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Mikołaj Pawlak accuses teachers of giving hormone drugs to children to change gender.


johnny reb 28 | 4,574
4 Sep 2020 #1
Mikołaj Pawlak claimes sex educators were giving young trans children hormone therapy without the consent of their parents or doctors.
This doesn't surprise me after reading some of the post by teachers here on this forum.
He said, "like for instance in Poznań, they catch a child somewhere unstable, neglected, and give them medicine to change their gender without knowledge and consent of the parents and doctors."

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Ironside 50 | 10,814
4 Sep 2020 #2
Prime Minister Pawlak

Who? Pawlak? If he was a prime minister that was like more than 15 or 20 years ago. I doubt he is in politicks right now.
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #3
Some of the extreme elements of the trans movement are indeed worth calling out and challenging. But Pawlak was just bvllsh1tting.
He needs to cite evidence and not just make up fairytales.

Pawlak? If he was a prime minister that was like more than 15 or 20 years ag

Keep up old man.... different Pawlak

poznan.tvp.pl/49660817/rzecznik-praw-dziecka-w-poznaniu-edukatorzy-seksualni-daja-tabletki-zeby-zmienic-plec-dziecka
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
4 Sep 2020 #4
If he was a prime minister

Thank you for correcting me I.S.
Pawlak is just a minister and not a prime minister ?
Is there a difference ?
(J.R. knows better than to post before having his second cup of coffee in the morning) :-/
The Ombudsman believes that classes in institutions should be conducted by educators with relevant experience and knowledge.
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #5
Pawlak is just a minister and not a prime minister

Pawlak is not a rare name, different people

Waldemar Pawlak - former prime mininster (when Ironside was young and dinosaurs trod the earth)

Mikołaj Pawlak - current spokesman for childrens' rights - PiS non-entity trying to make a career by being stupid and primitive in public (the usual PiS tactic)
Ironside 50 | 10,814
4 Sep 2020 #6
Keep up old man.... different Pawlak

You can call me a senator instead. Mature and wise, some people like you that is about juveniles have not that healthy mentality. Anyway I doubt you are a day younger than me - blossom .

But Pawlak was just bvllsh1tting.

hmm ... do you have evidence to support your words?

Pawlak is just a minister and not a prime minister.

To keep it simple he is a kind of institutional body without being a prat of the gov. lol1
Your welcome!
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #7
do you have evidence to support your words?

I'm not the one who made the claim - that's Pawlak's burden of proof.

You can call me a senator

Hello? Glovo? I'd like a senator delivered to Ironside....
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
4 Sep 2020 #8
Thank you again I.S.

- PiS non-entity trying to make a career by being stupid and primitive

Do you think the NGO's that have infiltrated Poland's schools are stupid and primitive too ?
Poland is blessed to have someone looking out for the welfare and well being of their children no matter what their title is.
Some Polish teachers may be getting nervous about right now for being so out spoken on the issue.
Now since it is Friday, lets see if we all can stay On-Topic for a change.
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #9
Do you think the NGO's that have infiltrated Poland's schools

Which NGOs would those be?

There's no evidence that Pawlak was talking about any real case.... he just made stuff up because he he thought ciemne (dim) PiS supporters would buy it...

Again, I'm very much against parts of the current trans agenda (like puberty blockers and on demand transition) and am willing to discuss that but I try to stay away from stupid bvllsh]t
Ironside 50 | 10,814
4 Sep 2020 #10
Hello? Glovo?

tsk tsk you got it wrong you idiot. there is a proper way to address me - the honorable Ironside! got it?

that's Pawlak's burden of proof.

so he lie according to you, hmm expose his lies then rather than choose a save option of being a twat and pi..ing on his parade just because you don't like his political affiliation.
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #11
so he lie according to you, hmm expose his lies

that's like trying to prove a negative, the burden is on him to prove that this happened (so far.... no evidence)

got it wrong you idiot

flattery will get you everywhere
Ziemowit 13 | 4,182
4 Sep 2020 #12
This Pawlak is as insane as Ironside is and there is really no need to pay any attention to what both of them say.
Lenka 3 | 2,354
4 Sep 2020 #13
Johnny-did American media called him Prime Minister?
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
4 Sep 2020 #14
@lenka
No
The article was about teachers stuffing Polish children with feminine growth hormones.

Which NGOs would those be?

The ones discussed on this forum for starters.
https://polishforums.com/news/poland-demonstrations-defence-democracy-76712/62/#msg1538817

actually, most of us are employed by a UK NGO to spread the word here. I'm a relatively new recruit

Our first member came in 1989 and is still spreading the word about alternative lifestyles.

