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German legal discrimination against Polish speakers


johnny reb 17 | 3,419    
25 Oct 2018  #91
and the father is trying to succeed by pulling the racism card.

Another example of how the Polish are ahead of their times.
Lyzko 19 | 5,777    
25 Oct 2018  #92
How can the German government legally discriminate against Polish speakers, Turkish speakers, any non-German speakers for that matter?
There's some incomplete information here.
delphiandomine 86 | 17,392    
25 Oct 2018  #93
Because they don't. Johnny is just bumping up an old thread to stir things up, nothing more.
johnny reb 17 | 3,419    
25 Oct 2018  #94
There's some incomplete information here.

I think he made it very clear myself.

So the Polish father called the German a 'racist' before the word racist was even cool.
Poland back eight years ago was already hip to that game and way ahead of the rest of the E.U.'s Political Correctness.
That was my point.
Lyzko 19 | 5,777    
25 Oct 2018  #95
Thanks again, Delph!

Smelled something fishy right from the start of this thread.
Guess I was right on...for a change.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,684    
  25 Oct 2018  #96
There's some incomplete information here.

There is more info: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DacbbxBzM14J: abendblatt.de/hamburg/polizeimeldungen/article106540403/Wojciech-Pomorski-und-sein-Kampf-gegen-die-Stadt-Hamburg.html
johnny reb 17 | 3,419    
25 Oct 2018  #97
Guess I was right on...for a change.

Looks like both of us win a box of cracker Jacks for being right.
Tacitus 2 | 818    
25 Oct 2018  #98
Sadly the article is hidden behind a paywall for me.
Lyzko 19 | 5,777    
  25 Oct 2018  #99
Finally had a chance to ck. out the link.

Boy oh' boy, this guy's really in a mess! He sees the whole thing as a free speech issue, but the locals don't agree.

What do you think, Johnny?

@Tacitus, same with me! I had to access the site/link through Google because I don't have a facebook acc.t. I wasn't able to

log into www. hamburgerabendblatt. de directly.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,684    
  25 Oct 2018  #100
Sadly the article is hidden behind a paywall for me.

Just use the long link, and on the first link that appears use the cached version of Google...
(Das kleine grüne Dreieck vor "Translate this page")

It is an old one, from 2011
johnny reb 17 | 3,419    
25 Oct 2018  #101
What do you think, Johnny?

I wasn't able to log in either. :-(
Lyzko 19 | 5,777    
25 Oct 2018  #103
Just follow B.B's prompt instructions and you should be just fine. If a born-again technojerk like yours truly can get it, you can too, no worries:-)
Spike31 2 | 699    
  26 Oct 2018  #104
Germans in Poland have a minority rights and also granted presence in Polish Parliament

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_minority_in_Poland

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Minority_Electoral_Committee

Poles in Germany don't have minority status and Poles are present in Germany in large numbers since the end of XVIII century

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Germany
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,684    
  26 Oct 2018  #105
Because Germans had been once natives in these territories (like Breslau..like Danzig)....as the borders had been changed after WWII and the lands were ethnically cleansed and resettled with Eastern Poles. That's why the surving Gemans have there minority status.

Poles had always been immigrants to Germany, never been natives...

That's why Sorbs and Danish have minority rights in Germany too and Poles don't. Otherwise Turks who came as Gastarbeiter during the 60s for example could claim minority rights too...
Crow 147 | 7,398    
  26 Oct 2018  #106
That's why Sorbs and Danish have minority rights in Germany too and Poles don't.

To compare Sorbs to Danish is first class scandal. Danish and Germans were/are those who occupied land of Sorbs. Plus, Poles are also natives to Germany.

And its shame that are Lusatian Serbs (Sorbs) seen as minority on their own land, within Germany.

