The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives 
 
 
User: Guest

Home / News  % width posts: 628

10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!


celinski 31 | 1,258
6 Dec 2007 #91
I was not clear, I was going to prior to first partition. Carol

Where can I found out more info on this Leszcynski who wrote this brief article?.

I googled and in .11 seconds came up with/use his whole name.

1 - 10 of about 164,000 for Kazimierz Leszczynski .

Carol

Here is a site with:
ENGLISH SUMMARY
of the work by
Wladyslaw Siemaszko and Ewa Siemaszko

GENOCIDE
COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN NATIONALISTS
ON THE POLISH POPULATION OF VOLHYNIA
DURING WORLD WAR II (1939-1945)

"genocide committed against the Polish population during those years. Poles were subjected to genocide - in various forms and on varying scales by the Germans, the Soviets, and the Ukrainians."

Please stop saying this was a "holocaust" and forget the whole story "Our forgotten Polish"

genocide007.webpark.pl/przedmowa_english.htm

Carol
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Dec 2007 #92
give it back or compensate.

Excuse me... why should I "compensate" you or other people, who haven't even lived here ?

if something is stolen property, it can't then be bought or sold legitimately?

Acording to the law existing then, they weren't stolen, they were legally taken away.
celinski 31 | 1,258
6 Dec 2007 #93
they weren't stolen, they were legally taken away.

What you think our families took a nice little trip to a concentration camp in Siberia? Then because we were so refreshed we decided to build another army on Russian soil or beat feet to So. Africa to some Polish refugee camp for ha ha's.

Poland as rightful owners of the eastern lands gave and sold the property to Polish soilders WW1. My Grandfather built the houses on his property. It was his horse's and cattle he purchased. Carol
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Dec 2007 #94
I repeat: acording to the law existing then, they were legally taken away, so "techniacally" It wasn't a crime that's why current owners are the legal owners and in case of any compensation in vast majority of cases that would have to be cash - taken away from Polish taxpayers of course and I don't see a reason why we should pay anyone from UK or USA.
inkrakow
6 Dec 2007 #95
cording to the law existing then, they were legally taken away, so "techniacally" It wasn't a crime

Well, the fact that a small number of people have been successful in reclaiming property, and the fact that there is an established legal process for doing this suggests that even the Polish government recognises that what happened was not legal and/or right. So you were right to put "technically" in quote marks.

I also really don't understand why you think it make a difference where someone lives? Are you saying that only people born in Poland should be able to own property? And that they should have to give it back (to whom?) if they emigrate? It would be one way of solving the housing crisis I guess - all those empty houses/farms/flats left behind by the 2 million or so who are living it up in the UK...

To be honest, I can completely understand why it was impossible to even think about paying compensation up until this point in time, but now that Poland is becoming wealthier (NB thanks mainly to the massive EU investment in infrastructure and competitiveness) I think it's time to start thinking about how this can be done because the issue isn't going to go away. Every day I walk past a number of buildings here in Kazimierz that are crumbling because the owners can't be found and the city doesn't want to offend anyone by acting - it seems such a waste.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Dec 2007 #96
a small number of people have been successful in reclaiming property

In some cases courts make such decisions, sometimes not.

but now that Poland is becoming wealthier

... Poles, whose parents rebuilt this country (and now often have to look for food in trashes) and who working hard makes this country wealthier (influence of "EU investments" is minimal) should now "compensate" those "100% Polish" from UK, USA and elswhere ? You know what ? First let Americans give back all their land to the real owners and you British pay compensations to Negros and others, who had been terrorized and exterminated by you for centries and then I will think about "compensating" you, OK ?

2 million or so who are living it up in the UK...

200 million...
isthatu 3 | 1,164
6 Dec 2007 #97
I can find no background on him...also, he repeats the 'gas chamber' story...as far as I have read, there was never any evidence of gas chambers used for the purpose of mass murder by the Germans.

LMAO,what the heck have you been reading then? No gas chambers indead!!!!!!!
Coming back and claiming something after so long,ludecrous,totaly bonkers.

