"We will not hesitate to shoot Kaczyński dead" - KOD Facebook page

It's absolutely hilarious. The attempted smear tactic by PiS on Kijowski managed to turn a predicted turnout of around 10,000 to over 50,000, and managed to attract a significant turnout from many older people that had been there, done that and don't want to see it again.


The terror of PiS right now is hilarious - you can see that their plan has backfired dramatically.

Assuming much without a single evidence to support this baseless claim delph to the T !


You have these knack to use absolutely inappropriate langue to describe something that exist only in your imagination, you are from now on known as Muse bombastic.

Since when have PiS ever been known for allowing independent, non-partisan investigations into anyone? Remember, Duda even pardoned Kamiński without letting justice prevail!

PO's hate industry has largely been based on online agitators deriding, discrediting and smearing PiS in the most vile of terms. In of volume and ferocity PiS' anti-PO rhetoric by comparison was a Sunday school picnic. Somehow no-one ever heard you protesting against barbarous Platformer slander. Guess there's no serious discussing anything with a fanatical dyed-in-the-wool chauvinist of the Delphian ilk!.

Why are you still referring to PO?

It's pretty clear that KOD is a non-partisan popular front against PiS, so all these references to PO sound like the average PiS supporter is unable to comprehend the facts.

Maybe it's time for Poland A and B to separate into two countries.

B can become a Putin Protectorate, with its socialism, Putin-ism and religion.

A can become the Godless,capalistic EU loving liberal hell hole that B hates so much.

It's what Poles want, isn't it?

PO may have first launched it back in 2005 but indeed others have jumped on the bandwagon.
PiS-bashing and the PiS bugbear designed to intimidate voters has also been used by Miller's ex-commies, fearful that PiS will eventually hold them to account for their PRL-era criees.

PO fear that their ties to foreign big business, scams and lack of reforms will be exposed.
Petru does not want it to be known that his party is sponsiored by Western bankers.
PiS stupidly excluded the PSL from the Sejm presidium (no PSL vice-marshal) creating an unnecessary enemy on the right; thsoe fewe votes mgith coem in handy when pro-libertine legislation is to be defeated.bemy

Cleverly persuasive albeit groundless propaganda suggesting that PiS = fascism, dictatorship, media censorship and the Spanish Inquisition has pulled the wool over the eyes of even non-partisan intellectuals, professors and journalists who should be able to think for themselves.

It's a genuine grass-roots movement in every sense.

Oh, the irony.

So who are these guys ?




EUnuchs are already coming up with Kosovo 2.0 ? I thought It would take several more years.

A grass-roots movement, working for the good of Poland

Siemoniak, Neumann, Trzaskalski, Kalisz, Kośiniak-Kamysz ?

They are establishment to the core!
Siemoniak, - former minister of the defense and currently in the Parliament
Neumann, - chairman of the PO party in the Parliament in which he served for years.

Trzaskalski,- former eurodeputy, minister in the PO government, currently in the Parliament.

Kalisz,- "a former member of the Democratic Left Alliance party,he was a member of the communist Party from 1978 until its dissolution in 1990, former minister of Internal Affairs, Kalisz was elected to the Parliament in 2001 and in 2005 campaigning from the Democratic Left Alliance list"

Kośiniak-Kamysz -newly minced leader of PSL, former minister in the PO government, currently in the Parliament.

Petru - "He has worked as an economist for the World Bank, PricewaterhouseCoopers and several Polish banks" From 90' served as an assistant to several MPs (lobbing) In 2015, Petru founded a liberal political party ?Modern?. Considered by many as a representative of banksters in the Polish Parliament, a millionaire, in the Parliament."

Indeed grass roots of establishment lol!

So tell us, Ironside, what is Piotrowicz?

One more "defender of democracy" :))))

So all those thousands of people of all ages and social classes who turned out are "establishment to the core"?

How long before Ironside brings out the PiS line that we were all paid to be there? :D

Let see what dictionary says about a grass roots movement - the common or ordinary people, especially as contrasted with the leadership or elite of a political party, social organization, etc.; the rank and file.

In fact it is opposite of what you claiming to be a grass roots movement. You lied about that why anybody should trust your words?

What more those are the very same people who are not only part of an establishment. Not those who only a month ago have been ruling Poland as ministers or whatnot? They lost a democratic elections and went mad and whipping up hysteria and bringing their voters out to the streets? While they are active MP's? they are clowns.

These are exactly the common and ordinary people attending along with others. As I said, it's a broad non-party popular front - the fact that politicians might be among them doesn't mean anything.


Why aren't you calling Jarek a clown, then?

Anyway, Ironside, just give it up.

Someone actually did suggest here that participants were paid - must have been a pretty huge bill!

They're coming out with every excuse, aren't they?

It's not the first time -- it's already a PO traditon. They also went berserk when they lost in 2005. Those are called "poor losers".

They are indeed. I thought that Kaczyński might take a step back to evaluate the situation, but he's gone on yet another classic Jarosław rant today that will just annoy people even further.

Either way, further huge demonstrations are inevitable.

That isn't what a grass roots movement is all about. In every organization or movement there are a common and ordinary people, followers, but that fact doesn't transform them into a grass roots movement. Stop talking BS.

Perhaps hoping to deflect from his minions hacking the Facebook page of a grass roots activist but more likely due to the embarrassment to him caused by yesterday's massively popular demonstration and the poor showing by his ridiculous counter-demonstration today.

I wonder if many will show up for the vigil by his house.

Most probably. The right-wing media is already behaving like Ironside, suggesting that the leaders of KOD should be prosecuted and so on.

Personally, I hope they do try.

They deserve it.
Questioning results of an democratic election? MP's taking people to the streets, abusing they immunity and their position? Well, that show shows their true colors, only the right party (meaning them)can win, then it is democracy when somebody else wins than out of the sudden democracy is in danger.

What a totalitarian undemocratic boorish attitude?
I see that our PF usual suspects are rightly called a totalitarian neo-Marxists as they fully support a totalitarian wannbe coup. They are afraid of the God so much there is not low they wouldn't stoop to.

:)

Keep going, Ironside.


You're being ironic, right? For a start - Kaczyński openly did this for years.


What was Kaczyński and others doing on the streets for the last few years, then?


Is this a reference to how PiS have been on the streets for years?


You're definitely referring to PiS now.


Poor Ironside. All he can do is abuse the opposition of doing exactly what his party did for years.

A lot of BS delph, you are going down the drain together with your adopted friends and for one I will be glad to see you gone.

We're going nowhere. This is our country.

Your recent subversive activities and involvement with anti-government conspirators may give you a much needed adrenalin rush, but it may also throw your "our country" claim into question. When locals rebel and protest, that is normsa. But when an outsider throws in with plotters and helps them stir up trouble...well the "foreign subversive" tag is hardly a positive descriptive!