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KOD is officially a scam.


Harry
29 May 2017  #31
Dep. Min. Patryk Jaki

You mean the man illegally appointed to the commission by First Secretary Kaczynski in direct violation of the law which First Secretary Kaczynski's minions had just voted in?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
29 May 2017  #32
there's a new campaign

Trotting out the same old, tired slogans for yet another round of pointless ranting, panting, chanting and tarmac pounding. Will the"new" (?!) KOD also try to overthrow the democratically elected good-change government via ULICA, ZAGRANICA I TARGOWICA?
jon357 64 | 14,382
29 May 2017  #33
Trotting out the same old, tired slogans

This is certainly something you do daily, however the Polish movement to defend democracy will be here as long as it is needed.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
29 May 2017  #34
defend democracy

You mean to defend the status-quo trough they believe they're entitled to and want to reclaim. Wishfulness without parallel! It'll be a cold day in hell before the post-commie mafia is ever re-elected. They're already preparing a cell for Gronkiewicz and her minions, After Ambergold gets sorted out another probably for Tusk. After his immunity expires he'll be fair game for prosecution with he full severity of hte law. That undaunted champion of justice big Ziobro will see to it, you mark my word! Tusk is well on hsi way to becoming the next president...of

the SP Football Club (SP stands for State Prison).
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
29 May 2017  #35
Campaign for the Defence

Defence of the feed trough, you mean. That's what Poles call it: Komtiet Obrony Koryta!
jon357 64 | 14,382
29 May 2017  #36
No, that's what you call it. People here in Poland call it the Committee for the Defence of Democracy.
idem - | 135
30 May 2017  #37
or alternative name - Komitet Obrony Darmozjadow :-)
OP NoToForeigners 6 | 975
30 May 2017  #38
I'm a Pole and i confirm we call KOD tools just what Polonius said. Does that mean Jon lies again?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
30 May 2017  #39
Komtiet Obrony Koryta!

It was created to help save the post-commie mafia, euphemistically referred to as
III RP.
Another thing Poles say (although jon wouldn't know because he apparently fratetrnises mainly with other expats): W 1989 r. komuna upadła........na cztery łapy! (In 1989 communism fell........on all four paws!)
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
30 May 2017  #40
answer straight

Never expect a straight answer from a backer of the luckily now long defunct former PO scmaster regime. Look at the way Kopacz lied about the Russians' "exemplary" handling of the Smolensk victims' remains.

Little jon would support Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot if he heard they were PiS-bashers. There's no reasoning with that lot.
bolek_tusk 3 | 278
10 Jan 2019  #41
Merged:

Right wing version of KOD



In Poland is there a right wing version of KOD?
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #42
There are plenty of right wing pressure groups in Poland - so you can join one or if you speak Polish round up a few more tinfoil hat guys and start your own
Spike31 2 | 904
11 Jan 2019  #43
I can sense a deep frustration in your post, cmf neuf :-) Right wing groups in Poland are very often made of a highly intelligent and very educated men like

G. Braun [film director], S. Michalkiewicz [a lawyer], J. R. Nowak [a professor], A. Nowak [professor and historian], R. Ziemkiewicz [a writer] L. Żebrowski [professor and historian]
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #44
Yes there are a few such people, especially in the more religiously inspired groups, but by and large they are made up of single provincial males.
Spike31 2 | 904
11 Jan 2019  #45
That's just an impression which has been fed to you and many others by decades long of a "liberal" mainstream manipulations.

Look how easily it collapses now when we all have access to independent sources of information on the internet and when media and press controlled by a group of few no longer have control over what people have access to and what info they exchange with the others.
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #46
No - its the impression gained from seeing these inadequate guys live in the flesh with their stupid banners and tight t shirts
Rich Mazur 5 | 3,274
11 Jan 2019  #47
but by and large they are made up of single provincial males.

...who, therefore, should be immediately stripped of their right to vote, with said right reserved only for the enlightened progressives best exemplified by you.
I fully endorse and wholeheartedly support the above sentiment.
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #48
They can vote and they can dress up and have their meetings - i never said they could not
Rich Mazur 5 | 3,274
11 Jan 2019  #49
...but the contempt for the "inadequate" guys and their "stupid" banners stays true, valid, and will remain unexplained and supported by facts. Like what exactly those disgusting banners read and why that makes said banners "stupid".

Yes, I know, I can do my own research. So why should the burden of justifying the above mentioned adjectives rest on you enlightened shoulders.
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #50
Of course - just as they can say and wear what they like then I can think whatever like about them. I know that in Russia free thought is not a given but that's the way it is here.

If a banner is stupid to me that is enough for me to form an opinion.
bolek_tusk 3 | 278
11 Jan 2019  #51
There are plenty of right wing pressure groups in Poland

As I asked in my question, is there a right wing equivalent of KOD? 'plenty' doesn't really tell me anything....

I'm not talking about groups of football hooligans or extremists, but groups who might include people like Rafał Ziemkiewicz.
Rich Mazur 5 | 3,274
11 Jan 2019  #52
If a banner is stupid to me that is enough for me to form an opinion.

Having duly acknowledged your superiority on the progressive scale, I would respectfully ask you to share with the rest of us - the uneducated and the unwashed trailer trash of America - what specifically was displayed on those contemptible banners that was compelling enough to bring it up here.
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #53
KOD was formed to protect the constitution against proposed supreme court reforms. it is rather a moderate movement.

If there is a right wing equivalent then the closest is probably the old people and religious right who marched every Friday to the Presidential Palace in support of a crackpot theory about Smolensk.

There are few people who would explicitly march in the streets in favour of firing judges and appointing Ziobro as chief prosecutor.
bolek_tusk 3 | 278
11 Jan 2019  #54
KOD was formed to protect corrupt judges, former SB members and other people who had their snouts in the trough before PiS came to power.

What I could never understand is how the likes of Rzepliński and Gersdorf could take part in such a movement since judges are not allowed to be politically active.
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #55
Yes, whatever - so maybe put an ad on a few local message boards and you can find some people to march on the street with you about this outrage.
Rich Mazur 5 | 3,274
11 Jan 2019  #56
So, what about those "stupid" banners?
cms neuf - | 815
11 Jan 2019  #57
Just google - banery marsz - and take your pick Rich
Rich Mazur 5 | 3,274
11 Jan 2019  #58
You, liberals, are so predictable. If you were a stock market, I would be a gadzillionaire.
So, now, it is my duty to supply the evidence for your claims. Only in the loony land where facts and numbers don't matter. Just the feeeelings.
Spike31 2 | 904
12 Jan 2019  #59
google - banery marsz - and take your pick Rich



God - Honour - Fatherland

That's truly something that any "self-respecting" left-winger should despise
Lyzko 20 | 6,291
12 Jan 2019  #60
Oh, I don't know about that there, Spike!

I frankly believe that left-wingers aren't necessarily against these verities, but rather against the often arbitrary use of them as a sort of moral battering ram, usually meant to kill all opposing dialogue, as if only the right matters and to blazes with everybody else:-)

A true democracy, not one in Trumpland, involved honest debate and discussion, a fair exchange of ideas. It's as Voltaire once stated, "I disagree with everything you've said, but I will defend until my death your right to say it! Or was that Patrick Henry, I never could remember.


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