Prime Minister Pawlak claimes sex educators were giving young trans children hormone therapy without the consent of their parents or doctors.
This doesn't surprise me after reading some of the post by teachers here on this forum.
I think the prosecutor and Poland's minister should be taking a closer look at Pawlak's claims.
Lenka 3 | 2,354
4 Sep 2020 #15
Prime Minister Pawlak

He is not a Priime Minister and never was.

No
The article was about teachers stuffing Polish children with feminine growth hormones.

And you guessed the guy's name and nominated him Prime Minister by yourself?
gumishu 11 | 5,596
4 Sep 2020 #16
He is not a Priime Minister and never was.

Waldemar Pawlak was a prime minister - even two separate times

the first time after the Nocna zmiana

edit: it seems like the talk is about a different Pawlak altogether
mafketis 24 | 8,889
4 Sep 2020 #17
The ones discussed on this forum for starters.

Do you play poker?
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
4 Sep 2020 #18
And you guessed the guy's name and nominated him Prime Minister by yourself?

Sounds more like that is what you are trying to do with your projection.

it seems like the talk is about a different Pawlak altogether

That might help Ms. Obstinate with her dilemma.
I'll ask the Mod to fix it JUST so she can sleep tonight.

Do you play poker?

Only with adults which leaves you out.
NOW FOR THE LOVE OF MARY CAN YOU MORONS STAY ON TOPIC FOR ONCE !
Lenka 3 | 2,354
5 Sep 2020 #19
Sounds more like that is what you are trying to do with your projection.

I have to project since for some reason you refuse to say who rebranded him PM. I asked nicely and nothing. So maybe mocking will help.

NOW FOR THE LOVE OF MARY CAN YOU MORONS STAY ON TOPIC FOR ONCE !

I'm much more interested in who mixed the two Pawlak's then the silly claims .
Ironside 50 | 10,814
5 Sep 2020 #20
Pawlak is just a minister and not a prime minister ?
Is there a difference ?

like between staff and chief of staff
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
5 Sep 2020 #21
So maybe mocking will help.

Naw, that will be ignored too.

I'm much more interested in who mixed the two Pawlak's

We must stay On Topic and not go off on personal irrelevancies to mock people as that constitutes Trolling.
The topic remains, minister Pawlak accusing teachers.
Pawlak corrected the news media.
I never said that it was happening in schools. Not even once. I only pointed out two fundamental issues. Namely, illegal sale of hormonal drugs to children and that is why I have notified the prosecutor," he explained.

He stressed that he has always been firmly against sex educators teaching "how to perform enema before anal sex". Pawlak said that "one organisation in Poznań" was instructing children how to do it during classes, but he did not mentioned the name of this organisation.

Can we assume it was a NGO backed organization ?
Lenka 3 | 2,354
5 Sep 2020 #22
The topic remains, minister Pawlak accusing teachers.

There is no such person so there is no news...
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
5 Sep 2020 #23
You are just to easy. LMAO ......HOOT !
Cargo pants 2 | 641
5 Sep 2020 #24
This doesn't surprise me after reading some of the post by teachers here on this forum

How disgusting to have teachers teaching children such filth, they should be banned from teaching in any school in Poland.
Lenka 3 | 2,354
5 Sep 2020 #25
You are just to easy. LMAO ......HOOT !

Well, better easy than stupid I would say...
Ironside 50 | 10,814
5 Sep 2020 #26
Well, better way than stupid

I would say better save than sorry. would you? A defender of downtrodden like you suddenly going totally dismissive in a possible scenario where children are being abused? tsk tsk has yet another mask fell off ? or you are just that blindly confided that leftie media won't tell a lie?
Lenka 3 | 2,354
5 Sep 2020 #27
There is nothing to dismiss. Get back to me when you, or somebody else for that matter, sees some shred of evidence. Or even knows where, how and who was supposed to do it.
OP johnny reb 28 | 4,574
5 Sep 2020 #28
who was supposed to do it.

You have been told six times now yet you still claim there is no such person.
Here Ms. Trollet, argue with this U.K. News Source as even they call Pawlak a 'minister' of Poland.

pinknews.co.uk/2020/09/03/poland-mikolaj-pawlak-hormones-schools-transgender-pills-fact-checked/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Pinknews+%28Pink+News%29

You going to keep digging your hole deeper or prove your claim otherwise ?
Tuff going when Pam is not here as your defense attorney today ain't it.
Lenka 3 | 2,354
5 Sep 2020 #29
You have been told six times now yet you still claim there is no such person.

Some 'sex educators' without name, organisation or school...yeah, that clears it...

U.K. News Source as even they call Pawlak a 'minister' of Poland.

Can't open the link but I believe you.
Bit better than calling him Prime Minister but still not correct
mafketis 24 | 8,889
5 Sep 2020 #30
Some 'sex educators' without name, organisation or school..

And the prosecutor says there are no such cases (as does the mayor).... so.... party hack from PiS (Prymitywni i Skorumpowani?) lied.... imagine my shock.....


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