Lech Wałęsa: Zelensky insulted me!

"By honoring the bandits from the UPA, the President of Ukraine insulted me and all of our murdered compatriots," wrote Lech Wałęsa on social media. He was referring to a decision by Volodymyr Zelensky, who gave one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine the name "Heroes of the UPA."

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/kontrowersyjna-nazwa-ukrainskiej-jednostki-lech-walesa-grzmi/jm3z77c,79cfc278

Hm... Lech Wałęsa - a pro-Russian shill? Or maybe, just maybe, honouring genocide perpetrators as national heroes is not such a great idea?

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...then he sent them to the front line to attack the russians. Well, that's the problem solved.

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Meanwhile, russian propagandist calls for an oreshnik strike against Rzeszów saying that Poles will do nothing.... (and also calls for attacking Romania, which has just started).

x.com/JayinKyiv/status/2060261946641826008

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"What will Poland's reaction be? What will you do, Psheks?"

Oh, how I would enjoy answering him! Alas, it is unlikely that we will ever meet, and he wouldn't like my answer to his question anyway. :D

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Walesa could publicly honor Roman Dmowski or Grzegorz Braun in return.

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Not Poles, deepsh'ts that some (Torq) vote to power.

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... and the story continues:

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has given one of his country's Armed Forces units the honorary name 'Heroes of the UPA'.

President Karol Nawrocki has already announced that, in response to the Ukrainian president's decision, he wants to revoke Order of the White Eagle from Volodymyr Zelensky."

wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/nawrocki-chce-odebrac-zelenskiemu-order-orla-bialego-jest-pierwsza-reakcja-z-ukrainy/fq7j8p6

What? President Wałęsa and President Nawrocki - borth pro-Russian shills? Or maybe, just maybe, making heroes out of perpetrators of bestial genocide (mostly of women and children) is perhaps not the brightest idea?

The matter was previously commented on in the Sejm by Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

Why did it take everyone so long to notice what I have been saying for years here?

"This decision is troubling from the perspective of our relations and violates our historical sensitivities," the head of government said.

The decision of Volodymyr Zelenskyy was also met with a response from Poland's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

"This decision hurts the memory of the victims of this organization and undermines the dialogue between our nations," ministry spokesperson Maciej Wewiór wrote on social media.

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This was my comment - not Tusk's. I didn't manage to edit the post in time. :)

"On Thursday, a conversation also took place between Deputy Foreign Minister Marcin Bosacki and the Ukrainian ambassador. Vasyl Bodnar received a clear message that what had happened was the best possible gift for Russia, because it strongly discourages many Poles from supporting Ukraine."

Well said, Mr Bosacki - well said indeed! Too bad the previous government wasn't so vocal in expressing Polish interests. Well done KO, well done PM Tusk!

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Please provide sources that Tusk has been saying this for years. I seem to recall it has been Konfa and the right wing of PiS that have highlighted this issue, and Tusk and Sikorski have either downplayed or ignored the matter.


Thanks for pointing this out as there's not a sliver of difference between your europhilia, post-communist anal licking and hatred of polish patriots, -and Tusks.

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Sright wing of PiS.

What they have been saying was that they are servants of Ukrainian nation ("słudzy narodu ukraińskiego"). Konfa was all right - they were saying what Wałęsa and Tusk are saying at the moment. Finally. PiS never had the balls to bring up the issue properly. Also, congratulations to Nawrocki for announcing the revoking of Zelensky's Order Orła Białego - I didn't think he had the balls, I was wrong. :)

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Ehh? I seem to recall that Kaczynski said Ukraine will never get into the EU with Bandera or something along those lines.

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Yeah, once in 2017.

After the war he became strangely more quiet on the matter.

But this is, of course, absolutely correct: would Germany be a part of civilised world's structures and organisations if they still worshipped Waffen-SS, Hitler and other Nazis, making them national heroes? Of course not. In the same way Ukraine can forget the EU if they keep glorifying Waffen-SS Galizien, UPA and other genocide perpetrators.

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Brother Torq - a correction is necessary here....

Some other people have also been saying this, and for much longer than you...

Who will apologize?

Will Mafketis apologize, or Jon - who called me and others "people eternally stuck in the past" or "fanning the flames of fraternal discord"?

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I accept the correction. Indeed I was not the first.


I wouldn't hold my breath.

And the story continues...

Zelensky set the relations with Poland on fire. (...) Ukrainian political elites are aware of this, yet they decided to take this step anyway.

"I had hoped they would recognize that it could significantly hinder Polish politicians in pursuing a pro-Ukrainian foreign policy and in supporting Ukraine's efforts, both in defending itself against Russian aggression and in its process of European integration. It turned out, however, that despite this, President Zelensky made that decision."

wydarzenia.interia.pl/kraj/news-zelenski-podpalil-relacje-z-polska-musial-uznac-ze-moze-sobi,nId,23489568

I wonder if Rzeszów airport and the railway to Lwów are not, by any chance, in urgent need of repairs...

