Polish People STILL denied US Entry

"have a fun".

I forgot about that one!

awesome.

Very True. Most Americans' roots are English, Scot, Irish, German/Polish. Many immigrants in the 19th century thought to be German were actually Polish.

see what I mean ?you love me.

That's the whole idea. Once the Poles are free to travel to the US, they will leave Poland. And knowing how they don't follow the rules about returning, they will stay here illegally, they will hook up with some Polish illegal company, who will pay them cash so they won't need a SS card and avoid paying taxes. Once they lose their job, they will be living behind a dumpster and drinking themselves to sleep. Sorry, but see too many illegal Poles living this way. It would be a disaster for Poland to allow Poles to travel to the US. I hope they never abolish the visas because that is the only way to control their population.

eh? you are dummy.

wow. you really told him.

If you are a U.S. Citizen, you can contact your Congressman regarding this and support:

S.497
Secure Travel and Counterterrorism Partnership Program Act of 2011

opencongress.org/bill/112-s497/show

and

H.R.959
Secure Travel and Counterterrorism Partnership Program Act of 2011

opencongress.org/bill/112-h959/show

It takes 5 minutes of your time. And it would actually make a difference.

~Kasia

nope, it won't. this bill is dead.

That would only be true because people like to complain and do nothing to actually make a difference. It's not dead yet. If people take 5 minutes, instead of say, watching tv or something else like that, and contact their Congressman and actually speak up, it could happen. But sitting back and complaining where your Congressman cannot hear or be held accountable for ignoring your wishes, well yes, then it won't happen.

"The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones." ― Confucius

lol, bring a dead guy in support of a dead bill...

i'm all in favor of a visa waiver for Poland, but the bill hasn't made it anywhere near a subcommittee, and the only person actively speaking in favor of it is a rep from Chicagoland... if i were running in Chicago, i would ooze support for it, too, but it all doesn't change the fact that jesus himself couldn't resurrect this bill now. perhaps, call it tabled, if it makes you feel better...

popvox.com/bills/us/112/hr959/report#nation

Map of supporters. Note FL and New Mexico oppose it, two states long known for their xenophobia. Just sayin'.

for real?! LOL, your "Map of Supporters" consists of 17 (seventeen) individual votes over the past 10 months... you're arguing against your own point. just sayin'.

You're a pessimist. I respect that. Anyway, people can contact their Congressman if they want to. I added the info above for anyone interested.

Yes, I don't insult people with a real life problems; Impaired mental capabilities for example.

Those immigrants were German nationals of Polish ethnicity.

tell me more about that mistaken ethnicity? thought to be German by whom? the Americans?

The authorities at the US port of entry usually recorded the country of birth/ nationality. Since Poland didn't exist at that time, ethnic Poles entered the country as German nationals (or Russian or Austrian for that matter).

Example of a ship manifest:
berecz.us/tutorial/mno/Fig-2-1.gif

that's pretty interesting. technically, they were German nationals. Or Russian. Certainly the immigration clerks weren't interested in the nuances of border shifts in Europe. And I'm sure the immigrants themselves didn't care much what the form said.

I believe they were just happy to have finally arrived at their destination. National pride was for sure secondary at that moment, although most immigrants kept their traditions.

lol, they'd probably be happy with "Chinese" just to get it over with. and then they they took their suitcases and trunks and proceeded to set up their Czestochowas and Panna Marias...

Exactly. :)

Oh, by the way: if you're interested in this, check out the Ellis Island web site at ellisisland.org

This visa thing was a very sensitive topic for my cousin. I was embarrased. When I asked him if he would come to visit me this summer he replied "Why? Your government won't give me a visa anyway"............He's got his own business and he's 50 years old. I think he'd get one.

This whole VISA thing is weird. Does Obama really need Congressional approval for this visa thingy for Poland? I would think it's a foreign policy issue and reserved for the Secretary of State.

That's how the process works, yes.


Technically that's incorrect. They'll give him a visa if he fits their criteria, just like about 90% of all Polish applicants last year.

way cool, thanks, TO!

blog.heritage.org/2012/01/19/time-to-admit-poland-into-the-visa-waiver-program/

According to the article, in 2010, 152,000 poles came to the USA on a non-immigrant visa (tourist visa) and it also includes that long sought after number, "Overstay rate" which was 2 percent in 2010, or roughly 3,040.

Couldn't you find a better source? Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity - two of the biggest nutjobs in America - are amongst the members of the dubious Heritage Foundation.

Honestly, it's the first attempt I've seen at quantifying the "overstay" percentage so I posted it. People constantly request it on here so there you go.

Fair enough. I'm just a little bit worried that "support" by the Heritage Foundation will be to the disadvantage of Poland rather than to the advantage.

per annum:)
Horrible :D
How many Mexicans crosses the USA border every day? 10 000 ? 30 000?more?

I think that the USA should keep Poland as the only country from the EU excluded from the VWP ! That is a very good lesson for Poles.