British pay compensations to Negros and others, who had been terrorized and exterminated by you for centries

Eh,where do I start with that? er,Britain led the way in outlawing slavery while you guys still had indentured serfs working the slachtas lands. Our war in the Sudan was to stop the slave trade being carried out by blacks against blacks,the Boar war largley came about because the british in SA disapproved of the Affrikaneers treatments of blacks etc etc..........ho hum,just keep trotting out the same old same old........

Quoting: inkrakow
2 million or so who are living it up in the UK...

200 million...

eh,the entire UK population is under 70 million,or are you just taking the Pee out of him G'?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Dec 2007 #98
You had colonies until mid 20th centuries.

eh,the entire UK population is under 70 million,or are you just taking the Pee out of him G'?

Her.
slick77 - | 127
6 Dec 2007 #99
Our war in the Sudan was to stop the slave trade being carried out by blacks against blacks,the Boar war largley came about because the british in SA disapproved of the Affrikaneers treatments of blacks etc etc..........ho hum,just keep trotting out the same old same old........

Why didn't the british government take the above facts into account and decided to pay blacks that compensation?
sana 2 | 48
6 Dec 2007 #100
Before the war Polish magnats and Jewish were the reachest in Poland they own buildings casstles and USED the rest of population to work as a labour for not more then just soup....Germans started the war and commit the bigest crime in the world against humans. Engalnd, USA France all new what is going on before milions of people were dying every day in gas chambers(someone should do the trip to Aushwizt). Comunism influensed by Russia took Poland after war. Polish population was in slavery before the war, during the war and after...Who is guilty for all the lost properties, Germans? Other countries which didnt react earlier? Russia? Poland? All of them I gues.
isthatu 3 | 1,164
6 Dec 2007 #101
You had colonies until mid 20th centuries.

no doubt about it,but,if we had been so busy slaughtering them all do you think they would mostly still be in the Commenwealth.Sorry,as usual most of the killing done was black on black so rascism didnt really come into it.

Why didn't the british government take the above facts into account and decided to pay blacks that compensation?

Im sorry, what ?What compensation? look again at the post you quoted from.. Ill spell it out slowly for you.....T h e B R I T I S H invaded the Sudan in order to STOP the arab blacks enslaving the non arab/muslim blacks. Just who should "we" pay compensation to,the Slave owners? As for SA( south africa in case you didnt get it) considering that SA has been a soverigin state,run by Affricaneers ,since the turn of the last centruy,and the only time rascist laws or seggregation were used was during that time,or prior in Boar states ,what does britain owe exactly to the people of south africa,if anything the Dutch owe them because the boars came from holland.....
celinski 31 | 1,258
6 Dec 2007 #102
Justice after confiscation
Restitution of Communal and Private Property in Central and Eastern Europe
Stuart Eizenstat
slick77 - | 127
6 Dec 2007 #103
Im sorry, what ?What compensation?

Obviously you do not know the history of your own country or you want deliberately mislead more ignorant users of this forum.

Even the british church is considering paying reparations for slavery:

guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2043060,00.html

Are you trying to tell us that the brits have never been involved in slave trade?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510
6 Dec 2007 #104
yeah... think there was a chap called william wilberforce who had something to do with it
OP WAKEUPPOLAND 1 | 44
7 Dec 2007 #105
No one here wants your lands and propertys, we have enouge space here in Israel.

Samros, with all due respect, how do you really expect us too believe this when we see how your government has occupied palestinian territories and bulldozed down more and more innocent family houses to create more sapce for your illegal settlers.
celinski 31 | 1,258
7 Dec 2007 #106
Interestingly, we have not heard of Germans suing the Russians in the Strasbourg court, only the Poles. Must Poland continue to pay for Hitler's war?

ruf.rice.edu/~sarmatia/407/272our%20take.html
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389
7 Dec 2007 #107
Interestingly, we have not heard of Germans suing the Russians in the Strasbourg court, only the Poles. Must Poland continue to pay for Hitler’s war?