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for what? for opposing an invasion that is destroying the country you say you love and which you still wholeheartedly support?

go elsewhere with your forked tongue trying to stir up trouble (you are basically temu littlefinger) and try to fix your own miserable country

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For denying one of the aims of SMO, namely denazification of Ukraine which - it turns out - was a valid concern?

For not acknowledging that Ukrainian worship of Waffen-SS "heroes" and OUN-B/UPA genocide perpetrators might be a stumbling block on their way to the EU and civilised world in general?

For spitting on the graves of the victims of Banderist ideology by justifying Bandera as "not being present in Volhyn during the genocide"?

I don't know, Maf. You're saying your conscience is clear?

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So you support the invasion now? Going to cheer civilian buildings being targetted?

My first and main problem with this is that public figures are playing this for publicity and political clout. This is the kind of thing that should first be dealt with diplomatically (summon the Ukrainian ambassador to the MFA, send back channel information etc)

Public proclamations should only come only after such efforts have failed.


Does your russophilia spit on the graves of the victims of the holodomor?

Let's dial down the emotions...

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What? 0_0

I am merely saying that the worship of nazi past in Ukraine is a valid concern.


F*ck that. It's been done many times in the past already - they don't give a toss about that, as we could observe. The mass public outrage from all the sides of Polish political scene is exactly what was needed. Finally!


They have failed. Many times. I never thought that Poland would finally rise from our knees and tell the banderists what we think of them. It is happening and I can't say I'm not satisfied.


I wasn't talking about your Ukrophilia. I was talking about very concrete instances of your justifying the genocidal banderist ideology by Bandera's physical absence in Volhyn during the genocide.


Yes, but also let's not quiet our hearts, instincts and intuitions entirely - they are sometimes better advisors than biased media and propaganda on both sides.

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As I was saying...

"As many as 98% of comments on Ukrainian social media support Volodymyr Zelensky's decision to name one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the "Heroes of the UPA," according to an analysis published by Res Futura.".

wiadomosci.wp.pl/analiza-po-skandalu-polska-ukraina-tak-zareagowali-ukraincy-7291165789882592a

... 98% Maf... n-i-n-e-t-y e-i-g-h-t p-e-r-c-e-n-t.

No i to by było, kurwa, tyle w tym temacie. Thank you, Your Honour, I have no further questions.

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I was pointing out a fact, not excusing anything.

How should Ukrainians feel about Armia Krajowa considering that it murdered thousands of Ukrainians?


People in the middle of an existential war are not prone to soul searching about the past.... How do you not know that?

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Are you seriously comparing AK's response or the local retaliations of small self-defense units to the planned organized campaign of regular genocide?


They have been in the war since 2022. The genocide took place in 1940s. They had all the time in the world to do soul searching. At least three generations of Ukrainians could have done a very thorough and profound soul searching in that time. Alas, they haven't.

It doesn't look good, Maf. Doesn't look good at all.

One way or another - they will either stop worshipping nazis and genocidal sicf*cks or they can forget the EU. Luckily, the entire Polish political scene - from left to right - seems to be in accord about that.

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The media can be manipulated, and for them the UPA is their partisans fighting for their freedom. Moreover, Ukrainians are currently very useful to Europe and Poland. You should try to think beyond your horizons. 🤷‍♂️

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The Polish president is on it too:


thegatewaypundit.com/2026/05/president-nawrocki-wants-zelensky-stripped-top-polish-honor/

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No, Analien, I don't think I should.

I don't think I will "think beyond" marches in honour of Waffen-SS Galizien nazi sickf*cks or worshipping the OUN-B/UPA genocide perpetrators. I can "think beyond" many things but not that.

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Well, Torqowica thought so too... and what came of it?

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would you be satisifed if they had killed more?

Croatia got into the EU while still rehabilitating (or at least tolerating the rehabilitation) of the Ustasha, some of the sickest fvkks in WWII (I've heard they even grossed out the nazis).

Serbia still has memorials to Gavrilo Princip....

Latvia still honors the Legionnaires (as enemies of the soviets not as allies of the waffen ss....)


They have a different perspective.... imagine that....

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Seriously? Are you being willfuly obstinate or just trying to annoy me for the sake of it?

It is not about numbers: if someone comes to your house and starts slaughtering your family, you have the right to defend yourself and kill the attackers. Your response cannot be compared to the actions of the murderers, and that's what you did in #20...



Different perspective my arse. The Volhyn Genocide is a historical fact. End of.

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I see it from a different perspective. Which Polish politician has done or said something recently that would earn them a 98% positive rating? If it costs Zelensky to give up some order, he will accept it.

@Alien▲ 0▼ 0

Socratic.... look it up.

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lol

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