.

You are not seriously implying that the Greeks were some kind of victim in this affair? A country that only gained access to the Euro through cheating and which deceived other countries over the true nature of its' debt? A country so ripe of corruption (fakelaki), social fraud (islands full of supposedly blind people) and a civil service that makes even Italy look efficient? A country that asked others, including several poorer ones (like the Baltics) for help and in return insults them on every occasion?

Hmm, I think Russia is benefiting more from the cordial economical ties between Russia and Germany. Russia is able to maintain their country and modernize their military forces due to their export of ores mainly to Germany.

Everybody is benefiting from closer economic ties, since one lesson of the Cold War is that this significantly decreases the danger of armed conflict between both sides. That being it can not be denied that Germany under Merkel has been Russia's most important opponent in Europe. She managed to coordinate a diplomatic response to the Ukraine Crisis. All PiS has achieved so far is isolating Poland in Europe, something that might become very dangerous in a few years.

@mafketis

And the Euro keeps them depressed with no recovery in sight... how many years later?

There is already a small recovery in Greece, one that could have been achieved sooner, if not for the actions of the Tsipras government in 2015. Mind you, the majority of Greeks still wants to keep the Euro.

Greece never should have been in the Euro

On that much. we agree. Too bad that Germany got overruled on this.
Wulkan - | 3,218    
18 Nov 2017  #22

something that might become very dangerous in a few years.

Western Europe is already dangerous you don't need to wait few years.
mafketis 16 | 4,840    
18 Nov 2017  #23

one that could have been achieved sooner, if not for the actions of the Tsipras government in 2015

Yeah, democracy's terrible, it's a good thing for Greeks that Germany managed to overturn the results and there's no more lingering danger of Greeks having a say in the economic policy of their country.....
Tacitus - | 158    
19 Nov 2017  #24

The Greeks are free to choose their own destiny. They had a choice: Keep the Euro and apply austerity, or introduce the Drachma. The problem with the election and the referendum in 2015 was that Tsipras lied to them that they had a third option: Keep the Euro and reject austerity. The obvious flaw was that there was no reason why other governments should agree to this. Remember, Greece asked for their money and help! Not to mention that the people in those countries would have never forgiven their governments if they had given in this blackmail.

Here is a story that gets often overlooked:

Poorer than Greece: the EU countries that reject a new Athens bailout

theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/09/poorer-than-greece-the-eu-countries-that-reject-a-new-athens-bailout
mafketis 16 | 4,840    
19 Nov 2017  #25

The problem with the election and the referendum in 2015 was that Tsipras lied to them

also the hubris of the architects of the Euro was such that leaving it is all but impossible.

Pouring good money or austerity after bad policy (like the Euro) cannot continue forever. It has to be replaced in Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal (at least) and the longer it is put off the more painful the transition.
kondzior 8 | 893    
19 Nov 2017  #26

Today's article.

'More girls, fewer skinheads': Poland's far right wrestles with changing image
theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/more-girls-fewer-skinheads-polands-far-right-wrestles-with-changing-image
tldr; nazis are coming but not really.

the presence of Islamophobic, homophobic, antisemitic and white supremacist

I wonder if those lefists even comprehend what would happen if one put the muslim, jew and homo onto one room; in particular who would slaughter the middle one first if not those evil whites who protect all those groups to to their own detriment.
johnny reb 14 | 2,265    
19 Nov 2017  #27

Poland's far right wrestles with changing image

It sure looks like Polish nationalists made their point in their march in Warsaw.
msn.com/en-ae/news/other/nationalists-disrupt-polish-independence-day/vp-BBF3KR8
johnny reb 14 | 2,265    
19 Nov 2017  #29

Don't think many of us here wouldn't like to do just that.
gumishu 11 | 4,661    
19 Nov 2017  #30

nationalists-disrupt-polish-independence-day/

the title of the article is misleading

washington post articles on the subject contained outright lies and other manipulations, though (not only washington post from what I can gather)




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