This is because Germany depends on Russia for natural gas & oil, and is heavily investing
in the Baltic pipeline project with them.
celinski 31 | 1,258
7 Dec 2007 #108
Russia for natural gas & oil

I think it's about time Russia paid vs. Poland.
OP WAKEUPPOLAND 1 | 44
7 Dec 2007 #109
This is because Germany depends on Russia for natural gas & oil, and is heavily investingin the Baltic pipeline project with them.

I think its because Putin will not entertain any such requests, where us the teletubbies twins and cronies we have in government are all part of the holocaust propaganda machine.
celinski 31 | 1,258
7 Dec 2007 #110
teletubbies twins and cronies

If you think they were bad just wait, At least they were not afraid of Russia and spoke up. From what I hear of Poland's new President, he wants to make Russian relations close. I hope for our sake he doesn't mean, kiss but-. Carol
isthatu 3 | 1,164
7 Dec 2007 #111
I hope for our sake he doesn't mean, kiss but-. Carol

eh, your an american in america,rather kiss butt than behave as your leaders do ,god ,it must be wonderfull living in a country that has never been bombed or invaded since about 1812 and who shares a border with such dangerous feinds as the Cannuks and the Mexicans........

You say butt kissing,the rest of the world says diplomacy and tact.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
7 Dec 2007 #112
If you think they were bad just wait, At least they were not afraid of Russia and spoke up. From what I hear of Poland's new President, he wants to make Russian relations close.

True. Except that this is new PM. The President is still Kacz. twin.
celinski 31 | 1,258
7 Dec 2007 #113
Plus USA will have a new President soon. Maybe even a woman, Hillary is holding her own.

Carol

been bombed or invaded since about 1812

Sept 11th.
Canadianguy - | 4
8 Dec 2007 #115
the jews originated in the steppes of russia........... google khazar empire , also visit iamthewitness.com
Puzzler 9 | 1,089
8 Dec 2007 #116
From what I hear of Poland's new President, he wants to make Russian relations close

- So the Poles have just picked their new President, Carol? Who would he be?
:)

Canadianguy

- You're no 'Canadian guy,' pal, but a German creep. Not only - traditionally - Judophobic, but also, traditionally, Polonophobic (I shall not forget your hateful ranting in connection with Mr Dziekanski's death).

One of the Neo-Nazi German immigrants to Canada of Zundel's ilk, right?

'Canadianguy,' yeah, right.
:)
celinski 31 | 1,258
8 Dec 2007 #117
new President

Prime minister, Carol

Not a bombing

If you say so, I call it bombing with planes. Most bobs could not have done what the planes were capable of, not to mention even if they missed the targets they had the passengers on board. Carol
isthatu 3 | 1,164
9 Dec 2007 #118
Quoting: celinski
Sept 11th.

Not a bombing.

No,a terrorist attack,not an act of war or an occupation by another power.
Sorry,but one days tragedy cannot compare say to the Blitz on London or Warsaw or even the 30 odd years that british women and kids were getting blown apart by (irish american sponsoered) IRA atrocities.
celinski 31 | 1,258
9 Dec 2007 #119
act of war

It was if it was bombing or not? I did not say act of war. Carol
isthatu 3 | 1,164
9 Dec 2007 #120
Well,not to quibble,but to be an act of war you need a nation behind it,a war normally takes at least two opposing countries fighting it out for a considerable time(or one in the case,obviously,of a civil war) where as,Im afraid,the "balance sheet would show that around 3 thousand people died on that one day,a tragedy as I say,but sinse then hundreds of thousands of innocents have died while bush tries to fight shadows. No this spurious "war on terror" no matter how many times the phrase is repeated is not a war.In any case,it better not be,as if it is,the Warcrimes commited by bush and blair in waging agressive war against countries in no way connected to 11/9 by rights should see them in the Hague facing possible Hanging (if you go on the Nurenburg record as setting legal precident). But what would I know,I only spent my baby years avoiding bombings in London that those nice romantic IRA boyos were scattering around like confetti,and then the 90s when ,still sponsered by the Irish Americans,and practicaly adored by hollyweird,they were blowing shops and railways and little kiddies in the street to bits.

It was terrorism ,plain and simple,one day of fear and countless false alarms since cannot be equated to the european experiance of the 20th century.

Home / News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!
Discussion is closed.