But it will be changed in changing Europe and world. If Germany recognize rights of Shquiptars (Albanians) to secede from Serbia and take native Serbian lands with them, what you think how will be respected German (occupational) right to prevent separation of Lusatia from Germany? One word, - won`t. Germany sealed its own fate.
Spike31 2 | 699    
  26 Oct 2018  #107
@Bratwurst Boy

"German nationals of Polish ethnicity in Upper Silesia had judicial status as a national minority[8] under the auspices of the League of Nations (likewise the Poles of German ethnicity in the Polish Silesian Voivodeship). After the rise of the Nazis, all Polish activities were systematically constrained, since mid-1937 also in Upper Silesia. However, in August 1939, the leadership of the Polish community was arrested and interned in the Nazi concentration camps of Sachsenhausen and Buchenwald. On 7 September 1939, shortly after the outbreak of World War II, the Nazi government of the 3rd Reich stripped the Polish community in Germany of its minority status. This was formally confirmed by Hermann Göring's decree of 27 February 1940."

So basically modern Germany follows Hitler's Nazi Law
Tacitus 2 | 818    
  26 Oct 2018  #108
Did Polish people have minority rights in what is nowadays Germany? No, because they were immigrants there (e.g in the Ruhr Valley). As to why Germany did not repeal Göhrings decree, take a guess.

Perhaps because the affected area no longer belongs to Germany?
Crow 147 | 7,398    
  26 Oct 2018  #109
Poles not even minority in Germany? Funny. Really. Independent Poland will ruin German schemes. Not without price, that for sure. But price will be even bigger if official Poland continue like this, with this impotent policy.
delphiandomine 86 | 17,392    
  26 Oct 2018  #110
Poles in Germany don't have minority status

Because they're not from there. They're economic migrants, nothing more.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,157    
26 Oct 2018  #111
Germans should stop trying to lecture the rest of Europe on how to behave.....you are the last people in Europe that Europeans should trust.....

And still you try to dominate Europe!!
No,the heinous crimes committed by Germans should not be forgotten yet.....it's still too early....
TheOther 5 | 3,709    
26 Oct 2018  #113
There are 82 million Germans out there and you are telling us that none of them should be trusted? Paranoid much?

the heinous crimes committed by Germans should not be forgotten

No, they shouldn't, but that's a very slippery slope you're going down, my friend. Deliberately starving 4 million Bengalis to death during WW2, hunting the Aboriginals on Tasmania to extinction, or running the Boer concentration camps aren't particularly civilized either. But it's always easier to point the finger at others, right?
Ironside 47 | 9,343    
26 Oct 2018  #114
Because Germans had been once natives in these territories (

Nah, that is stretching the truth. It about 100 years, if a group of people have been settled in a certain area they have the right to got all the rights to be a recognized minority. The Polish people had that right in Germany before the war - Mr Hitler took that away from them ( with property and money)and now lovely, friendly, democratic Germany doesn't want to give it back. Darn aren't all that just a fake and feigned. Well why don't you go FY. (not you BB my pal- your gov and its policy)
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,684    
  26 Oct 2018  #115
But that's about Silesia Iron (you are my pal too btw.), Silesia is no territory of modern Germany anymore, there is no minority rights to give out by the german gov.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,157    
26 Oct 2018  #116
@The Other

Are you seriously trying to compare the crimes of The British Empire(And yes,I call them crimes),to Nazi Germany???
You need a reality check mate.....
Ironside 47 | 9,343    
26 Oct 2018  #117
But that's about Silesia Iron

Nah, it wasn't about Silesia, it was about Berlin, Ruhrgebiet and other places.
TheOther 5 | 3,709    
26 Oct 2018  #118
Are you seriously trying to compare the crimes

No, but it's always good to remember your own history before throwing stones in a glasshouse. I know quite a few folks back home who haven't forgotten Gallipoli either. Just saying.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,157    
26 Oct 2018  #119
@The Other

Fair enough,point taken.
But there is still no comparison.
Tacitus 2 | 818    
26 Oct 2018  #120
The Polish people had that right in Germany before the war

Yes in Upper Silesia, where there was an historical justification for doing so. There is no historical justification for granting them those rights nowadays. The Polish people in Upper Silesia (and now the German people living there) found themselves living under "foreign" rule due to shifting borders. The Polish people who lived in the Ruhr Valley lived there (and continue to live) there because they made the conscious decision to emigrate.

nd now lovely, friendly, democratic Germany doesn't want to give it back.

What is Germany supposed to give back? All the property confiscated lies in modern-day Poland.


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